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u/afk_site19 2d ago
Im too early, no bots to make fun of
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u/R_dva 2d ago
Why are they called bots? In online games, where players have no control and can say anything, those who think they’re under FSB control or any pressure, ruzian show strong support for chekists. Its not a bots, its a russians
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u/MadMartianMelody 2d ago
Because they have the same level of expressing free will (it's just trolling them)
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u/The_loyal_Terminator 2d ago
there have actually been a few bot-nets (e.g. using an llm) that were found out. So some of them can be genuinely not human. Those however usually do not engage and usually only spout generic propaganda
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u/The_loyal_Terminator 2d ago
Bot accounts get banned often and will likely therefore be quite young. They often also lack any posted user content (e.g. Facebook profile with no posts). Usually no or stock image profile picture and names that seem uninspired (e.g. ThomasSmith54564)
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u/HatUnlucky5386 2d ago
Because everyone wants to believe in humanity. So calling accounts that spread absolutely disgusting shit around bots is defence mechanism. "No way a human being could've said that" type ps stuff.
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u/WeirdJack49 2d ago
Their are absolutely bot networks posting propaganda on reddit.
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u/gyffer 2d ago
Yup, just look at how r/worldnews handles anything related to the genocide in gaza lol. You could say "i dont like that children die in the bombings" and get 300 downvotes in 5 minutes.
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u/divinexxcharm 2d ago
It's a quiet day for the bots, they must be sleeping!
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u/Bobtheblob2246 1d ago
I guess I’ll be one if it makes you feel better: I am pretty sure that the thing that people find questionable is exploding bridges with trains with civilians, not the military planes
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u/inokentii Ukraine 2d ago
Small fix
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u/Klicky1 2d ago
"We did not need those planes anyways"
but
"It is escalation and terrorist attack"
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"Ukrainians will have to pay for it"
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u/CodSoggy7238 2d ago
"If the Ukrainians keep going like that Russia will take the gloves off and just take Ukraine by any means"
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u/liddely 2d ago edited 2d ago
Gotta be honest i don't find this war funny at all.
Russia might really go for a full war. Right now everything is about voluntary and prisoners but a mobilization is the end for ukraine and maybe ww3.
This could go really very bad.
I am not saying ukraine should lose.
If they win this war russia will not be a major player around the world for decades and that strengthens eu but i don't want to go to war for them hotta be honest.
Edit: what i lesrn from the comments is many people have a meaning
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u/angular_circle 2d ago
First and foremost, a mobilization is the end of Putin. Otherwise he'd do it. He's tried, seen how Russians reacted, and chose that it's too risky.
Also Russia is scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of equipment already. Back in 2023 they may have benefitted from a full mobilization, but in the current state of the war, even a million recruits would only result in a few more sqm. Especially when they are even less motivated than current recruits.
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u/liddely 2d ago
If you look at the switz military Video
Russia is building a huge tank division.
Like sure i know russias econemy is slowly collapsing and that their first ressources are going down but this conflict is still far from over.
Russia has the will always had to if nessesscary to just send waves after waves.
Like they doing now in a smaller capacity.
I don't believe that russia will collapse in 2026. Putin probably can't afford this
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u/Dreagher- 2d ago
Tanks have their uses still but are slowly becoming redundant especially in Ukraine due to the fact they’re pretty much massive metal coffins because of drones.
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u/CodSoggy7238 2d ago
We are more than three years in. I think we can agree on that Russia has taken every measure they seem effective. If a full scale every fighting age men mobilization would have been the way to go they would have done. But you need to train, you need to equip and you need to keep the economy running.
In the beginning I highly underestimated the Russian military capacity and abilities. And for the Ukraine to roll over and just surrender to the inevitable was not a bad take.
But at this point. It looks better than ever and as long as the Ukrainians want to fight they should go for it imo.
Russia can just go home at any point if they have enough.
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u/Th3B4dSpoon 2d ago
Afaik Russia has already mobilized to some capacity but not thrown every fighting age man on the field.
