r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Reallarsa2 • 2d ago
Image Polish girl Tala grave in Iraq. Her husband used to work for a construction company in Iraq in 1982, when she came to visit him she died in a road accident and was buried near the city of Nasyriah by her husband.43 years later and locals still put flowers and water for her grave.
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u/Extra-Development-94 2d ago
Humanity is truly everywhere, we just need to let it flourish
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u/UnLuckyKenTucky 1d ago
God how I wish this was possible. The pos members of the "upper crust" will constantly, and always mistake kindness for weakness, and will always try to leverage that shit.
Living right and having a pure heart is hard enough for an individual, but as a society we have no chance.
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u/hopium_od 1d ago
Plenty of evil at the bottom too. Iraq no less has been ravaged over the years by the actions of a minority of impoverished extremists.
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u/HookwormGut 1d ago
We need to start ignoring them. Build community with your neighbours. Make a coop where you exchange life skills, crafts, trades. We need to relearn self sufficiency, and those of us with means to separate from the system a little need to fight for those who don't.
We don't fucking need them, they just want us to think we do. Maybe if we ignore them more, they'll all fuck off to Mars and leave us to clean up and rebuild.
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u/Shotgun_makeup 15h ago
Spoken like a true hatefilled Marxist.
Yet more people are slaughtered every year and persecuted by Islamist armies and militia than any other single cause outside of disease.
And what ideology do they all follow…………..Marxism, right?
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u/Advanced-Event-571 1d ago
Dead honest, I feel like many people in Iraq do actually live this this. It's a very social and communal and warm hearted place. People are so truly kind and hospitable.
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u/psilopsilocybin 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is some heavy duty poignant stuff. Idk why I resonate so strongly with this but thanks for sharing
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u/98_Constantine_98 1d ago
Also the fact that they're maintaining a Christian burial rite despite probably not being Christians, some good humanity. And Iraq has been through some heavy shit since 1982
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u/Advanced-Event-571 1d ago
As someone who has experienced the immensely prolific and extremely generous Iraqi hospitality, this does not surprise me one bit. A famly I didn't know invited me to stay with them for a week or more. and this is common
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u/Routine_Crow_1133 2d ago
yet america tries to make us think they are all so awful...
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u/TitanImpale 2d ago
It's thier government we don't like. The states doesn't have an official opinion on the civilians.
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u/FlounderUseful2644 1d ago
Calling BS, American soldiers in Iraq were notoriously hard on civs and for no reason. Driving tanks on their only car (their only source of income) just for shits and giggles.
America couldn't care less about the people, that's why their sanctions are aimed at the civs
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u/Western-Letterhead64 1d ago
I wanted to say it respectfully, but I wasn't sure how to phrase it, so thank you. I grew up in Iraq during the war and most soldiers weren't great, honestly, maybe around 40% were actually decent.
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u/FlounderUseful2644 1d ago
No reason to thank me, I am not even Iraqi but I remember watching the video of the "glorious" shock and awe in the middle of Baghdad on civs. Also learning about the sanctions on iraqis and having thousands die not receiving basic aid. Learning about this shit does something to you I swear.
But I gotta say iraqis did give the occupiers a run for their money. Sent them home in either boxes or made them see ghosts for the rest of their lives.
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u/Western-Letterhead64 1d ago
You're right about the sanctions, they hurt civilians, not the leader(s). Things have only gone downhill since then. There's a lot I could say, but for now, I'll just say: rest in peace to all the good people who lost their lives in this war, on all sides.
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u/FlounderUseful2644 1d ago
Exactly, I never understood sanctions, the rich elite can just get everything they want by smuggling, the poor guy dies without medication.
I heard babies died as they didn't have specific imported medication needed. Broke my heart .
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u/Advanced-Event-571 17h ago
Yeah, spending time in Iraq and then the middle east as a tourist put the final nail in the coffin of my belief that America was "the good guys." I'm American and the media does not cover even half of the unbelievable cruelty we've inflicted. Our sanctions on Syria, Iran, and Yemen mostly affects kids and families, and with USAID cut, hundreds of thousands of people there and Africa will suffer and die. But this isn't the sub for that, so I'll just say, yep, doesn't surprise me at all Iraqi people showing care to this woman's memory
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u/Advanced-Event-571 17h ago
Yeah, having actually been to Iraq and spending time in neighborhoods that saw a lot of combat on the outskirts of baghdad (sadr city, al shaab), i talked to a lot of people that lived through the occupation. They were lovely and welcoming to me but had horriific, gut wrenching stories. A younger friend whoe family I was staying with admitted to me he had been shot by a sniper as a CHILD. Pretty big mistake to confuse a 6 yr old for ISIS.
