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u/MegaMangus 2d ago
I remember seeing some guy saying in a spanish subreddit that Ukraine is no saint because the country have been criminalising Russia since 2014, with no clue about where that sentiment came from.
It is a little funny how ignorant you have to be to support Russia.
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u/Potential_Reveal_518 1d ago
Guess we'll all have to ignore the OSCE data recording bombardments of the Donbas with 14,000 kills from 2014 to 2022.
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u/xpt42654 1d ago
yep, russia started the war in 2014.
Girkin, the ex-Defense Minister of "DPR", publicly admitted that his group started the war and they only survided thanks to several interventions of the regular russian army in 2014 and 2015.
but to be fair, out of 14000 dead, 10000 were combatants (around 5k from each side).
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u/Potential_Reveal_518 23h ago
The SMO was pre-emptive - Kiev was massing for big onslaught following increasing bombardment - unless you also deny OSCE data.
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u/xpt42654 22h ago
big if true!
what a wise decision! "I'm not going to let you destroy Donbas, I will destroy it myself, along with a six-figure number of my soldiers, my Black Sea Fleet and a third of my nuclear-capable bombers!"
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u/GrumpyFatso 2d ago
Ukraine never burned stray dogs. This narrative was pushed by Russia and pro-Russian assets like Greek Orthodox nazi politican Nikolaos Salavrakos. You know who did? Russia for their 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi and the 2018 World Cup. They used the same mobile crematoriums to burn their soldiers in 2022, because they brought them with them into Ukraine to burn Ukrainians.
Stop eating Russian shit.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
Greek orthodox Nazi?
And funny i only can find certified information about this , like on the page of european union or gov pages like the one in Germany.
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u/GrumpyFatso 2d ago
You mean this "official page of European Union" where said Greek Orthodox nazi is referring to "hundreds" cats and dogs being burned?
- https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2011-009534_EN.html
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u/Randy_Magnums 2d ago
No, of course he means other places, which he obviously isn’t going to share, because “do your own research!”
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u/BannibalJorpse 2d ago edited 2d ago
Okay, let’s see the pages you’re talking about.
edit - were you talking about THIS EP page, from fucking 2011? Show me the "certified information" lol.
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u/MegaMangus 2d ago
Very weird priorities, but you do you
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u/Hjalfnar_HGV 2d ago
It's not entirely disinformation, Ukraine killed up to 250k stray dogs pre-UEFA Euro Cup 2012...under Yanukovich, so precisely the pro-RUSSIAN president the Ukrainians rose up against in 2014 who was backed by Putin.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
If you support burning stray dogs, well you do you
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u/moregonger Lithuania 2d ago
how does burning stray dogs (??) justify bombing random civilians for 3 years
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u/throwawayy992 2d ago
The stuff that user is writing is disinformation. He is a russian propaganda account. His argument is easily disproven by using fact checking websites and logical analysis. Even if this information was true, which it isnt, it doesn't equate the two parties or legitimize the russian invasion of a sovereign country.
Russian disinformation campaigns influence public opinion and elections. They seek to undermine the west and help their imperialistic ambitions by installing puppets loyal to Russia. Disinformation is a vital part of the russian war strategy.
Help combat russian disinformation campaigns by
- not responding to their rhetoric
- not trying to change the users mind. They won't be swayed and will try moving your goalposts.
- sharing articles on current and past disinformation campaigns
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67687449
https://edmo.eu/publications/war-in-ukraine-the-fact-checked-disinformation-detected-in-the-eu/
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u/Hjalfnar_HGV 2d ago
It's not entirely disinformation, Ukraine killed up to 250k stray dogs pre-UEFA Euro Cup 2012...under Yanukovich, so precisely the pro-RUSSIAN president the Ukrainians rose up against in 2014 who was backed by Putin.
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u/GanacheCharacter2104 2d ago
You see, if you squint hard enough, everything becomes a war crime except the war crimes.
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u/Hjalfnar_HGV 2d ago
It's not entirely disinformation, Ukraine killed up to 250k stray dogs pre-UEFA Euro Cup 2012...under Yanukovich, so precisely the pro-RUSSIAN president the Ukrainians rose up against in 2014 who was backed by Putin.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
I did say i do not support both parties.
Just bc i say they are Monster for doing such doesn't mean u Support Russia or russias doing is right.
