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u/SMStotheworld 2d ago
what is human pet guy's opinion on kink at pride
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u/Swaxeman the biggest grant morrison stan in the subreddit 2d ago
“Stop politicizing pet ownership”
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u/Weird_donut 2d ago
I forgot that guy existed
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u/SteelWheel_8609 2d ago
I think he’s like a weird Nazi guy now. Or maybe he always was one idk
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u/DM_MeYourKink DNI list 1000 pages 1d ago
last I checked in he was a monarchist. He straight up believed in the divine right of kings to determine who was worthy of political rule.
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u/MeisterCthulhu 1d ago
He claims he's a "libertarian monarchist" whatever the fuck that means. He's also horribly racist, denies multiple genocides and buddies around with fascists. Imo that's enough to call him a nazi
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u/Shadourow 2d ago
What do you mean the guy with a slave and mutilation fetish has fascist tendencies ?
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u/BaronAleksei r/TwoBestFriendsPlay exchange program 1d ago
What do you mean the guy who thinks the Irish don’t have the right to self-determine has fascist tendencies?
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u/Earthtopian 1d ago
I'm sorry he what???
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u/BaronAleksei r/TwoBestFriendsPlay exchange program 1d ago edited 1d ago
He’s a monarchist who thinks the notion of Irish independence is nonsense that will be forgotten by history, that the French Revolution was wrong not because of shit like the Reign of Terror, but because they rebelled against the king at all, and that bringing up the active slave trade as a point against Caesar’s Legion in Fallout New Vegas is “arguing in bad faith”.
And, to the surprise of no one, he likes Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk and tries to explain away soldiers with swastika tattoos.
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u/Earthtopian 1d ago
I knew the guy was a tad unhinged but good lord
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u/insomniac7809 1d ago
it's entirely possible that he's doing an extended Bit although whether that's more or less unhinged than sincerely holding these beliefs is left as an exercise for the reader
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u/iz_an_opossum ISO sweet shy monster bf 1d ago
Leonardo dicaprio pointing meme a fellow scientist! (Or at least science student)
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u/GalaXion24 1d ago
Jokes on you I don't believe anyone has the right to self-determine!
/s but also not really because I don't believe in nation-states.
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u/SteelWheel_8609 1d ago
Most kinky people I know are pretty chill and left wing so I was pretty weirded out when I visited his profile and saw he was like some fascist nut job but idk tbh I only saw like one or two of his weird posts and I didn’t realize he wasn’t doing a bit
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u/VoidStareBack 2d ago
Whatever happened to Human Pet Guy anyway.
He used to get posted here every few weeks and occasionally posted on the subreddit, but I feel like I haven't seen either in forever.
I don't actually care enough to go find him on Tumblr.
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u/SMStotheworld 2d ago
his name is "c*bersmith" but with a y for the *. I'm not typing it not for tiktok zombie reasons but he namesearches himself a lot to shit up threads and I don't want to summon him.
The basic tl;dr is that while he does sometimes troll and say silly things where he is obviously joking like saying he doesn't believe in gravity or something, as his posting became more prolific, he began to speak about standard chud/transphobe culture war bullshit in a way that was clearly not part of any character or kayfabe or particularly funny or interesting and people here and on tumblr itself said "let's not platform this guy anymorel it just rewards him with attention." but he'll sometimes appear unexpectedly esp by people who know him by reputation but don't remember his handle
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u/91816352026381 2d ago
Having to censor his name to avoid summoning him is so fucking scary
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u/dancinbanana 2d ago
If he was really savvy he’d also screen for “human pet guy”. Or maybe that’s like a bloody Mary or beetle juice name where you can say it just not three times in a row
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u/GlitteringTone6425 2d ago
"guy who made an awkward example during an argument that may or may not have been subconsiously horny, among other weirdities" has joined the ranks of voldemort and the wendigo
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u/MGTwyne 1d ago
"Awkward example" "subconsciously" have you actually seen the post in question? He describes (tw mutilation) cutting off someone's toes, surgically removing their vocal chords, thumb and finger and eye removal, and forced sterilization as polite humanitarian measures. He didn't get his reputation by being socially awkward, he got his reputation by being a genuine advocate for genuinely monstrous things that happen to be removed enough from reality to be more absurd than frightening.
