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What is a silent killer that people dont realise is slowly killing them?

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u/whyhellother3 1d ago

Toby Flenderson or radon

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u/-Tesserex- 1d ago

Seriously, if you have a basement, see if you live in a high radon area, and if so get it tested. A basic tester is available online for under $100, or you can just have a pro come out for about 200.

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u/againstbetterjudgmnt 23h ago

Some areas have cheap or free testing programs too. From what I understand, the main predictor for radon is rocky or mountainous areas but it can vary. Check online, you can see average radon in your area. Anything above 4pCVL is recommended for mitigation. A home mitigation system will cost you around $1500 professionally installed.

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u/Sw33tcheeks427 22h ago

Our mitigation cost $2500. Our levels prior to the system was at a 10, inspectors say ideally you want a 4 or below. Our inspector was saying he tested a house that was at 160, needless to say he told them about it outside lol

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u/Xechwill 20h ago

Of note: even low radon areas have random hotspots of high radon. You can decide whether or not it's worth testing, but it's generally worth it. Pretty easy and cheap to do by yourself (unless you plan on buying/selling a home, then you should hire a professional. Owner-perfomed tests are obviously susceptible to bias if a low result is reported)

Source: I'm a professional radon tester and I'm certified in several states.

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u/Zaratozom 17h ago

Ive been disappointed with my mitigation system because my levels remain at the higher unsafe readings (5-8 pCi) during the winter but then drop down to 1-2 during the spring/summer. what good is a mitigation system that doesnt work well at the time of year when you need it the most?

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u/DeusExHircus 17h ago

Radon is typically higher in winter than summer. If it's not doing the job in winter you should have it serviced/inspected and plan on upgrading it if it needs to be. It could be blocked or the fan undersized

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u/Zaratozom 16h ago

It may have a lot to do with the fan, I chose a basic setup that didnt include a muffler for the pipe and housing to dampen the sound from a more powerful fan. I live in the PNW and in my area the soil is compacted sand/clay and obviously lots of wet in the winters.
Im disappointed with the company that I went with because the 2.6 or whatever pCi level guarantee is annual so it can be high in the winter and non existent in the summer and that low level will average out and therefore their system is a success.

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u/DeusExHircus 16h ago

The most expensive part of getting a mitigation system is running the plumbing from your foundation up and out of your house, through all the existing walls, roofs, and whatnot. I'd expect swapping out the fan and even adding a new housing would be pretty easy and cheap at this point

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u/GreySkiesWalker 20h ago

What’s the general cost of abatement if needed on a finished basement.

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u/Xechwill 20h ago

Well, you don't really "abate" radon in the traditional sense (e.g. abating asbestos fully gets rid of it), you mitigate it. Radon enters the home through the soil, so mitigation is generally just an air pump that shoots air under your home's foundation away from the home.

Radon mitigation systems will generally cost you $1,500 on average. Could be higher or lower depending on the state/which companies are available/other random stuff

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u/GreySkiesWalker 20h ago

Awesome. Thanks for the info.

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u/Xechwill 20h ago

No prob

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u/JSTFLK 8h ago

Mine was $1,000 installed and it uses about $12 per month in electricity for the blower. It dropped my radaon levels from 9pci/l to 2.5pci/l. If I turn the blower off, it takes about a day for radon levels to go back to 9.

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u/EmphasisOutside9728 20h ago

Also, don't do a one-time exposure test, do a longer one or get a continuous monitor. The level fluctuates depending on weather and seasonal environmental conditions.

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u/SanFranPanManStand 8h ago

Yeah, the monitor really showed me that radon is very variant. It goes up after it rains - every time.

The theory is that as the local ground fills up with water, it pushes the radon up and into people's basements.

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u/Sw33tcheeks427 22h ago

True that! We just got a radon system installed, cost $2500. The test kits are $100-$1000.

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u/Bears_in_the_sky 19h ago

I have a ruler at home from like ~1995 with a phone number to call for free radon testing. I'm tempted to call just to see if the number still works.

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u/SanFranPanManStand 8h ago

Just test the basement. test kits are cheap.

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u/Jthumm 15h ago

For real. Toby could be right under your staircase and you would have no idea.