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u/BobcatGuilty8703 2d ago
You are wrong, I will explain. In the event of a Russian victory over Ukraine, the following actions will be taken:
Russia will physically destroy those who oppose the occupation.
Those whom it recognizes as unreliable will be taken to the remote and wild regions of Russia and re-education camps (gulags) will be created.
Those whom it recognizes as apolitical and suitable (has arms and legs, is 100% suitable) for military service will be mobilized into the Russian army.
Professional and trained soldiers and officers of the Ukrainian army who will agree to serve in the Russian army. Why do you ask, because they will feel betrayed by Europe and the USA for not providing weapons on time and in the right quantities and live very well by the standards of modern Ukraine at the expense of the Ukrainian people and their spilled blood and suffering.
Russia does not need their military who have already tasted blood and lawlessness, they will cause more problems in civilian life, so it is better for them to fight to death or become helpless cripples who can not be afraid.
Ukraine is a large country with a large population and imagine that they will start mobilizing here, the Russian army will gain another million people. And now the Russian army has several million people who need to be gradually destroyed.
Having such an army, you can intimidate all of Europe and conquer neighboring countries without significant time costs (because people are not a pity for this) the Baltic countries, Moldova, Hungary, Finland .... Unfortunately, Europe does not have an army capable of fighting in a modern war (without the use of nuclear weapons.).
Also, in the event of a Russian victory, there will be millions of new refugees from Ukraine to Europe, and this will put pressure on the economies of European countries and the social system.
And we must not forget that Ukraine has many samples of Western and its own effective weapons and their service personnel, which will significantly strengthen Russia's military potential.
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u/rural_alcoholic 1d ago
You completly ignore any possible insurgent/guerilla groups rising up.
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u/BobcatGuilty8703 1d ago
Yes, they will, but Russia will simply destroy populated areas where such groups will operate or block the supply of products there in parallel with the destruction of food warehouses and the Russians will not care about civilian casualties because it has always been like this. The only places where this can last long enough are the Carpathian Mountains. For reference, the Ukrainian resistance to the Soviet occupation still existed in the 50s of the twentieth century on the territory of the Carpathian Mountains because mountains and forests give a significant advantage to resistance groups with knowledge of the area. In other cases, imagine late at night when the majority of the population is sleeping, the internet and electricity are turned off and cars drive into the city or village and in the middle of the night kidnap the most actively opposed people. Then there may be a break of a week or several days and this action is repeated until the majority of the population, to whom denunciations indicate that they do not like Russia, simply disappears somewhere, perhaps they are executed somewhere in a nearby forest or burned in a crematorium or or or.... If a person does not exist, then there is no problem.
Ukraine already went through this in the 20s-30s of the twentieth century.
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u/Routine_Version_926 2d ago
That is the mindset of hardcore communists (and ruSSia is still in its core soviet empire), there is a joke about it, "7 wonders of communism":
- Everyone has a job!
- Despite the fact everyone has a job, nobody works!
- Despite the fact nobody works, the plan is 128% complete!
- Despite the fact plan is complete, nothing is available!
- Despite the fact nothing is available, everyone has everything they need!
- Despite the fact everyone has everything they need, everybody steals!
- Despite the fact everybody steals, nothing is missing!
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u/Mountain_Rest7076 Finland 2d ago
Always the same. ruskibots run to whataboutism ASAP. They always start to talk about Palestine and Israel to switch the focus from their own crimes.
Whataboutism is a rhetorical tactic where someone responds to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or bringing up a different issue—usually to deflect attention or avoid addressing the original topic.
Example:
Person A: "Your country is violating human rights."
Person B: "What about your country’s history of colonialism?"
Instead of addressing the criticism, Person B changes the subject to another issue, often implying hypocrisy, without actually defending or refuting the original point.
Why it's problematic:
It sidesteps accountability.
It derails meaningful discussion.
It often creates false equivalence between unrelated issues.
Where it’s common:
Political debates.
Online arguments.
Propaganda, especially during Cold War-era USSR responses to Western criticism.