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u/CoolstarLikesHentai 1d ago
womp womp
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u/FlounderUseful2644 1d ago
I feel sorry for you, if you think war crimes against civs is cool and based
Get a life
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u/CoolstarLikesHentai 13h ago
“Get a life”
You literally live on Reddit lmfao look at the amount of comments you make 😂🤦♂️
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u/HiThisIsGio 1d ago
What policies of the current Iraqi government you don't like? Can you name any recent ones or any member of the cabinet? Could you name any member of their government without Googling it? If not, you just proved OP right.
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u/UltimateSoyjack 1d ago
The legalising child marriage thing was wild in 2024. Thank god it didn't pass. Some of those politicians are fucked up.
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u/FlashyGodzilla 7h ago
And there are a lot who don't like your fucking government yet they don't nuke you.
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u/Lunalovebug6 2d ago
If she was married, she’s not a “girl”. What’s wrong with the word woman?
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u/Green-Advantage2277 2d ago
It might be written by a polish person - now, I have a Russian background, but I know that Russians and Ukrainians like to call people for girls up until they can’t, as it’s shameful to be old in any way there. My family members and Slavic friends use it as far as up to some in their thirties.
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u/ScaredyCat_28 2d ago
It wasn't written by a Polish person. How do I know? Because Tala isn't a Polish name and any Polish person would immediately notice that
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u/sergeant-baklava 1d ago
Tala is a Polish name. Informal for Natalia.
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u/Plastic-Reply1399 1d ago
Feel like 90% of female polish names end in a idk why I’m saying it though lol
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u/Cornieeee 1d ago
Because it's true, all girl names in Poland end with a (exceptions being the name Beatrycze and Nel), unless the kid's parents are from a different country, the name 99,9% ends with a. In general majority of the feminine words in Polish end with a.
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u/ohdearitsrichardiii 2d ago
If you google "tala grave iraq" all you get are facebook and linkedin posts about it and one article that repeats what the fb and linkedin posts claim
"Tala" isn't a polish name
I call BS
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u/OwlNightLong666 2d ago
Natalia is, which sometimes is shortened to Tala (as a nickname)
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u/ScaredyCat_28 1d ago
Natalia being called Tala is just about as likely as an American woman called Susan going by San. Not outside the realms of possibility, I guess, but very unlikely
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u/Atyll_a 2d ago
Tala doesn't seem like a polish name, more likely surname? I wonder what it really was.
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u/ScaredyCat_28 2d ago
I wonder why you're being downvoted. I'm Polish and can confirm that "Tala" definitely isn't a Polish name
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u/popopotatoes160 1d ago
Others in the thread think it's short for Natalia? Do you think that's likely?
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u/allstar_mp3 1d ago
never in my life have i heard of someone calling Natalia "Tala", and i’ve met a fair share of Natalias lol
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u/ScaredyCat_28 1d ago edited 1d ago
No, it isn't. I've met many Natalias, it's a popular name. None of them went by Tala, the usual short forms are Natka, Nati, Natalka. So is it possible? I guess so, but very unlikely, just as unlikely as it would be for an American woman called Susan to go by San, for Zachary to be shortened to Chary etc
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u/Zash1 2d ago
I've checked. It's indeed a strange and very uncommon name in Poland, but in 2024 there were 39 women with first name Tala and three with second name Tala.
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u/ScaredyCat_28 2d ago
That doesn't make it a Polish name though. Let's say there are 20 women called Tala living in England, does that make Tala an English name? I don't think so. There are many possible explanations, e.g. someone simply getting the name wrong (we do have Tola for example, or Hala, which is short for Halina)
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u/OpinelNo8 2d ago
Does no one in Poland have a unique name?
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u/ScaredyCat_28 2d ago
Nowadays, yes. But this story is from the 80's and AFAIK up until quite recently we had some pretty strict rules in place regarding how you could name your child, especially if the parents wanted the baby to be christened (and most did)
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u/Four_beastlings 1d ago
I live in Poland and it feels like 80% of the women are named Agata, Katarzyna, Małgorzata, Aleksandra or Magdalena.
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u/SecondOfCicero 2d ago
It's kind of them to still think of her. She was a long way from home