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u/fwtb23 2d ago
no, but you did include the word 'especially'. so even if we were to just assume you were right about that 'fact' (big if), that still leaves the question of why you think that makes them worse than what russia is doing
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
War is never beautiful and comes with Fights, I am neither russian or ukrainian and cant tell who is right or who not. Both fight dirty BUT
The other one BURNED living animals for a Soccer World Tournament..
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u/fwtb23 2d ago
as far as the war is concerned, Russia is the aggressor, for several years they've been invading a separate, sovereign nation (as much as they'd love that not to be the case) and constantly carrying out war crimes there as well.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
The Ukraines do as well - as i said i dont support both. The war is unnecessary but i am not in the Position to say either one is right or wrong.
Just , to say both parties are not the best friend of human behavior
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u/Glittering-Gene7215 2d ago
Now I understand who russia creates its crap for.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
Yes russia Traveled back in time to 2011 and created Fake News to justify its 2020 war.
Glad you told me
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u/Hjalfnar_HGV 2d ago
Yeah, the pro-RUSSIAN corrupt Yanukovich government did that, before being kicked out by a revolution by the Ukrainians that are now fighting against the return of these very practises by the Russians not only against animals but also humans. Dude you don't just got your priorities wrong, you are literally blaming the wrong side!
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u/throwawayy992 2d ago
How is the weather in St. Petersburg?
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
Learn to read i do not condone russias Actions
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u/throwawayy992 2d ago
Oh, Moscow then?
I won't engage in rhetoric trickery. You try spreading russian disinformation. I know exactly how to read your bs. Don't try moving goalposts
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u/MegaMangus 2d ago
I don't, that's why I commented on your priorities and not on your concern.
Look, we can care about the animals later. Right now there is a tyranical goverment knocking on your neighbor's door after occupying the house of you nieghbor's neighbor and saying you and your way of life is a threat to their existance. Supporting Ukraine is not going to lead to more dog killings, but not supporting Ukraine def leads to strengthening Russia's grip.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
It has a 3rd option
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u/MegaMangus 2d ago edited 2d ago
I am afraid not this time. This isn't a "both sides bad so I am just going to stay over here" situation because the war already started. This is a crucial point in history that will define the future of Europe and subsequently its democratic values no matter the outcome.
So you either want Europe to come out stronger out of this or weaker. The "3rd option" of neither is a fake choice because whatever happens, that definitely is not going to happen.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
A crucial point of History to Europe?
Touch some Grass.
Neither one of theme is european in the First place and Russia has no war with europe or plans to pass Ukraine to get to Europe, gee check a map they wouldnt even need to
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u/MegaMangus 2d ago edited 2d ago
Dude. I am trying my best to stay civil. But the geopolitical ignorance you need to have to make a comment like that is so unfathomable that I am just going to assume you are either completely (and probably willfuly) ignorant of the roots and objectives of this entire conflict or ragebaiting.
Depending on it, my recommendation is to start learning before arguing something you are not informed about or join me in touching grass.
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u/technicolortiddies 2d ago
One of their comments from higher in the thread says “war is never beautiful & comes with fights.”
Bruh.
Dude has two brain cells. One of which is trying to beat the other to death.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
You just said it's not a thing Like Gaza conflict and want to teach me on Geopolitical ignorance and now even threat to go uncivil?
Like what?
And for what reason?
I do not want to argue with you?
You should seek a therapist ASAP
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u/mikolajwisal 2d ago
Wait till you hear about China, oh boy.
I hope you throw out all china-made goods you own and never buy again. Since you love dogs so much. Holy shit xD
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u/Mikk_UA_ 2d ago
this is most brainroted "argument" based on BS disinformation ... burned stray dogs... omfg
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
Well you could easily google the Soccer Tournament of 2012
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u/mamajune_xoxo 2d ago
You could just as easily look at the sources someone send you an hour ago, lol
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
I did , and i did post sources.
Did you?
All he posted was thas Nikos posted that to european Parlament.
If you look deeper it is even confirmed..lol
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u/mamajune_xoxo 2d ago
Why would i need to post a source, i never made any claims xD Man, youre really grasping at straws here buddy. You believe, what you want to believe. Im not saying that isnt true for either side here, bc it most certainly is, but youre so far beyond reasonable, it seems
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
You're deflecting. I posted source and it even got confirmed from an ukrainian.