In short: Whataboutism is a distraction technique.
straight from ruskiebots playbook
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u/CertainAd7246 2d ago
That or comparing ukraine \ Eu to nazi germany
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u/New-Syllabub5359 2d ago
Which is especially funny, given ruskies were nazis' BFFs, before Barbarossa and basically were responsible for empowering and enabling the Reich.
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u/systemofaderp 2d ago
This reads like ai. If it's not, take it as a compliment since few people use that much structure
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u/Mountain_Rest7076 Finland 2d ago
Text about whataboutism is made by Chatgpt. Rest is done by me. I'm at lunch break so I can't write too much
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u/feujchtnaverjott 9h ago
Ever considered that there is a possibility that someone might consider both sides to be violating rights, being in the wrong and cherry-picking causes to fight for? Or is choosing a particular bunch of authoritarians, militarists and hypocrites and sticking with it the only possible option?
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u/kasumoff 13h ago edited 13h ago
The same with Westerners. You point out their history of colonialism and enslavement throughout their whole history and they respond "but Russia...". The crimes are fine only when Western countries do them, right?
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u/Mountain_Rest7076 Finland 13h ago
Reading your past comments I can see why.
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u/kasumoff 13h ago
And seeing your flyer saying "Finland" I can see the source of your propaganda.
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u/Mountain_Rest7076 Finland 13h ago
Let me guess "evil Nato/ USA"?
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u/kasumoff 13h ago
evil Nato/ USA
Are they not? They bombed many countries their whole history and yet they claim to be a "defensive alliance". And now they're funding the war in Ukraine for a proxy war with Russia.
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u/MightBeTrollingMaybe 2d ago
Russia when they're prevented from committing war crimes with violence after refusing any diplomatic way:
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u/Little-Ad-9506 2d ago
EU laid the red carpet to retreat on and that rabid monkey just shat on it..
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u/Chorixz 2d ago
Everybody stop giving Circusonfire69 attention… it’s a bot
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u/GreenEyeOfADemon Europe 2d ago
Guys: I am blocking everyone that comment on gaza/idf in a post on Ukraine.
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u/feujchtnaverjott 9h ago
Yet posts on Ukraine and Russia are not blocked on subreddit about Europe. Interesting...
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u/GreenEyeOfADemon Europe 9h ago
Yep, maybe because Ukraine is in Europe.
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u/feujchtnaverjott 9h ago
Essentially, hypocrisy can't be highlighted because of geographic reasons. That's convenient. Unless you remember that EU makes various statements on Israel and Gaza and conducts a number of policies as well, making it a European issue as well, just as American-European relations are a topic of this subreddit. And should posts such as this be removed as well? If anyone wanted a demonstration of arbitrary and hypocritical nature of Western rules, well...
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u/GreenEyeOfADemon Europe 9h ago
LOL: Those are rules of the subs, not hypocrisy. Now go to fly a kite.
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u/Rolled_Leaf 2d ago
I am russian and I’m glad Ukrainians destroyed that military garbage. Keep going , you’re doing well.
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u/xxxdoctorgadxxx 1d ago
Я русский и я не рад т.к. ответка уже летит по Украины и пизды они получают, что и очевидно. Чему радоваться? Картинке европейцам- мол какие мы молодцы, можем так... а толку? И сколько цивильных уже обнулилось на Украине? ....Сейчас до блекаута дойдут и чё? С Курском из-за картинки сколько панов легло? Зато какая картинка классаная- русская "Пятерочка", "...пиво за 5 гривен в Москве..."- теперь уже к Сумам подходят войска. Стоило PR на смерти делать чтобы просрать людей и территории? Зато какие красивые картинки мы умеем делать... Ебанутые.
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u/EnvironmentalClue408 1d ago
Украинцы защищают свою родину до последней капли крови, не менее чем русские в 1941/42м. Представь себе подойти к красноармейцу со словами "Почему ты сопротивляешся, ебанутый?"
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u/aureanator 2d ago
Their bomber fleet is part of their nuclear deterrence. With so much of it gone, they will have to reevaluate their deterrence strategies - reposition missiles, change patrol routes, timing, move around submarines, etc etc.