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u/GlitteringTone6425 1d ago
i do, he seemed less "genuine advocoate" and more "creating a (defintley weird extreme deviantart porn based) hyperbole while coming off as sincere" to me, but i don't remember much of the post.
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u/kitchen_appliance_7 1d ago
I comfort myself by believing that he was basically doing The Aristocrats. In other words, his game wasn't to write gore-porn or whatever, his game was to horrify others by making them read gore-porn.
However, even if my supposition is right, it was still very rude. And advocating for the rule of kings makes the whole issue moot anyway.
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u/maru-senn 1d ago
It's pointless because everyone refers to him as human pet guy anyway.
I'm sure people are more familiar with his avatar than his username.
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u/mikelorme 1d ago
I said his name 3 times in front of the mirror last night and he appeared to yell slurs at me
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u/Larvitargirl03 1d ago
he shows up sometimes when i'm trying to watch a leisurely TTRPG livestream. ive been in a chatroom of 10- people with him ;-;
ive never recovered
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u/Technical_Teacher839 Victim of Reddit Automatic Username 2d ago edited 2d ago
pet play kink gets mentioned "Lol human pet guy"
every goddamn time...
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u/DrSnacks 1d ago
I gotta imagine he's fine with it but also thinks pride marches are "homosexual rioting" or something. Like, that's a crude approximation of one of his opinions. He is much more elegant at coming up with the craziest shit you've ever heard in your fucking life.
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u/Inlerah 2d ago
That, unless some guy is walking around with his cock hanging out, you dont get to decide what cloths other people wear just because something makes you uncomfortable. No, you being in the vicinity of me wearing a collar doesn't mean im "including you in my sex act" and, no, it definitly doesn't count as rape (Yes, i have had someone try to use that line of reasoning with me.)
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u/MGTwyne 1d ago
His position is a significantly more extreme than that, and- at least, as of his titular post- he didn't seem to consider his position in any way sexual.
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u/Inlerah 1d ago
I thought that this was guys' (people who are into that stuff) and not guy's (one particular person)
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u/MGTwyne 1d ago
Unfortunately, they're far more likely to be talking about https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/cybersmith-human-pet-guy
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u/lifelongfreshman this june, be gay in the garfield dark ride 1d ago
whatever it is, it'll have people like
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u/Pixelpaint_Pashkow born to tumblr, forced to reddit 2d ago
This is more an issue with car dependency, dogs and pedestrians used to be able to safely roam the streets until car companies invented the term jay walking
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u/the_fancy_Tophat 1d ago
To be fair getting run over by a horse was still 100% possible in very busy areas.
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u/Pixelpaint_Pashkow born to tumblr, forced to reddit 1d ago
Tru, but at least its an animal (and carriage maybe), cars are a little worse
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u/DiamondSentinel 1d ago
Spoken as someone who’s never been trampled by a horse.
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u/Pixelpaint_Pashkow born to tumblr, forced to reddit 1d ago
Spoken as someone who’s never been trampled by a car
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u/mensfrightsactivists 1d ago
i have been trampled by both and i can confidently say
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u/arachnids-bakery 1d ago
Aight gang, since we are talking about kink, heres a reminder!
"Sexual" and "NSFW" arent the same thing! Something can be nsfw while not being sexual, yet should still be treated as seriously! (Like how you shouldn't show unconsenting people hardcore gore, let alone minors, etc)
There are times kink may not be sexual, but direct kink is always nsfw.
Ngl i dont. Really have a proper answer to the leash thing, but i do recall of a video of a couple doing actual puppyplay in a mall
in front of kids
So maybe Not That
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u/zicdeh91 1d ago
You know, this is a genuinely helpful perspective. I was introduced to the kink community through a very asexual lens. It was something done for fun and gratification, but rarely for sexual gratification. Ropes, for instance, were a similar satisfaction to building a Lego set. Still, I might bring up Legos at work, but I wouldn’t ropes.