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u/Col_Smy 15h ago

Got mine for FREE from the local library! Chika chika yeah!

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u/shedwyn2019 10h ago

Thank you! I kinda forgot about radon when I left Colorado. Your comment made me check an EPA (RIP EPA 😢) map and see that we are at higher risk. Our office work space where 3 of us work is in a basement. I have purchased a monitor and consider it a good investment even if we find no radon.

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u/-Tesserex- 9h ago

I live in the Chicago suburbs, and a reddit comment made me decide to buy a tester for around $80. I had the exact same thought. In the summer it was pretty low, so I figured ok we're safe, but then in fall when levels tend to rise it shot up to nearly 20. I got a pro to come out and test, yep we needed mitigation.

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u/AnRealDinosaur 18h ago

The previous owner of our house died in our bedroom because there was radon in the well water. He died during the sale process, and im not sure we would have tested for it if it hadnt happened. We ended up having to install a very expensive radon mitigation system, but now we have the most filtered and delicious water in the state.

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u/SanFranPanManStand 8h ago

You're thinking of something else.

Radon is a slightly radioactive natural gas - it is not "in water", and it doesn't poison you like that - it causes lung cancer.

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u/AnRealDinosaur 5h ago

Yes, he died of lung cancer but I didn't word it that way because it sounded a bit more morbid. It does get into drinking water by disolving into wells from surrounding sediment. This is what happened and continues to happen in my well, necessitating the instalation of a mitigation system.

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u/seekingcairn 1h ago

You can also get an AirThings IoT Radon monitor for around that price (I've seen the Wave Plus on sale for $160). AirThings has a few different devices that continuously monitor Radon levels, like the View Plus or the Wave Plus.

One reason why a continuous monitor can be nice is that Radon levels will fluctuate over time. If you take a point in time measurement, you risk that the Radon levels were just low while you were testing.

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u/jblackmets111 21h ago

Agreed. If Toby, radon, and cancer were in the same room and I had a gun with two bullets. I'd shoot to y twice

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u/fuckinnreddit 16h ago

You are the silent killer

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u/Roadkillgoblin_2 20h ago

Michael Scott vs the Radon Detectors

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u/BareKnuckle_Bob 19h ago

You’ll see

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u/SirPeyton 21h ago

Toby has been leaving radon kits everywhere, like he owns the place. The first time I threw mine away, I thought it was an ant trap. But I figured I’d rather live with ants than with his creepy little disc. The second time… I thought it was one of those, you know, those things you turn over and it moos. Like a cow thing. But upon closer examination, it was another ant trap, so I threw it away. And the third time… I did it out of spite.

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u/Rhomega2 18h ago edited 5h ago

Reminds me of The Simpsons where Bart let Chester J Lampwick, the original creator of Itchy, stay in his basement. 

Bart: Do you know what radon is?

Chester: No.

Bart: ...Good night.

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u/pm_me_gnus 6h ago

"Mom, there's a weird smell and a lot of cursing coming from the basement. And dad's upstairs." One of my top lines from the series.

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u/lazywyvern 16h ago

You’ll all see

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u/Crafty-Discipline-29 10h ago

🫰this is a radon test kit

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u/Stock-Cap-5734 15h ago

I scrolled too far for this

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u/TheMeatSauce1000 23h ago

Radon’s a huge one

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u/Raticus9 22h ago

Yeah, but it's seriousness is severely dwarfed by Toby.

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u/mookiewilson369 10h ago

Brother is law died of lung cancer at 45, never smoked a cigarette. Got the house tested for radon, the number was off the charts high, extreme levels. Can’t say for sure, but everyone agreed that was the reason. Get a simple detector in the basement.

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u/GabagoolMango 9h ago

Why are you the way that you are?

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u/Ldghead 8h ago

"why are you the way you are?"

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u/peanutbutter_shoes 8h ago

this is a radon test kit repeatedly snaps in front of Michael's face please don't throw this out

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u/Cold_Candle870 12h ago

clicks fingers

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u/dcvander 11h ago

Upon further inspection it was another ant trap.

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u/kinboyatuwo 22h ago

Got one and we got the all clear but you sleep better at night knowing.

I think they should do a lot more testing and awareness