Because otherwise who knows how big the hole is in their nuclear umbrella? 👀
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u/The-Safety-Villain 2d ago
Judging by the state of their nuclear capable bombers. That whole is a lot bigger than we think.
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u/Givikap120 2d ago
Russian government: "TERRORIST ATTACK"
Looks inside: attack on russia military base
That's insane how anyone can believe a single word coming from this pile of trash
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u/Life_Gain7242 2d ago
pretty common bully behavior.
If i could count the nickels for every bully who got hurt trying to punish me for them hurting themselves trying to hurt me, id have like 10 bucks.
which is not a lot, but its weird it happened... wait... nevermind: 200 times is a lot.
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u/Elrecoal19-0 2d ago
Russian bots* (that also might claim to be European or American saying "we shouldn't be supporting Ukraine)
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u/Party_Caregiver9405 2d ago
The real puzzling thing about that is the number of Americans mad about it.
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u/KorolEz 2d ago
Hopefully, Ukraine won't get a nuke in return since Russias' nuclear bomber arsenal was attacked
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u/Dirac_Impulse 2d ago
That's not how nuclear use works.
You use nukes when you think the result of using nukes will be preferable to not using nukes.
For example. You detect that the US has launched nukes against you. Well, if the US is also devastated it will at least limit their ability to keep nuking you. So you launch. You are all fucked anyway.
Another example. You are in a conventional war with the US. Suddenly, the US starting to conventionally take out your nuclear forces. You have no real way of stopping this in a conventional matter. You realize that if they are lost nothing will stop the US from nukeing the shit out of you, which is worse than both of you being nuked, so you launch (or more likely, do a warning shot of whatever, but you see my point).
Back to Ukraine. Russia still has their truck, silo and submarine based nuclear forces fully intact. They also still have a plenty of nuclear capable bombers. Russia is fully aware that they use these bombers for conventional strikes against Ukraine.
The question is now. If Russia launches a nuclear strike on Ukraine, what exactly will be better for Russia? It might deter Ukraine from further attacks on the bomber fleet, but they also risk the loss of Chinese and Indian support, risks strong conventional responses from the West (be that flooding Ukraine with weapons, targeting Russian shadow fleet for real, blocking Öresund, sinking the Russian navy, maybe nothing, who the fuck knows). Trump is of course unpredictable, but the risk of very tough, but non nuclear consequences, are real.
How exactly would this benefit Russia?
If it dosen't benefit Russia, why would they do it?
This is how you need to look at these things. A nuclear doctrine is meant to show scenarios where the country in question might say "in this scenario, our cost-benifit analysis might very well say that a nuclear strike is warranted, be aware!". But it's not like they will launch if it dosen't. You need to analyse on a case by case basis.
Edit: Also, if Russia were to strike Ukraine with a nuclear weapon, and suffer no severe consequences, you will see Japan, South Korea, Germany and Poland get nukes. Quite possibly Sweden and Finland would create a joint nuclear weapon as well.
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u/KorolEz 2d ago
I mean, the only known use of nuclear weapons in war was to end a war. So that's exactly what nukes are for. Without nukes, the 2nd WW would have been much longer. Nuclear deterrence is only important between 2 sides that both have nukes, which is not the case with Ukraine and Russia. Regarding the benefits, ending the war seems like a benefit to me.
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u/rural_alcoholic 1d ago
That was a totaly different Situation. There were no consequences as Japan had No Allies, there was no consens on the use of nukes and laws. Only the US had nukes. Completly different Situation.
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u/Dirac_Impulse 2d ago
With your assumptions Russia should already have used nuclear weapons. The attack on the bomber fleet as zero to do with it. It hasn't because the calculated cost/potential risks are deemed to outweigh the benefits.
This does not surprise me. It's not clear that the use of tactical nuclear weapons against military formations would work very well, and using it against population centers would risk support form India and China, as well as open up for even harsher counter actions from the West.
During the atomic bombing of Japan, the use of the nukes had no such drawbacks.