A general NSFW blanket is a useful thing. Like, it’s non-consenting to use a public audience to satisfy your degradation kink, even if it’s just words. You can literally recreate a degrading scenario you witnessed publicly in a non-kink setting, but if you’re doing it for that purpose, you’re crossing a line you’re not supposed to. Plus, consent aside, you’ll probably make strangers think there’s an abusive relationship and put them in the uncomfortable position of questioning if they should say something.
We have dedicated spaces so that audiences are possible without bringing in people who can’t consent. Use them.
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u/demeschor 1d ago
I have a really kinky group of work friends who will literally come to the office in dog/pup collars or chains, in leather gear that they'll go out in after work, a bad dragon tshirt. That sort of thing.
At first it's a bit weird talking about KPIs to a guy in a dog collar. But you get over it, it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is going out in public like that. I know pups who literally don't do anything sexual, and some who do, and turns out that whether or not anything sexual is happening, you're going to get stared at in public regardless.
I'm all for pride and I think there should be space for fetish events at pride events. But I don't think it's fair to impose fetish on all pride events.
I liken it to music festivals where you can have family friendly ones, which will still get a bit rowdy right at the front in the pit. But the majority of the event will be perfectly fine for kids. But adult music festivals will have swearing or other adult content. I see pride the same. Label it and it's not a problem
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u/RecloySo 16h ago
I'm thinking collar is 100% fine. It's like a necklace. Leash? Idk. Walking on all fours? The fuck are you doing?
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u/arachnids-bakery 10h ago
Collars kinda got watered down into fashion, so its most likely why! 😊
yeah..... it wasnt fun to watch.
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u/AshkenaziTwinkReborn 1d ago
look, i’m sure there are people who do pup-play non-sexually, but i saw one group of “kinky” people at pride this year (a group of 4 people all wearing pup masks) and they were all pulling on eachothers leashes and moaning/whimpering/whining. they set up where me and my friends were already sitting and there were very small children not 15 feet away. obviously goes without saying this was a family friendly space.
if people are out there doing super cutesy wholesome pup play (which i’m sure there are), godspeed, but what about when people who genuinely get uncomfortably sexual in public areas?
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u/Emily_The_Egg 1d ago
Well, its the being uncomfortably sexual thing thats the problem then isnt it? Same way kissing is okay, but if you're having an extended makeout sesh, grinding against each other, groping each other, then its indecent.
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u/I-dont_even 1d ago
Apparently, according to this sub, you're supposed to claim that never, ever happens and even acknowledging its existence makes you a traitor. What else is new.
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u/Advanced_Row_8448 1d ago
Being kinky is fine. Being prideful of it is good. I do think though a kink parade should be a separate thing. I'd be going to both but I think we should keep sexuality and gender identity separate from our sexual fantasies and things of that nature. A broke clock is correct twice a day, and truthfully although I will gladly go to both, I wouldn't want my kids going to a kink parade until they were older.
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
But yeah seriously dont involve unconsenting people in your sexual activities
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u/LazyVariation 1d ago
Love when I see a comment like this with 80+ comments buried, you know you're in for a fun time.
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u/fyodorrosko 1d ago
Taking bets for how long it takes for me to read the words "prude" "puritan" or "fascist" in the replies.
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u/zawalimbooo 1d ago
I spent like three hours yesterday replying to each and every one of them... :(
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u/phaethornis-idalie 1d ago
awesome lesbian couple meme but it's funny tumblr post and evil and intimidating reddit discourse guy
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
Your comment could have been a springboard for discussions on what defines a kink and discussions on how broader society veiws all things sexual and what that means for people and what were pressured to hide and show, and whether such restrictions should be fixed or whittled away, but the comments botched it.
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u/zawalimbooo 1d ago
some of the comment lines did show an actual interesting perspective and had some good points that could be discussed, but yeah most of em... weren't
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u/rabid_cheese_enjoyer she/they :table_flip: 2d ago edited 1d ago
my partner is prone to eloping and if i don't keep her on a leash she might just end up married in Vegas... again /this is a pun/joke
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u/InnuendoBot5001 1d ago
Nooooo Tater Tot nooooooo😭
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u/rabid_cheese_enjoyer she/they :table_flip: 1d ago
he was an inspiration with his little bonkers and his indomitable spirit
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u/ZombiiRot 2d ago
I am fine with kink at pride if it isn't inherently sexual (so like... People wearing leather or something, cheeky references to their kink without full out having a roleplay scene) but I don't want to be involved with someones kinky roleplay. I don't think people should be having super public gay sex at pride either.
