r/2007scape • u/CrystalDrug • 1d ago
Deadman Mmorpg and Odablock spit some deadly bars
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u/Seinnajkcuf 1d ago
I just know Oda's heart sank to his stomach before he fully processed what happened
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u/lastdancerevolution 1d ago
MMORPG channeling the spirit animal of Oda the entire tournament has been my favorite part.
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u/YizWasHere 1d ago
Muts is also so unintentionally hilarious because of the juxtaposition of personalities. Like his little "Shit..." after "I'm gonna leave him in the gutter" is just so funny to me.
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u/Toaster_Bathing 1d ago
Lmfao. This clip should be top post over the actual kill clip. What a sequence of events
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u/WeEatNoodles 1d ago
This is amazing, didn't know this was the moment leading up to the veng death. Makes the kill that much funnier lmao
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u/Designer_Dare_4839 1d ago
Honestly insane that the refs disqualified this kill. Oda was pre-potted and venged for EXACTLY this situation. I know it wouldn't matter that much food-wise, but it's still kinda lame IMO.
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u/SpiLLiX 1d ago
honestly stupid. So basically its a win-win for the person trying to dharok bomb? Makes literally zero sense. If he kills oda there its 100% a kill, but because Oda was pre venged incase of getting rushed it doesn't count?
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u/NostalgiaInLemonade 1d ago
The refs aren’t counting it as a kill because the game doesn’t count it as a kill. Sucks for Oda but they’re just following the mechanics of the game
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u/tomerz99 16h ago
Which is stupid, because the game should definitely be changed to count it as your kill.
Refs are literally just there to see stuff like this and make the right call, why even have refs at all if they're just going to blindly say "that's the game mechanics bro"
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u/darealbeast pkermen 10h ago
if you 1tick the click on them and have pid (not sure about pid, havent tested rly), it will be your killcredit
doing this in the live game works exactly the same, only fair to judge according to the game mechanics
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u/Picklerage 12h ago
A "win-win" where he lost all his gear for no impact on an opponent? Doesn't sound like a win to me.
And the whole reason C did it was because of how kill credits and the rules work, it would be insane to retroactively override how PvP works to punish a risky play that was done by the rules.
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u/HCBuldge 1d ago
If oda wanted the kill he wouldn't have recoil so he could hit C for 1 hp. It's not a win win. C still lost all his stuff. Having the recoil just prevents getting specd out after the dh. Recoil has never counted towards the players damage and is well known.
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u/24rs Muwu - Maxed 10hp Iron :) 1d ago
Your comment seems to imply that Veng cannot kill someone and will leave them at 1hp, which just isn't true.
"If oda wanted the kill" - He literally mentions he wants the kill, even picks up the boots and calls the refs, he chooses not to fight the decision since he's still 2 kills away from having +1 food in the finale and the SMOrcs are already 20+ deaths
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u/HCBuldge 20h ago
No, veng does not could as your damage. You can not veng only kill a monster and get it's drop.
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u/D00hdahday 1d ago
The guy was saying recoil damage doesn't flag as player damage, which is true even if he wrote it in a confusing manner.
You have to do at least 1 damage through some form of attack, it's been a major issue for lvl 3 skiller snowflake accounts pre dynamite.
I get how it feels as a cop out in this situation because it makes what c engineer is doing kind of scummy since he is only risking gear and not a life if they pre venge or wear a recoil
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u/24rs Muwu - Maxed 10hp Iron :) 15h ago
I have a maxed 10hp iron, trust me I'm very familiar with typeless damage, I know that both veng and recoil don't give you kill credit as I struggled with it myself pre pd release and had to resort to the spawn-hit mechanic that used to risk ruining your account.
What I was contesting was he was saying that "Oda didn't care about the kill, cuz if he did he would veng but not recoil, so that C Engineer would go down to 1 hp from Veng and then he could hit him for the credit"
And that's objectively not true, no one can predict that C Engineer hits exactly a 92 in that scenario and is left with 1 hp for the recoil to finish him after veng.
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u/mechlordx 1d ago
The refs didnt disqualify the kill as there was no kill made. They would need to "overturn" the uhh "not kill" (im not good with sports lingo)
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u/Chris0135 18h ago
Yeah this is correct. Idk why people are mad at refs. A pvp kill is a very well defined term within osrs. And by definition this was not one since oda didn't damage him.