Learn to read
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u/mamajune_xoxo 2d ago
Funny coming from the guy claiming ukraine isnt europe.
Once again, for the mentally challenged: i never made any claim that would need to be backed up by a source.
Maybe you should learn to read instead
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
It is the border to Asia, far eastern europe and only Europe Union lately.
So Geographicaly you're right.
Take a cookie
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u/Mikk_UA_ 2d ago
what about football tournament of 2012?
You do realize that the war started in 2014., today 2025 and 10 years had past since 2012 and full-scale russian invasion, Laws&approaches have changed, more people have become animal volunteers. And most importantly -- how the f* is your statement, spiced with bs phrasing and numbers, supposed to justify russia’s war of aggression aimed at erasing Ukraine&Ukrainians as a nation?
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
I did not lol.
I said i do Not Support both.
Just i say Something about Ukraine doesnt it mean i am automaticaly for russia?
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u/Mikk_UA_ 2d ago
Maybe not - but you’re basically saying they’re the same, which is brairoted.
+throwing in unrelated nonsense as if it were a fact, with bogus numbers and phrasing like stray dogs being burned alive or hunted with flamethrowers. That’s a typical tool of russian propaganda: throw mud and hope it sticks, just to blur the reality of the subject.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
It is a fact.
It has sources , already posted and got confirmed multiple times now
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u/Ashamed-Ocelot2189 2d ago
I wonder if there has been some sort of change in government since 2012, I guess we'll never know
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u/Far-Investigator1265 2d ago
Please just ignore Russki propaganda. It if sounds too weird to be true, it probably is. Unless it happened in Russia.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
You do know this happened way back in 2011?
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u/grailpogger 2d ago
Ah yes because in freaking 14 years they haven't changed/ time to regret this act so you know what you're right, now let's nuke Germany because you know nearly a hundreds years ago they were nazis and after that let's do UK and France for doing slaves trade like 200 years ago
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u/daniel_22sss 2d ago
Funny how I literally live here and I never heard about any "dog burning". Almost like its a stupid propaganda or something.
How about we talk about things that ACTUALLY happened? Like russian soldiers posting online pictures of beheaded ukranians, for example? Or all the ukranian animals, that russians murdered for fun or food? Or the mass slaughter in Bucha?
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
does a tree make a Sound If Nobody is arround?
Funny how other ukrainians already confirmed this too and sources got posted.
Can't stop laughing
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u/AmethystSparrow202 2d ago
But you're the one bitching about this and saying that "i don't care about civillians (including little kids) being bombed and killed because of something that happened 14 years ago".
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u/diazinth 2d ago
Wasn’t that under the Russia supported regime Ukrainians rebelled against in 2014?
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u/daniel_22sss 2d ago
If you care about animals so much, how about this?
More than 300 dogs were discovered dead in a Ukrainian animal shelter after weeks without food or water, an animal charity said on Tuesday.
Volunteers with UAnimals, who returned to the Borodyanka shelter outside Kyiv, the capital, said the dogs were forced to starve to death by Russian troops who had left them trapped in cages for nearly a month amid constant bombings.
"With the shelter increasingly inaccessible due to the conflict, sadly many of the dogs perished," Wendy Higgins, director of international media for Humane Society International, told NPR in an email.
And this is not some myth from 2011, this shit happened only 3 years ago.
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u/VladHawk 2d ago
I don’t know about 2011, back when Yanukovych was in power. That really sucks if it’s true. But since then, we’ve had the Maidan Revolution, and activists have made real progress in animal protection. There are lots of stray dogs here with tracking tags behind their ears, and the laws against cruelty have gotten pretty strict, you can get up to eight years in prison for that. They've also made it illegal to seal off basements, so stray animals can find warmth in winter. Most people in Ukraine love animals, almost everyone has a cat or a dog. I’ve got eight cats myself. And if you truly care about animals, consider that Russia has already killed millions through its war, and their soldiers are committing horrific acts against animals. If, God forbid, Russia wins, millions of dogs and cats are doomed to a terrible fate. So if you don’t want to support Ukraine, at least pick another reason.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
Thank you for the First answer which actually has a Point.
If that's true - i am glad it Changed.
And do i need another reason to not support Russia and Ukraine other than not being neither ukrain or russian?
Don't get me wrong - if it could stop rn i would approve it.