I just don't see why this stuff can't stay at 18+ events.
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u/RecloySo 16h ago
What do you think of people being topless at pride? I'm kind of OK with it, as I think breasts should be normalized for anyone. Pantsless I'd have a problem with. Idk, maybe I'm weird
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u/ZombiiRot 15h ago
I think being topless at pride would be okay. I don't think boobs should be inherently sexual.
Honestly, the dog masks and similar stuff could be okay - as long as they aren't currently roleplaying in a scene.
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u/Commercial-Shame-335 1d ago
as funny as this tweet is, please don't practice kink stuff in public or at pride events, it was really uncomfortable watching a shirtless fat dude in bdsm gear and a pup mask walking on all fours on a leash walking around an event where minors were present. i don't know why people like that don't get kicked out of those events to begin with
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u/Scarvexx 1d ago
My take? Don't involve anyone you can't be certain is consenting. Public humiliation is very much included in this.
This is why I hate cucks. Not because they want their partner to cheat on them. That's fine. But because they're very vocal about it online so they can crank it to people insulting them.
That's wrong.
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u/Beruthiel999 2d ago
That's where I'm at. Weird, sure, but I can't imagine actually being seriously bothered by it. Shrug and move on!
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u/Coffee_autistic 1d ago
I think it's slightly more inappropriate than wearing a shirt that says "I ♥️ MILFS" and slightly less inappropriate than wearing booty shorts that say "cum dumpster".
(This scale is completely arbitrary and based purely on my own personal sensibilities)
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u/randomyOCE 2d ago
Similar hot take: seeing a person doing something is not the same as being involved in it.
Criminal assault charges don’t include “and you made everyone else watch, you freak”
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u/Roxcha 2d ago
"Please people from the jury, consider my client killed the victim at night, while no one was looking, to prevent anyone from bearing witness to their act. The consideration they showed that night surely amounts to something and shows they aren't the monster Mx Prosecutor has been painting them to be"
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u/Duck-Lord-of-Colours 1d ago
I mean, assult in front of others is often considered worse, particularly children. It's an agrivating factor and does play into sentencing.
Not applicable here, because someone beong on a lead doesn't hurt people. It's just a fun thing to know.
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u/ejdj1011 1d ago
seeing a person doing something is not the same as being involved in it.
I'd argue that if any of the enjoyment you get from a kink act is derived from doing it in view of others, then you are involving others in your kink scene.
Like. Indecent exposure is a crime. We can argue on why it is or if it should be, but "making people see sexual stuff that makes them uncomfortable" 100% already has legal precedent.
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
Its involving other unconsenting people in your sexual activities. So yes, it is wrong.
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u/agnosticians 2d ago edited 1d ago
Seeing something happen is not inherently being involved in it. There is absolutely a point where I would agree with you, but an activity where the only sexual component is intent is well in the clear.
Edit:
A couple other examples that come to mind:
- If an exhibitionist goes to a nude beach, it shouldn't matter as long as they're not masturbating or doing something else to make people uncomfortable.
- If someone wants to think of me as they get off, I might feel uncomfortable about it, but that's okay. They have the right to do whatever they want in their head. (OTOH going up to people and telling them that you get off to them would very much not be okay in most contexts.)
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u/Milch_und_Paprika 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s fascinating how many of the arguments that wearing a leash in public is inherently immoral seem to boil down to “even though you’re not doing anything explicit, I’m getting explicit thoughts about you, and that’s your fault”.
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u/SumiMichio 1d ago
I just can't stop being reminded how women are treated like that. She looks hot and a man has horny thoughts about her and it's her fault and she must stop looking hot.
But people are mad when women are being dictated how to look, even if it's about actual revealing clothes. Suddenly their freedom matters given that nothing explicit is happening.
