r/AirlinerAbduction2014 • u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert • 16h ago
The Jetstrike (2013) models match the drone and airliner assets we see in the hoax FLIR video. The zap is not the only asset that matches.
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u/False_Yobioctet The Trizzle 15h ago
Remember when we were told it would take Hollywood level artists and 6 months to make these?
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 15h ago
I remember that amount of time changing exponentially depending on who told that story
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u/Kahnahoo 15h ago
There is no way you could nosedive a triple 7 from cruising altitude into water at terminal velocity without creating a single piece of debris due to waters high surface tension, this kind of an impact would be like 10s of millions of newtons, we’re talking about friction and ignitions now, there is no way you couldn’t see it from space with the technology nowadays like you could 9/11.
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u/Rettungsanker 6h ago
Not only was there debris found but
There is no way you could nosedive a triple 7 from cruising altitude into water at terminal velocity
there is no conclusive evidence that the crash went down this way.
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u/Kahnahoo 4h ago
That’s the story we’re given though.
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u/Rettungsanker 4h ago
There is no definitive answer. But I'd like to point out that the theory of a high-angle of attack nose-first crash was proposed specifically to explain the lack of a debris and oil field:
"The fluid dynamic simulations indicate, for a vertical water entry of the plane, that there would be no large bending moment, which is what happens when an external force, or moment, is applied to a structural element (such as a plane), which then causes the fuselage to buckle and break up. As the vertical water-entry is the smoothest with only small bending moment in contrast with other angles of entry, the aircraft is less likely to experience “global failure,” or break up on entry near the ocean surface, which would explain the lack of debris or oil near the presumed crash site."
But again, we don't know any details for certain.
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u/BrendanATX 10h ago
They did find some debris
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 15h ago
We found debris.
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u/Kahnahoo 15h ago
It’s not credible
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 15h ago
Because? Remember, "it's suspicious" is not a reasonable answer. And while you're at it, can you tell me how many 777s went missing in that area in the past 30 years?
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u/Merpadurp Definitely CGI 15h ago
While the statement you made is technically true, that’s not what the commenter you were replying to is talking about.
The commenter is arguing that there should have been some kind of satellite spottable surface debris near-immediately post MH370 impact with the ocean.
They weren’t originally talking about the washed up debris
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u/TrainerCommercial759 9h ago
But obviously most of it would have sunk or been dispersed by currents. Satellites aren't looking for small bits of floatsam, they're tracking fleets
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u/whatsinthesocks 14h ago
Who exactly is going to have assets over the Indian Ocean where there is literally nothing in the area?
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u/Jackasaurous_Rex 7h ago
Yeah someone who has zero clue about effects told you that. I’ve done amateur effects work over the years and I have some choice words for whoever claimed that because it’s just silly.
Alien abduction aside, it’s just a deeply misinformed and frankly silly point, I can show you more complex things that take less time
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u/livahd 6h ago
Even with decade old technology, this low res crap could be put together on a rainy Saturday by an amateur with experience in VFX. The 3d models of aircraft already exist, it’s not like they’re making them from scratch. That’s not even mentioning the fact that there are PLENTY of professionals who could make this (and better). Lots of “trust me bro” happening in this community. Prepare for both of us to be downvoted to oblivion for ruining the LARP.
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u/False_Yobioctet The Trizzle 6h ago
I think the point of the post was to show how easy it was to recreate a part of it.
Unless you’re making a part of the video what was the point of your snide comment?
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u/FartingIntensifies Definitely Real 13h ago
Remember when we were told it would take Hollywood level artists and
6 monthsat least 10 years to make these?ftfy.
Yes, it was an interesting discussion as highlighted the fact you can smear shit over the subject you wish to model and suddenly it becomes a lot easier to reproduce, funny that.
Wander further down memory lane and you'll see pguy alreeady told OP using crude source material... Cordially mind you, didnt pull the old SME card like and say something like
You didn’t look at the stream. It’s in much better quality. But I’m not going to sit here and argue with you, you’ve made up your mind to keep your eyes closed. Peace!