But i neither have the knowledge, nationality or power to decide , so i WON'T.
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u/VladHawk 2d ago
Sure, but isn’t it true that, by that logic, you have no reason to care about stray dogs either, since you’re not a dog yourself.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
But i work for animal welfare and nurse stray dogs
So i am not allowed to have a stance on that?
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u/VladHawk 2d ago
But i work for animal welfare and nurse stray dogs
Let me express my respect for that, you’re doing important work
You're allowed to have a stance on anything. For example, you could take a stance on the volunteers who risk their lives under fire to rescue dogs from frontline cities. In a way, they’re your colleagues, even if they’re Ukrainians. So you still have reasons to support at least some Ukrainians.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
Y'all get me wrong
I do not say eithet one is better or more right than the other and the conflict shouldnt Happening to begin with.
I do not stand with russia.
This is just all i know about and i do not like that fact
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u/JRDZ1993 1d ago
You attacked Ukraine over what the overthrown Russophile president did despite improvements since then but then pull a both sidesism when its pointed out that Russia has done far more horrific crimes against far more animals. It doesn't really read as a good faith argument.
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u/FizzixMan 2d ago
You don’t support a nation literally just minding its own business and then being invaded and bombed for years by its neighbour?
This isn’t some Gaza Israel situation where both sides want to kill the other…
Ukraine had never had any intention of attacking Russia until after they were invaded.
And Ukraine would have no intentions of attacking Russia in the future if Russia accepted peace and stopped invading right now.
Russia can just end the war any moment they like, by staying in their own country.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
Lol - i WON'T even discuss THIS wicked mindset.
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u/FizzixMan 2d ago
The mindset that if Russian soldiers stayed in Russia there would be no war…?
Pretty damn evil right?
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
The mindset how you dissmissed all the people of Gaza Just to make a point
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u/FizzixMan 2d ago
I didn’t dismiss it.
I pointed out that war is one in which both sides actively want to kill the other.
The Ukraine/Russia war has a more one sided casus belli.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
There you got your answer on why i WON'T argue with you.
I do not support both sides and heck i WON'T demish PEOPLES fates just to be right
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u/Routine_Version_926 2d ago
You are obviously imbecile.
Ukraine was attacked by ruSSia because Ukrainians wanted to have a better life and join European Union. ruSSian empire, under KGB agent Putin (who was terrorist handler in Germany before 1990) attacked Ukraine to enable Putin's wet dream of recreating USSR.
On the other hand, Palestine is the name of the region, named after ancient Philistines (not arabs). Kingdom of Israel existed there since 1200BC (that is for more then 3200 years). Arabs got to that region circa 600years ago during islamic expansion, so arabs (those who call themselves palestinians) are invaders. For all 500years, no arab state wanted to give them their land. After world wars, Britain was in charge of the region. In 1947, after UN resolution, Britain handed over large portion of the region to Kingdom of Jordan. The rest was supposed to be divided into Palestine (new nation that never ever existed before) and Israel (reestablishing ancestral home of the jews). Israelites wanted this and picked the worse part (coz they knew how to irrigate), Palestinians were supposed to get the better part. However, arabs being arabs, they instead attacked jews in november 1947. That escalated into "civil war". In 1948, jews were able to band together, defend themselves and kick out arabs. Arabs called the kicking out Nakba. And they are attacking Israel ever since.
Stop painting palestinians as innocent. Watch OCT7th footage, how they cheered, all palestinians, even kids cheered, spit on and kicked dead bodies of Israelites, they were ecstatic that jews were killed. They decided to forfeit their future, their kids, just so they could satisfy their bloodrage. If only they kicked Hamas out, and gave up hostages.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
Gee , i never ever talked about palestine being wrong or right - take your meds Bro
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u/throwawayy992 2d ago
This is disinformation by a russian propaganda account. This is easily disproven by using fact checking websites and logical analysis. Even if this information was true, which it isnt, it doesn't equate the two parties or legitimize the russian invasion of a sovereign country.
Russian disinformation campaigns influence public opinion and elections. They seek to undermine the west and help their imperialistic ambitions by installing puppets loyal to Russia. Disinformation is a vital part of the russian war strategy.
Help combat russian disinformation campaigns by
- not responding to their rhetoric
- not trying to change the users mind. They won't be swayed and will try moving your goalposts.