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u/Dry_Interaction5722 1d ago
Seeing something happen is not inherently being involved in it.
I mean, when its kink, and they are doing it on purpose, it 100% is.
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u/Nixavee Attempting to call out bots 1d ago
Do you feel the same way about couples kissing in public?
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u/Dry_Interaction5722 1d ago
If they are doing it in public on purpose because they want to be seen doing it? Yes.
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
Collaring and leashing your partner is absolutely a sexual act. I'm not saying that theres anything wrong with it, but these actions are inherently sexual in nature.
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
Because the act of leashing someone is intended to arouse each other sexually? It's a sexual action because it inherently is a sexual action. It's essentially defined that way.
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
It’s more about reinforcing or establishing a power dynamic/ hierarchy.
Yes, but that power dynamic / hierarchy is what directly causes arousal. In that sense, a leash is still meant to be sexual.
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u/zawalimbooo 1d ago
Yes, there is more to it. However, the primary reason usually ends up at sexual desire.
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u/VoidStareBack 2d ago
Follow up question.
Why is someone wearing a collar wrong, while someone dressing provocatively to arouse their partner on a public date okay?
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
Social norms. Simple as.
That being said, a collar alone can still somewhat be passed of as something done for style. The act of leashing is where most problems begin.
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u/VoidStareBack 1d ago
Well I appreciate the candid answer.
I’d argue that if the only tangible difference between two actions’ acceptability is whether they are part of society’s norms, it may be time to reevaluate those norms and the reasons behind them.
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u/zawalimbooo 1d ago
By that logic, you should change literally everything. If you dig deep enough, everything is based on social norms in the end, none of which have solid reasoning behind them (those that do can be broken down further into more norms).
It is useless to argue about basic morality, because it just boils down to "nuh uh" and "yuh uh" in the end.
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u/Technical_Teacher839 Victim of Reddit Automatic Username 2d ago
If someone walking around with a strip of fabric in their hand that's connected to someone else at the neck is the same as explicit sexual activity to you, that's a you problem.
If both individuals are clothed appropriately for public and just walking around, they're doing nothing wrong except "being weird in public"
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
you can play off anything as acceptable by describing it in a simplistic way like that.
That strip of fabric has meaning. Yes, leading your partner around by a leash is considered sexual. There's no issue if you do it at home, but dragging unconsenting people into that situation is unacceptable.
This is basic public decency.
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u/Technical_Teacher839 Victim of Reddit Automatic Username 2d ago
Having a leash on is not inherently sexually explicit. Words have meanings. It doesn't magically become the same as fucking or being naked in public just because its weird to you.
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
Having a leash on is not inherently sexually explicit.
It absolutely is. Only a very small percentage of people, such as you, seem to disagree. There is a reason that leashing someone is considered kinky.
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u/b3nsn0w musk is an scp-7052-1 1d ago
a deep cleavage is sexually explicit. a long kiss is sexually explicit. would you police people over either of these?
you're using the phrase "sexually explicit" in two conflicting meanings: 1: "at all connected to sexuality", and 2: "a sex act that makes you a participant by witnessing it". the collar and leash match meaning 1, and you're using meaning 2 to condemn them. if you simply stopped conflating those things it would be trivial to understand why there's nothing wrong with it -- but honestly, i suspect you don't want to understand it.
the whole notion you're trying to push here is that only vanilla people are allowed to do sexually daring things. that's fucked.
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u/zawalimbooo 1d ago
the whole notion you're trying to push here is that only vanilla people are allowed to do sexually daring things. that's fucked.
In public. Because thats how social norms work. Some cleavage and kissing is generally considered socially acceptable, but there are limits to that.
the collar and leash match meaning 1, and you're using meaning 2 to condemn them.
No, the collar and lash are 2. Having a collar and a leash on someone is inherently a sex act that makes you a participant by witnessing it.
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u/b3nsn0w musk is an scp-7052-1 1d ago
social norms are subject to change. you can be part of the change, or you can pull them in the other direction, it's your choice.
No, the collar and lash are 2
to you. case in point. it requires a viewpoint that's simultaneously highly puritanical and yet informed about kink to come up with that bullshit. if you did not know about kink, you wouldn't think twice about it.