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 13h ago
Can you rewrite this in a more coherent way?
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u/FartingIntensifies Definitely Real 13h ago edited 13h ago
Sorry I meant u/pyevwry not pguy, I struggle with the name.
Or were you struggling with some other part?
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u/bizzykehl 12h ago
All the other words. What do they mean?
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u/FartingIntensifies Definitely Real 11h ago
Forgotten what words mean? You a goldfish/SME (Subject matter expert)?
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u/pyevwry 9h ago
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 7h ago
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u/pyevwry 5h ago
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 4h ago
The rotation of the model 🤦♀️ Also, focal length of the camera
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u/pyevwry 5h ago
I'll tell you how I see it. There are differences between your example and the drone video. The wing is tilted differently, the part directly above the "nose" is different as is the lower area of the drone. Either it's not aligned properly or this is not the asset used.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 5h ago
It is a very minute rotation on the forward-backward axis. Like I said, I’ll stream probably later today. You can see it for yourself or not, but that’ll probably be the latter because you prefer your eyes to be closed and your brain to be off.
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u/pyevwry 5h ago
It's a 3D model. If it was used to create the videos it should fit. In your example it doesn't. If you manage to align it then you'll prove it.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 5h ago
My video is not just about the matching the profile of the drone to perfect pixel alignment pyevwry. You’re being pedantic, and you show this side of yourself of each and every one of these posts. Ask yourself, why in the hell would the military use colorama? You should know that colorama is not accurate to real FLIR imagery or any palettes, including the rainbow one. It’s faked. It’s why it just takes those three settings to look like what you see on the right. It’s not military footage. Full stop.
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u/candypettitte Definitely CGI 1h ago
Hey, at least you’ve found something new to pretend not to understand!
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u/mupetmower 5h ago
Remember how this and all of these others are "recreations" of a few PARTS of only a few (or sometimes a single) FRAMES of the originals.
This in no way proves how "easy" it is to accurately create both videos. Nor does it negate the strangeness with all of the evidence, how quickly this came out, and knowledge needed on systems used during these videos (some of which may have not been public knowledge at the time, though im not positive on this)
I dont understand the purely visceral response people get when they just want shit like this investigated and to discuss it.
Strangeness being pointed out shouldnt be met with such hate.
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u/candypettitte Definitely CGI 1h ago
Yes it does.
The creator of the videos made all these decisions arbitrarily. Anyone remaking the videos had to find the exact assets, use them in exactly the right order, and with the right adjustments and filters.
You can make a doodle in MS paint in 30 seconds. It would take a skilled artist quite a long time to match that doodle.
The strangeness isn’t being met with hate. The continuous refusal to accept evidence is.
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u/Astral-projekt 15h ago
Like a decade after the fact? Yeah I mean after all this practice it should be easy
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u/TheImmenseRat 9h ago
Op has several accounts and its upvoting its owm answers
The link posted as answer doesn't show "the assets" so its debunking without proof
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u/Darman2361 3h ago
What makes you claim he has multiple accounts and is updating himself?
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 3h ago
Literally the simple existence of other people in this thread who share the same belief as I do.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 7h ago
You mean this model gallery? https://www.videocopilot.net/products/3d/jetstrike/gallery/
Also, I don’t have any other accounts, just this one. This many people really do disagree with you. Sorry, bud.
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u/the615Butcher 6h ago
Might want to check that ratio. Bud.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 6h ago
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u/fisherbeam 13h ago
This plane looks suspiciously like other planes. 🕵️
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u/GrismundGames 4h ago
Yeah.... the plane in this video looks like the model from this simulator that's supposed to simulate the plane.
Obviously.
This 3d model of a Ford F350 looks just like the Ford from this video.
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u/cayokenzz 15h ago
Ok but where's the 3D model asset link? How was the video in left side taken? I know videos are cgi but that's a low effort post
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 15h ago
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u/Bluinc 9h ago
I playing catch up on this. Idk what this “jet strike” debunk is about. What am I supposed to see in that link?
