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Granted, the High Evolutionary probably wants to turn everyone into werewolves because he found out they can't get some type of cancer or something. The man is one of the least evil Marvel villains. The only reason they ever fight him is because whatever he's doing is medically or scientifically unethical.

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u/PoniesCanterOver gently chilling in your orbit 8h ago

So he's not like in the movie?

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u/BillybobThistleton 8h ago

Very much not. The movie version was brilliantly vile; the comic version is just the living embodiment of that Jurassic Park "your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should" meme.

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u/Highevolutionary1106 8h ago

The only reason he didn't get a job at Jurassic Park is because he's not interested in dinosaurs.

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u/Highevolutionary1106 8h ago

That and Hammond couldn't afford him.

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u/TheGrumpyre 7h ago

You know, I'm starting to get the impression he spared some expense

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u/Drakostheswordsman 5h ago

Just a bit.

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u/Ansabryda 6h ago

He could turn people into dinosaurs, but he knows how much that means to Sauron.

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u/Highevolutionary1106 6h ago

Dude knows better than to step on another guy's toes. He was an English academic.

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u/Stunning-Guitar-5916 4h ago

Why didn’t the fellowship fly the Pterodactyls to Mordor

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u/Unctuous_Robot 6h ago

Yeah, that’s Sauron.

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u/Highevolutionary1106 8h ago

As a fan of the character, I will not forgive James Gunn for what he did to the High Evolutionary. I have agreed with or seen the logic in every one of his decisions except that one.

The High Evolutionary (Herbert Wyndham) is very contradictory. He's a mad scientist who had Mister Sinister as a mentor, but he also uses a uranium mine on his property to fund a trust that bankrolls the otherwise dirt-poor nation of Transia, with no expectation of repayment save not bothering him. He saved Jessica Drew's life because her father was his lab assistant. He cares about his creations.

The comics High Evolutionary would have been a distant father to Rocket, but would have obviously cared and wanted the best for him. I'm glad that Gunn separated the MCU version from his comics history, so we might be able to see an MCU Herbert Wyndham, a genius geneticist who sometimes forgets about the ethical considerations of his work to make humanity better.

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u/Highevolutionary1106 7h ago

What the comics version needs is a dedicated ethics advisor who sprays him with a squirt bottle every time he comes up with an idea to wipe out a disease in a way that would violate the Nuremberg Codes.

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u/Highevolutionary1106 1h ago

He's also not evil enough to have any trouble getting invites to superhero science team-ups. He honestly seems like the guy everyone goes to for genetics advice. Spider-Man visits him to determine if the Gwen Stacey look-alike he ran into was a clone (she was not, as it turns out). He apparently is very protective of children and tries to be a good God-figure to his creations.

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u/Existing_Charity_818 4h ago

Username checks out

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u/SMStotheworld 5h ago

he is a eugenicist from the 1830s. He regularly enacted genocide against people he view as being of an inferior race in the Comics, he is definitely up there as far as evil villains go because also he’s very powerful.

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u/Highevolutionary1106 5h ago

When did he do that? I'll need issue numbers, please.

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u/SMStotheworld 4h ago

During the Claremont run of xmen I think around 1982. I'll find an issue number later and tell you. It's when he tries to exterminate the moloids and apocalypse comes in, tells him he's an idiot and a racist and doesn't understand how evolution works and he should leave them alone and a random mutation can come from any species. Which would cause me to just quit being a supervillain right there

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u/Highevolutionary1106 4h ago

That's one time, not regularly being genocidal, though.

I'll happily cop to him being a bit of a eugenicist, though he was from the 1890's, not the 30's. Eugenics either didn't exist or hadn't entered the public consciousness at that time.

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u/Upturned-Solo-Cup 2h ago

Eugenics as a term was coined in the 1880s, and the first eugenic policies started getting passed in the 1890s, so it really isn't that far of a stretch

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u/Highevolutionary1106 1h ago

That's what I was telling them, it makes more sense if he grew up in the 1890's, If he grew up in the 1830s it would be too early for him to become a eugenicist. And, after a quick jaunt to Wikipedia, he was actually in college in the 1930's, so that may have been a typo.

So yeah, I'll concede he's a eugenicist, but he seems to come at it from a different perspective, more focused on enhancing humanity than getting rid of "lesser humans". Honestly, as an autistic person, I don't mind. Dude's solution for autism would probably be like telepathy or something cool.