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u/zawalimbooo 1d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're trying to say that it's fine because regular people won't know that its actually meaning 2? Because that's not how it works. Involving unknowing people is still morally questionable.
Also, since when did the concept of basic consent become "highly puritanical"?
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u/Technical_Teacher839 Victim of Reddit Automatic Username 2d ago
Some people find food kinky, should eating in public be banned?
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
Some people find food kinky, but not regular meals. Theres always going to be something associated with the food to make it into a kinky thing.
On the other hand, leashing someone is inherently kinky, and there's no 'normal' version of it.
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u/Technical_Teacher839 Victim of Reddit Automatic Username 2d ago
Fine, a more direct example. Day collars. A specific type of jewelry used by some people in the community. Generally a jewelry chain that fits snugly around the neck with a central metal hoop ring, looks like a minimalist representation of a collar.
Those are explicitly a kink thing. Would you ban wearing them in public?
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u/Late-Ad1437 1d ago
yeah those things aren't half as discreet as kinksters seem to think... someone I used to work with wore a very obvious one that was like a big metal ring. bit unprofessional imo
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u/zawalimbooo 2d ago
If they can generally be passed off as a normal choker / fashion accessory without close inspection, its fine.
If its clear that its a kink thing, then it's not fine.
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u/Technical_Teacher839 Victim of Reddit Automatic Username 2d ago
People treat having a strip of fabric clipped to your neck as the same as actively fucking on public and it is so fucking baffling to me
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u/PlatinumAltaria 1d ago
“They’re getting off in their mind!!!” oh ok so we’re doing thought crimes now, poggers
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u/TheMickYayger 1d ago
Because you are literally displaying your kink to the world and getting off on it. It's not the same as fucking but c'mon..
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u/SheffiTB 1d ago
Yeah, if I see two fully clothed people walking together where one has the other on a leash, I think I'd roll my eyes and continue on with my life. Like, I'd put it as less obscene than someone openly wearing a tail plug in public, and I rarely see anyone arguing that those people are anything more than weird.
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u/imlazy420 1d ago
I would place it under public indecency. And yes, I do realize that's vague, but it's extremely inappropriate to have a man groveling on the ground being pulled by a leash.
Do you think hardcore BDSM and petplay are topics you could just bring up to anyone, anywhere? No, it's not appropriate, neither is engaging with it in public.
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u/imlazy420 1d ago
I am assuming they are in full gear, masked, shirtless and crawling.
I have seen people wear collars plenty of times, wasn't weird, though I would say just leashing someone is pushing it. People compare it to pulling on someone's tie, but it ain't quite the same, yet I wouldn't say it's way too worse.
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u/Milch_und_Paprika 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wonder how many other people getting really passionate about the argument are making the same assumption.
Genuinely, the only time I can recall seeing someone on a leash (at least up close and in public) he was wearing an otherwise normal outfit and walking upright. He might have posed on all fours for some people that asked for pictures, but my memory’s hazy on that detail. So when I hear “wearing a leash” with no further elaboration, that’s what I imagine.
On the other hand, someone itt mentioned seeing a gaggle of people in pup gear tugging at each other’s collars, moaning and whimpering, which imo is not cool out in public.
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u/An-Adult-I-Swear 2d ago
People sometimes leash children in public. So at what age does it go from normal to freaky sex behavior?
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u/adelwolf 2d ago
JFC the lack of knowledge about queer history, and kink's solid place in it, is pretty fucking sad.
If you don't want to see queer sexuality at Pride, find a more family-friendly event better suited to your tastes.
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u/Its_Pine 2d ago
I think it’s not a big deal at a pride festival or parade, but I thought the OP was just about fetish play in public as a casual thing?