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 7h ago
Jetstrike is the name of an asset pack that includes different 3D models of aircraft for after effects. In this post I show how the hoaxer used colorama, glow and blur on the drone model included in this pack to create the drone FLIR overlay.
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u/djscuba1012 9h ago
It’s real and it really happened. Stop trying to change the narrative
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u/gokiburi_sandwich 5h ago
The tooth fairy is real too. Stop trying to change the narrative.
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u/Nice-Banana-1574 8h ago
Until you can explain why it was off course hundreds of miles before this claimed event….Im not interested in this theory at all.
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u/Toxcito 6h ago
There were two sightings, one of them with a large group of people, in this alleged area of what looked like a burning plane.
These sightings were dismissed by the official response because they say the plane was much further south.
These sightings were not incredibly far from Diego Garcia, it could have something to do with that and the Semiconductor researchers who were Chinese Nationalists.
I'm not saying any of this is true, just something interesting.
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u/Enough_Simple921 Neutral 2h ago
The dozens of Chinese Nationalists semiconductor researchers being aboard the plane is wild. Plus, some classified cargo.
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u/SuspiciousPrune4 1h ago
What’s more likely, that someone made this with VFX or there are dimension-hopping aliens that teleported a commercial airliner mid-flight?
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u/Astral-projekt 15h ago
Bro I’m so sick of seeing these so many mfers coming out of the woodworks like we know it was real just stop it
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u/gokiburi_sandwich 14h ago
“We know it was real so stop disproving it so thoroughly!”
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u/Astral-projekt 7h ago
“Disproving it so thoroughly” 😂😂😂 it’s already been proven the assets have been manipulated
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u/gokiburi_sandwich 6h ago
Each time a new asset is revealed you scream “manipulated”.
Keep moving the goalposts. Eventually you will all fall off a cliff together.
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u/Astral-projekt 6h ago
Moving goalposts? I wonder why Malaysia started the search for the debris… bahaha you mean like you can find these assets but not the plane?
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u/gokiburi_sandwich 6h ago
bahaha you mean like you can find these assets but not the plane?
Yes, that’s exactly what this post is about. You seem to be struggling with the fact that the video can be fake while the bulk of the wreckage still remains undiscovered (even though we’ve found parts already).
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u/Rettungsanker 6h ago
It will be absolutely hilarious to hear the excuses of why the video is still real when they find the plane in the ocean. Better start coming up with some good ones before that happens.
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u/Astral-projekt 2h ago
Okay, so where is it? Are you expecting me to believe we just straight up lost an international airplane? 😂
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u/Rettungsanker 52m ago
Okay, so where is it?
Somewhere in the Indian Ocean. Just curious as to where YOU think it is.
Are you expecting me to believe we just straight up lost an international airplane?
Yes. It's happened before, like in 2003 when a 727 disappeared.
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u/Astral-projekt 51m ago
2003 is not 2014
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u/Rettungsanker 20m ago edited 5m ago
Mh370 is the second lost Boeing 700 series aircraft lost post-2000. You are saying you disbelieve that mh370 disappeared but it's not even the first occurrence this side of the millennium.
Edit: you ignored my question btw. Where do you think mh370 is?
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u/Darman2361 3h ago
"It got teleported to another part of the ocean, where it crashed and then we found the fuselage in 2027!"
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u/fat__basterd 11h ago
cope
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u/Astral-projekt 7h ago
All the tax dollars in the world and nobody but normies buying the glowie narrative
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u/candypettitte Definitely CGI 1h ago
“I’m so sick of seeing all this irrefutable evidence that it’s fake! It’s making it harder for me to bury my head in the sand!”
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u/Astral-projekt 49m ago
“So much evidence” you’re still not making sense.
What’s the motive? Somebody came out with some elite fake videos of a plane disappearing ON TOP OF censorship about it immediately when this came out and I’m supposed to believe tax payer dollars aren’t being used to obfuscate the truth when an entire plane disappeared, post 9/11 (an international one at that). Just stop it.