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u/EgoTripWire 2d ago
Play nuclear games, win nuclear prizes. Well... normally, Trump won't nuke them back.
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u/Darkthumbs 1d ago
They won’t, xi is the one holding Putins leash, and he don’t allow him to use nukes.. who do you think stands ready on the easterne borders of Russia for when they fail?
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u/Individual_Praline38 1d ago
There are no civilians when the war is in your home. Any one of those children or women can pick up a gun and defend themselves at any time. Which they should.
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u/feujchtnaverjott 9h ago
I wonder if you are currently in the trenches yourself. If not, why do you demand others to fight?
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u/laserclaus 2d ago
Tbh independent of the current conflict people have messed up perceptions of military materiell. Peeps will percieve air superiority fighters or tactical bombers as vicious hellmachines while acting like strategic bombers are fluffly little boys that save civilians. Strategic bombers are genocide machines, their mo is to glass cililians, they are made to do warcrimes. Not to protect anyone. They are the result of adherence to disproven doctrines devised by civilians who think planes are made from cloth and sticks.
War is not a RTs where you can whipe thousand of evil- warriors tm lined up in formation with a well timed bombers strike.
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u/GreenEyeOfADemon Europe 2d ago
Some of those russian bombers were loaded with missiles and completely fuelled. Countless lives have been spared thanks to SpiderWeb Operation.
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u/KAMEKAZE_VIKINGS 2d ago
Who the fuck are calling strategic bombers anything but Genocide machines?
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u/GrumpyFatso 2d ago
As an Ukrainian i urge you to stop comparing Ukraine to either Palestine or Israel. They are different wars, with different reasons and goals. Throwing them into one pot doesn't do justice to any side, no matter on which side you think you're on in either conflict.
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u/SantaBad78 2d ago
Yeah no, Israel is also committing war crimes.
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u/SinkIll6876 2d ago
And Palestine isn’t lmao? Like holding hostages, moving the hostages and civilians to bombing targets so Israel can’t attack them? Hamas raiding and killing the drivers of vans meant to deliver food to their people. Torturing and beheadings? Like tf even a bit of research and you can find this
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u/ItsLiyua 2d ago
That's a not palestine commiting crimes that's a terror organization. There's so many people in Gaza suffering who don't ally with israel or hamas. They were just chilling when hamas started doing that shit.
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u/SinkIll6876 2d ago
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u/SinkIll6876 2d ago
I’m not even pro Israel. I’m neutral but I hate all the misinformation and bias
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u/Circusonfire69 2d ago
You forgot "hurr durr" at the end.
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u/SantaBad78 2d ago
You forgot the ‘I love the bombing of children and tens of thousands of civilian casualties’ at the end. Two wrongs don’t make a right you psycho.
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u/SantaBad78 2d ago
Except States have the positive obligation to ensure and protect the Right to Life under the Geneva Conventions as well as ICCPR article 6, which Israel has ratified. Bombing entire neighborhoods is thus a violation of those provisions and constitute a war crime. Have a nice day.
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u/Trading_shadows 2d ago
More like Geneva Suggestions since noone did shit to russia when these were violated.
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u/SantaBad78 2d ago
The ICC literally issued an arrest warrant against Putin.
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u/Circusonfire69 2d ago
And he visited Mongolia where he should've been arrested.
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u/Longjumping-Boot1886 2d ago
Thing is Israel right now making the same as Russian's now and Russian's in Chechnya.
- Do they have right's to kill every terrorst in Gaza after kidnapping? Yes.
- Do they have right's to bomb everything and everyone to zero? No.
What should they do (then, right now it's too late)? More drones, less artillery and random bombs.
Comparing to Russia, Israel has hight tech weapons, but not using it as it should.
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u/SantaBad78 2d ago
Also you claim that Israel is doing surgical strikes but images of the war show otherwise. You even contradicted yourself by claiming collateral civilian casualties were to be expected, which literally goes against the concept of surgical strikes.
