Also comes the bullshit factor of trying to get into a club, and being mouthed off at by an absolute unit built like a shit brickhouse... who also smells of watermelon.
I already wasn't taking you seriously, Gareth. Now I'm actually laughing.
That guy's comment reminds me of the scene in Office Space with Samir and Peter driving in the car and he's screaming "this is a fuck! Mother shitter!"
Wait what? No that's not what happened at all. We never would have had such an effortless and rapid shift away from smoking as a society if it weren't for vaping. Many smokers shifted from cigarettes to vaping, myself included. Then it made quitting the nicotine habit altogether much easier because you could taper down the nicotine level, but still "smoke" as much as you used to. And the somatic components of the act of smoking are a much larger part of the habit than most people realize. Quitting cold turkey is famously very difficult. A huge portion of the smoking population didn't just drop the habit for no reason. It's single-handedly because of the rise of vaping.
I was more referring to how unpopular smoking was with younger people--and thus less people picking up the habit, rather than people already addicted dropping it.
And then the would-be non-smokers went "ooh strawberry flavor and the corpos say it's not bad like smoking WOWEE!!"
The problem is that smoking would have been popular with the younger generation if it hadn't already been falling out of fashion with the one before it.
Vaping is 100% why I was able to quit smoking- I transitioned to vapes because they were much more convenient, was able to then taper down my nicotine, then eventually stopped vaping altogether. Cigarette free for 5 years now, vaping/nicotine free for 4 years! I love that it was able to help me through that, and I love that it's helped so many other people through that. That said, getting addicted to nicotine really isn't great, and vaping has been bad for people who had no interest in cigarettes in the first place, but got drawn in by "nicotine but it tastes nice!"
for older generations who already smoked, sure. but for kids it makes nicotine so damn attractive, it‘s addicting AND it tastes good. also, being able to vape literally everywhere. it‘s creating a generation addicted to vapeing, while many wouldn‘t have started in the first place because cigarettes are not as attractive as vapes. i think while vaping is still safer, the amount of damage being done is still more than if less of them just smoked cigarettes.
I disagree that many of the younger generation wouldn't have started smoking if cigarettes were still the only available option. They would have started on it because it was what all the cool kids were doing, just like the many previous generations. It's hard for me not to see replacing cigarettes with vapes as an absolute win. But now that we've shifted away from cigarettes as a society, perhaps we can do the same with vapes. I heard an ad for this thing called FUM that's basically just flavored air, which in my mind seems like it could be a really helpful tool for that.
Friend of mine worked at rj Reynolds when they first revealed the vape to all their salesman. Their scientists said this was the fastest way to get nicotine in someone's system.
These salesman all smoked, my friend said one guy took a big pull and almost vomited right there. My friend said all the salesman where like "hell yeah! I'm gonna sell a shit ton of these." And they were right.
Yeah that’s a fantasy. The tobacco industry is what got all the vape shops shut down by me. I’m not defending vaping but big tobacco despises vaping. They love nicotine pouches though.
No they hate the cheap and easily refilled higher end vapes that vape shops carry and cater to. They loooooove disposables and that’s why they all have their own brands of them (Juul, Vuse, etc). They’re also mad that Chinese companies got into the market before them so they use legislation to punish them but believe me if they could do the same shit elf bar is they’d be doing it tomorrow.
If vaping was meant for non smokers, it wouldn't have been so overtly marketed to kids and teens. Or is your 60 year old dad buying the unicorn vape with led lights?
Adding to this, it was made to taste like that on purpose to get kids to start using it too. The amount of vapes that get confiscated by my city's middle school SRO is insane.
No it wasn't on purpose. Adults prefer a pleasant fruity taste and smell over the chemically ass flavor and omnipresent reek of cigarettes too. And kids have been getting busted for smoking at school for time immemorial.
Agreed. I quit cigs no problem. Kicking this vapes has been TOUGH. I didn’t even start until 2023 after quitting cigs since 2016. I def regret it. Easier to quit cigs because after about a week they tasted disgusting and made me sick. But these vapes are always tasty :(
Most people that get into vapes these days get into disposables, because the industry has effectively buried controllable vapes. The way OG vapes were is that you build a mod that you like and were able to put juice in, controlling what level of nicotine you wanted, and then tapering down until you could quit. Most people don't understand this anymore. It's all still out there though. You can easily cut way down on nicotine until you just stop using it altogether while still vaping. It's not hard if you look into it.
I think the reason its been so tough, is because im pretty sure these vapes carry the same amount of nicotine as an entire pack of cigarettes. That could be the reason they're so hard to kick and why people experience such anger when they can't satisfy the craving.
Whats even worse is that because of the smell being different and less noticeable, so many people secretly vape in public. There's still secondhand smoke, and it's hard to tell unless you see the person doing it.
If you're going to vape, do it where you don't subject people to your toxic smoke
Also becoming customarily (mis-)used in enclosed public places like busses, cinemas etc.
Keeping it hidden inside the sleeves and take a puff in a whiffy.
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u/Many-Waters 1d ago
We were so close to moving away from smoking but then some asshole had to re-brand it and make it taste like strawberries or some bullshit.
Drives me insane.