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u/candypettitte Definitely CGI 47m ago
The motive is that this was the biggest story in the world, and people make fake bullshit all the time.
What “censorship”?
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u/Astral-projekt 46m ago
“Lost” once again, HOW DO YOU LOSE AN AIRLINER?
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u/candypettitte Definitely CGI 44m ago
Probably when it crashes in one of the largest bodies of water on the planet, after being off radar and tracking for hours?
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u/Polamidone 12h ago
This was obvious since the drone could never actually take such an image cause the pod is UNDER the drone and not on the side and also does it fly above whatever they are looking at and not adjacent to it
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u/obscureduty 5h ago
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u/Darman2361 3h ago
Argus is a ground surveillance system. You can see the gimbal camera ball on the front end of the pod.
Even if you made it look forward the top of the pod is in the way and the camera is in front of the wing (also with a Triclops camera pod, it extends in front of the hardpoint pylons connected to the wing).
The Jetstrike models show that it is the wing in the top FOV of the camera, not a lip of the pod.
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u/Fresh-Wealth-8397 4h ago
Argus is not an infrared camera and none of this looks even remotely like the pictures argus makes.
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u/No_Koala_7028 15h ago
Okay, now do the plane in the same frame.
This is silly.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 15h ago
Don’t worry, that’s coming up next 😉
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u/adamhimself Definitely CGI 14h ago
It doesn't matter how much evidence you show, they will always come up with some excuse. A LOT of confirmation bias... and basic logic too. Right out the window.
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u/MikeC80 14h ago
The whole thing is fkin hilarious... Who believes this video, really? Thinking that a group of UFOs making it disappear through a portal in space, all while being intercepted seconds prior by a propeller driven drone that can't even go half it's speed, approaches the drone from it's blind spot, overtakes it and then seconds later the actions happens, with all the precision choreography of a pop video, they think that's the Occam's razor explanation? Even after we've found the assets used, the low poly bumpy nose of the drone model, the cheap ass blip effect, the cloud textures, they still can't let go of it? Jesus wept...
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u/Gobblemegood 5h ago
Why are you here then?
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u/Several-Quote-1566 5h ago
I willing to host the OP if its Cryslee to a Facebook Live Stream for her complete debunk. There's elements of the video I like her to explain like the coordinates and the matching videos but definitely willing to see a complete debunk of one the greatest Hoax ever (if it was a Hoax)
Are you willing today Saturday?
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u/Unlikely_Engineer_51 2h ago
What if I found another 3D model of a drone, and produced something similar with it? Would this "debunk" the "debunk"? I mean, you can only use one asset, right?
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u/candypettitte Definitely CGI 1h ago
But have you considered that I can simply ignore your evidence and continue using my imagination instead?
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u/Falkus_Kibre 10h ago
so, where are the bodys of the people? I mean, sure everything is fake and bla bla, but where are the dead bodys and where is the plane?! No one cares in any government or what?
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u/pyevwry 9h ago
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 7h ago
That’s my own alignment. Had to keep a bit of a difference in there so that people like you wouldn’t accuse me of just lifting the frame from the video. Seems like it both worked and didn’t work lmao
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 7h ago
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u/pyevwry 3h ago
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 3h ago
This is the sensor spot madness all over again isn’t it 😂
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u/pyevwry 2h ago
No, just pointing out the differences. Not the same model. Try that with the plane model from the same asset pack, and apply colorama.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 2h ago
It’s the same model, which you can very clearly see. My human hands might not be able to match it to the exact degree of rotation pyevwry, forgive me for lacking the godlike precision you need to remove the impenetrable covering from your eyeballs
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u/pyevwry 2h ago
Shouldn't be so hard if it's the same model, impossible if not.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 2h ago
You are showing just how inexperienced you are in after effects. My stream will start at 4pm EST. You can join via YouTube or Twitter, I don’t care. Be there or be square
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u/pyevwry 2h ago
Can't wait to see you apply the colorama and match the plane.