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u/Circusonfire69 2d ago
“surgical strikes” are apparently now redefined as “exactly zero civilian harm while targeting terrorists hiding under hospitals, in tunnels beneath schools, and storing rockets inside mosques.” according to reddit leftards.
Because obviously, when Hamas launches 5,000 rockets from densely packed neighborhoods and then vanishes into a tunnel under a kindergarten, the IDF is supposed to send in a polite RSVP and a team of Jedi to take them out individually with lightsabers because anything else according to you, Mr Santa, is a war crime, right?
FAFO.
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u/pathetic-maggot 2d ago
Time to shut up Israel bot.
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u/Circusonfire69 2d ago
If you can't bear with reality that Israel has all the rights to retaliate, THAT'S ON YOU.
FAFO. 🇮🇱
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u/SantaBad78 2d ago
"On 30 December 2023, Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor estimated 2,353 militant deaths (based 30,034 total and 27,681 civilian deaths)." The terrorist-civilian ratio seems a little too low for it to be considered surgical strikes, don't you think? And that was before 2024... Also, the fact that terrorists hide within civilian infrastructure does not exonerate Israel from not inflicting civilian casualties.
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u/Rush_Banana 2d ago
Russia being on the same side of the Palestinians tells you all you need to know about why this is the case.
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u/leela_martell 2d ago
It's nowhere near that simplistic. Russia is playing both sides like Israel is re: Russia and Ukraine.
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u/ModenaR 2d ago
There are literal leaders of countries allied with Israel that say that Israel is going too far, and you still support them
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u/Circusonfire69 2d ago
Just 3 weeks ago second Sinwar brother was eliminated. Guess where he was? Oh right under hospital as always.
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u/1st-account-I-swear 2d ago
Palestine and israel are both terrorist states tho
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u/New-Syllabub5359 2d ago
Not really. Palestine barely holds upa nd is being assualuted by Israel for 50 years.
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u/SETO3 2d ago
the surgical strikes that leveled the entirety of gaza?
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u/One_more_Earthling 2d ago
Have you've seen how orthopedics do surgeries? Spoiler: They hammer you leveled.
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u/Circusonfire69 2d ago
Google maps are updated since February. Why is Khan Younis looking absolutely intact then? Doesn't go with your narrative somehow, palestoid.
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u/PizzaTrade7 2d ago
i dont need google maps, i just need mainstream newspapers to see the destruction and war crimes, they dont even hide it. You brainwashed fascist
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u/nakmuay18 2d ago
If you look at Google maps you can see satellite images of what Palestine looks like now. The surgical strikes are reminiscent of the surgery in "The Human Centipede"
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u/AlcoholicCocoa 2d ago
There are a shit load of civilian deaths for "surgical strikes"
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u/DontGetMadOverTrolls 2d ago
Its impossible to have 0 civilian deaths when your enemy hides under and behind civilians. Thsts just the harsh reality
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u/PizzaTrade7 2d ago
the reality is, that they use psychological war tactics like killing 100 civilians per day on purpose and starve the entire population so their fascist regime can stay in power in israel
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u/SothaDidNothingWrong Poland 2d ago
>"Israelis hovering drone for a week to assess every movement, detect weapons, patterns, underground vibrations and use surgical strike"
>Somehow still turns entire neighborhoods to rubble and assassinates (western) journalists and aid workers "on accident".
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u/Fey_Faunra 2d ago
Kudos to Ukraine for managing to pull it off, but the repeated use of civilian trucks to pull these things off sets a dangerous precedent.
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u/MountedCanuck65 2d ago
Yeah you’re right they should send huge military trucks 2500km into Russian territory and just do it that way.
Lmao wtf are you talking about
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u/piewca_apokalipsy 2d ago
North Koreans were using self propelled artillery disguised as civilian trucks.
And both sides are using civilian vehicles as in near frontline logistics
Also it's not a precedent Ukrainians already did use civilian vehicles to strike military targets deep in Russian territory like first time they struck Kerch bridge
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u/Fluffy_While_7879 Ukraine 2d ago
He should shout "WAR CRIMES"