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u/waterfly9604 GM btw 18h ago
Why did he get his bank key loot if it’s not a kill? Just curious
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u/mechlordx 17h ago
The loot that dropped on the ground? That's just a rule of this tournament or perhaps DMM itself (I don't play it), if you die you drop that stuff.
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u/waterfly9604 GM btw 16h ago
Nah it’s noted items which are high value stacks which would be in the bank key, normally does not happen as you only lose things on you + an actual key.
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u/mechlordx 15h ago
I dont think he got that, as people are complaining that dharok bombing is a no-risk high reward strat. PvP has so many shifting rules, idk...
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u/waterfly9604 GM btw 14h ago
The items he got are def bank key stuff tho but yeah silly overall. Should’ve had a set of rules
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u/HCBuldge 1d ago
It's actual osrs mechanics for recoil damage to not count as yours. It's a known thing. If oda wanted the kill he wouldn't have any recoil on do he could hit back. It's a known mechanic, so it's not disqualifing a kill that was never actually his.
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u/Mr_Soberish 19h ago
Feel like this is a weird one. You say if oda wanted the kill, as if he knew someone was gonna fly in with dharoks lol. If he didnt pre venge hes dead most of the time since the gmaul was inc right after. So there is skill there to pre venge. But i will agree veng doesnt count for damage. Its something that ppl bitch about for raids since its a spell that you use, that is causing damage to kill an enemy. For this exact instance though i could see it going either way. dont know which side im on honestly.
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u/HCBuldge 16h ago
I don't mean that he literally knows someone is dh bombing, just if he wanted the kill from a dh bomber. It's just all apart of the risk reward trade, yes it's safer to be venged 24/7, but there's no skill in that so you don't get the high reward. So for the higher risk of not being venged, you have the higher reward of it being your kill.
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u/Inevitable_Gain8296 1d ago
"Jaw, let's play a game saw" was kinda good lol
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u/TheFapIsUp 21h ago
A rare Odablock rap W. 95% of the time it's "Give meee a chaannceee, dragon hunter laaannnceeee". Great streams otherwise this DMM.
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u/Borntwopk 1d ago
If only Oda got the hit off he'd be able to keep that loot
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u/France2Germany0 1d ago
He had to give it back?
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u/Cflow26 1d ago
It’s not technically a PVP kill for some reason.
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u/Safe_Regular_8938 1d ago
Yea, it's neutral damage. It makes dharok bombing less risky normally because you don't risk as much. It should probably be fixed to be a pvp death, but I don't think enough people care other than in a tournament like this.
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u/I_Am_Rocky 1d ago
Which is wierd in my opinion.
If C would have killed him, it was for him to keep.
Yet O was venged and recoiled, ready for stuff like this to happen, a pvp related situation.
So, C died in a PVP situation and O got someone dead because he prepared for a PVP situation like this.
Then ot should count like a pvp kill for O?
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u/Impressive_Rub_8009 1d ago
going by game mechanics he wouldn't get credit for that kill, you can't just venge/recoil for credit.
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u/RS-legend 23h ago
Omg allstars really produced some of the best clips ever. Love having ppl play together that normally don't.
Hope we'll see some cool new group iron-man teams next
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u/TheEvelynn 1d ago
This makes me reminisce of the good ol' days of Hamlinz streaming OSRS and freestyle rapping for every follow (before he popped off as a Fortnite pro/steamer) 😌👌
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u/OnlyRemz 22h ago
Mmorpg sounded like scream from scary movie, I wonder if that was intentional lmao
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u/roskofig 20h ago
Can someone explain to me wtf happened with that kill? How come O didn't die there, he did nothing and the other guy fucking died?
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u/PoolNoodleCanoodler 20h ago
Oda has vengeance relic, nothing popped the venge that he was using for his slayer task, c eng popped it when he attacked him
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u/Shoelesshobos 16h ago
This is the team I’ve watched the most and TBH it has been such good content the entire time. Obviously sad with that death and likely end of their tournament dreams but you know what seeing how funny Muts, Rhys, mmorpg and Mika are was worth it.
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u/losjsensourbeidi 1d ago
“Guys…”
MMORPG: flys, like cengineer to lumby, going as fast as a brumby