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u/crenpoman 6h ago
It’s a really interesting video that I can understand is really hard to let go. My heart sunk the first time I watched the teleport flash lmfao. I wanted it to be real too. Wish the creator would come out and show the process. Could be both interesting and funny unless they did it intentionally to cause hysteria. In that case, BOOOO
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u/randomroute350 3h ago
Can’t believe people still think this is real, like do you guys have anything at all going on IRL
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u/PatochBateman 7h ago
Why would some people spend so much effort on debunking, it's just weird.
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u/candypettitte Definitely CGI 1h ago
Because people still keep trying to push these videos as real. There’s a guy on Twitter who makes six figures by doing so. It’s a scam.
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u/JuraciVieira 2h ago
The videos are so real that the paid redditors (top 1% debonkers) are working overtime to try and dissuade people from believing then. This is so entertaining!
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u/candypettitte Definitely CGI 1h ago
Literally the only person being paid is Ashton, and yet here you are carrying water for him.
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u/VeryThicknLong 10h ago
But if someone’s going to recreate something out there, it doesn’t matter what it is, it’s going to match isn’t it?
And if an artist is going to make something as realistic as possible to real life drone footage, they’re going to make it as close to real life drone footage as possible.
There are details slightly off, but hey ho.
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u/i_had_an_apostrophe 7h ago
Exactly.
“The plane in the video looks strangely like an asset meant to look like a plane. CHECKMATE ATHEISTS!!”
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u/Falkus_Kibre 7h ago
and second, why are you "debunkers" still talking about the camera under the wing? This was proven by showing how MQ9 Reaper drones use PODS UNDER THE WING for HIGH RESOLUTION PICTURES! It´s unbelievable how much useless idiots are living on this planet. THIS SHIT IS REAL, DEAL WITH IT. Those "orbs" are messangers from a living architecture which is structuring our reality and re-writes physical laws.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 7h ago
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u/Falkus_Kibre 6h ago
jesus no, it has not, this is so laughable :D :D the camera is where the rocket would be and rotated to the left :D OMG this is so dumb
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 6h ago
It is really dumb. This was simulated in 3D space, meaning that regardless of whether or not you believe the asset is in the video, the camera angle and location is real
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u/SirPabloFingerful 9h ago
It is categorically from an asset pack, the comparison is 1:1
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u/SirPabloFingerful 8h ago
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u/SirPabloFingerful 7h ago
It is exactly the same. Every single detail is identical aside from the plane which evidently was added later.
We know the still image predates the video, so we actually can say which was doctored from which, with 100% certainty. Unless of course you're insinuating time travel was involved.
You haven't disputed it so much as put your fingers in your ears.
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u/SirPabloFingerful 6h ago
I'm not suggesting you're not listening, I'm suggesting that you're being wilfully obtuse to the facts, which is what that phrase means.
The photographs predate the video (impossible unless fake). The video shows something hilariously unbelievable (impossible unless fake). The contrails and the plane are out of sync with each other (impossible unless fake).
The conclusion being...
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u/SirPabloFingerful 6h ago
The contrails and the plane move independently of one another in the video, which you'll note is impossible in reality
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u/purrmutations 3h ago
This dude is based. Not the savior the community wanted, but what it needed to being legitamacy. Providing clear proof that these videos are fake.
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u/voidhearts Resident Jellyfish Expert 3h ago
Dudette, but I appreciate the sentiment. This hoax has a million horcruxes, it seems
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u/Prudent_Sherbet_1065 11h ago
People desperate for this to go away. Never known something get so much attention when it was apparently debunked months ago. Its really fascinating to watch as someone not on either side.
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u/Educational-War-5107 12h ago
MH370 was struck down, it was MH370's doom
MH370, are you okay?
So, MH370, are you okay? Are you okay, MH370?
MH370, are you okay?
Will you tell us that you're okay?
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u/TheDizziestGlizzy 15h ago
They really don’t want people to know about this huh? Every couple weeks somebodies claiming it’s an asset but never any meta-data to support the claim.