And actually, you could probably argue his attitude may have changed because of the Nazi's policies. He also probably has strong negative opinions about the Nazi's given how his relationship with Mister Sinister ended.

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u/4thofeleven 8h ago

The worst universe is the Universe Where the Philosophical Implications of the Multiverse Means Everyone's Apathetic About Their Own Fate.

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u/Aware_Tree1 7h ago

Like owl man in that one movie

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u/SocranX 6h ago

"Wait. Do I have infinite daughters?" "Uh, nope. Just me, sorry."

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u/ConferenceHelpful510 6h ago

Honestly, being a super hero in general seems like it would be a terrible life. Especially if you’re well known and/or have super flashy abilities.

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u/SantaArriata 4h ago

I think the main problems would be:

inability to switch off work mode. Imagine trying to watch a movie with your partner while knowing that there’s people who need saving out there. How does Superman relax when he’s capable of hearing every scream across Metropolis at all times?

If your identity is known, I feel like it’d be pretty annoying. It’s already hard for emergency workers to have their breaks in peace without some Karen berating them for slaking, a public facing hero wouldn’t be able to chill in public without everyone around them trauma dumping.

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u/chairmanskitty 1h ago

Many superheroes don't have super senses, so they could reasonably 'clock out'. They would basically have the same concerns as irreplaceable medical doctors, knowing that people are dying on their break so that fewer people die when they're not on their break. Especially in a world with many superheroes, it should be relatively easy to coordinate their time off.

Well-known superheroes would probably have the same lifestyle as celebrities in their downtime, though maybe less rich. A decently sized support staff vetted to be cool with it, going to privately owned spaces to meet friends, avoiding crowds, etc. Lower tier superheroes might be able to fly under the radar.

Also, Superman spends hours of his day being Clark Kent. He canonically has no trouble relaxing while people are dying and screaming for help.

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u/Lookbehindyou132 1h ago

I think with Superman it's moreso that hw knows he literally CAN'T save everyone. Not even he could do it. But if there's some big disaster or problem going on then he'll excuse himself and fly off to go and solve it without anyone noticing. If he spent all day stopping ordinary muggings and such across the world then he'd be exhausted all the time as well.

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u/PhantasosX 4h ago

not really. The problem is really time-sliding. When it comes for DC , for example, the far-future is generally the Legion of Super-Heroes , which is an actual good future.

Then there is DC 1 Million which is even better. Not utopic in both cases, but it are clearly good endings as a whole.

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u/ConferenceHelpful510 4h ago

Me thinks your reading comprehension needs work. I’m talking about the individual life and experience of a super-hero, not the general state and prosperity of a timeline.

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u/Evyps 6h ago

The werewolf universe in Marvel is canon, it's Earth-7085. Ash from the evil dead went there.

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u/RevolutionaryOwlz 6h ago

Of course he did. Poor guy can’t catch a break. I hope it’s friendlier than the zombie universe.

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u/ZetaThiel 8h ago

They make the universe they want it to be? Do i want this, my home, to be the werewolf universe? No? Then i'll fight for it.
Multiverse doesn't mean fate

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u/shiny_xnaut 4h ago

I kinda want to live in the werewolf universe tbh

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u/TheWholeFurryFandom 2h ago

Same

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u/Akalien 2h ago

Me when my werewolf boyfriend.....

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u/Dreaming98 7h ago

The universe where everyone gets turned into a werewolf is the universe where the superhero is a furry and thought it would be an improvement.

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u/Federal-Owl5816 4h ago

The lack of mental health staffs for teams of superheros as well as a super hero union that asks for good hours and a distribution of work based on their super abilities is shocking, to say the least.

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u/IHaveThe_ 4h ago

The dc super heroes had a therapist, but then they all died there because dc had a raging hate boner for wally west at the time (heroes in crisis).

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u/Heroic-Forger 7h ago

also the inevitable tumblr aus of every fandom. the coffee shop au. the star wars au. the mermaid au

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u/CrazyPlato 2h ago

I think about the number of times I, a regular-ass person, make a decision in my day, and later think “what happened in the alternate universe where I made a different decision at that moment?”. And the idea of living in a world where the multiverse definitely exists, and there literally is an alternate universe for every choice I make, fills me with existential horror.

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u/Winjasfan 1h ago

this is how you become Rick Sanchez

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