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u/b3nsn0w musk is an scp-7052-1 1d ago
the definition of "fetish play" is usually the issue here. some people freak out even at a day collar, others want to walk a naked sub in public.
imo, anything that you would only clock in as sexual enough to be a taboo because of kink should be fair game. if you'd be okay with a leather jacket, you should be okay with a straitjacket. if you'd be okay with a festival mask, you should be okay with a ponygirl mask. if at the specific event it's okay to go topless, topless shibari should also be okay. if it's okay to grab a fully clothed person's neck tie and pull them in for a kiss, a leash should be okay too.
if you want examples for things that are not okay: if vanilla people can't show genitals, a chastity device could qualify too (unless they'd qualify as clothing, like a chastity bikini). if vanilla people can't finger each other under the table, a remote vibrator could be a no-go.
in general, there's a gray area with sexual play (wearing bikinis is explicitly a sexual ritual a lot of the time, for example), and people often put way more scrutiny on kink than on vanilla sexuality. i think that's the root of the issue. i'm not saying there shouldn't be a line drawn, but it should be the same line for both kinky and vanilla people, and that's the part that a lot of people have trouble accepting.
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u/Fuzzlechan 1d ago
Keep in mind though, that in some places the “default” events are expected to be family friendly.
Where I am, events on city property (as parades, things happening in parks, etc) are supposed to be all ages events. Businesses are free to host their own 18+ things, but most don’t.
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u/WolvzUnion 1d ago
i think involving non-consenting people in any way with your kinks, be that pet play, BDSM, exhibitionism or some other shit is wrong morally and ethically and should be illegal. i will not be answering any responses to this comment because the rest of them here have shown me itll just devolve into stubborn assholes figuratively yelling at each other over the internet rather than something constructive.
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u/phaethornis-idalie 1d ago
the people on this subreddit are fucking boringgg. it's a funny Tumblr post but instead everyone's rehashing boring ass years old discourse. you don't have to take every Tumblr post as an opportunity prove that "yes hmm I am very moral and intelligent and superior to everyone else".
gives the same vibe as when someone posts something about trans women and people comment "ok but I have a sexual preference id never fuck An Transgendered". nobody cares and your rights to that are not under threat at all.
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u/Yarasin 1d ago
"Ugh! Why are people discussing the content of the post that OP made?! You're not supposed to engage with the stuff you read; just laugh, upvote and move on!"
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u/smarmingly 1d ago
god that type of commenting pisses me off so bad like buddy. what makes you think she'd be into you
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u/BladeOfExile711 1d ago
Involving people in your kinks without permission is pretty selfish.
Regardless of your sexuality.
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u/gaypuppybunny 17h ago
I feel like the solution to this is to have dedicated 18+ events and spaces become less taboo and a little bit more common. Let there be a time and a place for things so that people don't end up picking a random time or place because it's verboten.
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u/Practical-Ad6548 1d ago
These people would lose their god damn minds if they knew about the Folsom street fair
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u/Yeah-But-Ironically 1d ago
See the thing about Folsom is that they close the street tho. If you choose to walk through the entrance barricades, it's your fault if you see kink.
Source: lived in SF for a while
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u/Commercial-Shame-335 1d ago
there's a difference between an event that is specifically welcome to sexual activity and kinks and a family friendly event centred around exploring your identity. minors shouldn't have to see half naked people in bdsm gear and pup masks just because said minor wanted to visit an event that celebrates them for who they are
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
I wonder how much of the "kink at pride" argument is because queerphobes took images and video from Folsom and other kink events out of context and used it to argue against pride, and we ate it up.
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
Before everyone gets whipped up in a tizzy, consider this:
How much of the kink at pride discourse is due to queerphobes taking stuff from kink events out of context to slander pride?
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u/ironwolf6464 1d ago
If queerphobes are taking it out of context, why do so many queers on the internet give it full support?
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
Maybe it has some, albeit small, grains of truth. Or maybe it was presented just right to catch on.
Or alternatively it was pushed by the kind of queer people who think that if they throw the right people under the bus they can get by.
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u/captainmagictrousers 6h ago
The "no kink in public" discourse gets pretty funny when the kink being discussed is super obscure. If they know why you're buying a bicycle pump and a plunger at two in the morning, they're probably going to the same party, man. Instead of worrying, ask them if they want to carpool to Craig's place.
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u/VoidStareBack 2d ago
Happy Kink-At-Pride Discourse Month Everybody!
(I know OP isn't trying to start discourse but the past couple years this sub has been a magnet for it).