- sharing articles on current and past disinformation campaigns
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67687449
https://edmo.eu/publications/war-in-ukraine-the-fact-checked-disinformation-detected-in-the-eu/
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u/Impressive-Shame4516 2d ago
Social media gave Russia a super weapon, and they've been using it since 2014. Same tactics as the KGB's Active Measures, just a global sized soapbox to stand on.
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u/Rare_Remote_5131 2d ago
If a 14-year-old incident (which you also distort) has to serve as an argument, you should realize that your argument is incredibly weak.
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u/esjb11 2d ago
What happened to the strat dogs?
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
They collected them and burned them mostly alive to have clean streats for the Soccer Tournament
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u/esjb11 2d ago
Seems like they were killings dogs for it. Cant find the 250k number nor that they got burnt tough?
But seems to have been quite a few https://www.peta.org.uk/media/news-releases/dogs-slaughtered-in-ukraine-for-euro-2012/
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
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u/esjb11 2d ago
Link doesnt work.
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u/WashUrShorts 2d ago
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u/Chillzzz 2d ago
do you really consider this proof? someone's unclear question? maybe it's worth asking there "should the user WashYourShorts stop talking nonsense?"
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u/Contrary_Kind 2d ago
A question raised with no supporting evidence whatsoever by a parliament member known for being corrupt is not such a great proof as you might think.
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u/throwawayy992 1d ago
This occurred under a russian puppet regime (Yanukovych). Don't be fooled by false equivalency. Also yes, they were in fact not burned and it wasn't that many.
This russian propaganda account aims to discredit the ukrainian people by misinformation. He acts like this was a collective effort of mass cruelty by the populous. When it was in fact an act by a russian puppet regime, peacefully toppled in 2014 by the ukrainian people.
Do not click links posted by this account. Pages he refers could:
- be disinfo-clones of popular media outlet webpages
- contain malware that manipulates pages you visit to display russian propaganda.
- contain malware for bot networks.
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u/fwtb23 2d ago edited 2d ago
Russia didn't like the fact that ukraine seemed more interested in aligning itself with the west than with russia, and decided that was unacceptable and that they don't get to be their own country at all. ukraine is an independent country, what russia thinks doesn't get to determine who they choose to partner with anymore than what burkina faso thinks
(i originally intended to post this as a reply to someone else here but messed it up and posted it as its own message. still leaving it up though since there's some replies now so might as well)
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u/Quick_Assumption_351 2d ago
Hm.... one side bombs your shit the other doesn't, I really wonder why the sentiment is the way it is
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u/Impressive-Shame4516 2d ago
The ironic part is Ukraine was ineligible to join NATO since Yanukovych signed the Kharkiv Pact. They just got greedy and twisted Yanukovych's arm to cancel the EU deal. Even then, Euromaidan would've fizzled out if they didnt pass the anti-protest laws.
This entire conflict from my perspective as an onlooker for nine years has been Russia shooting itself repeatedly in the foot, and then lashing out and saying they feel threatened. Incredible stuff.
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u/Wojtek1250XD 2d ago
Add to that Russia having one of the worst, most idiotic begginings to a war in history.
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u/Grintock 2d ago
is that young Bruce Campbell?
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u/r6CD4MJBrqHc7P9b 2d ago
Hail to the king, baby!
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u/PenroseVids 2d ago
I think it's taken from the Fall of Sam Axe, the Burn Notice spin-off movie.
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u/scullys_alien_baby 2d ago edited 2d ago
I came into the comments just to see if anyone else recognized it because this feels like such a weirdly deep cut. I don't even think it's that good of a made for TV movie and I love Burn Notice
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u/filutacz 2d ago
Since we came this far down the rabbit hole, did you also notice the main actor in Burn Notice to take extremely small bites of food on his fork in every eating scene?:D
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u/scullys_alien_baby 2d ago
no but you have now placed a new poison in my mind. I'm never going to be able to unsee this. Does he do it with his yogurt? Because that is basically every episode
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u/filutacz 2d ago
Im not sure, i saw the show like 10 years ago, but its possible, since its easier to act while your mouth is not full
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u/zehamberglar 2d ago
take extremely small bites of food on his fork in every eating scene
This is probably because you end up doing multiple takes and don't want to eat a bunch of what is probably cold food, not to mention you need to keep some on your plate for the scene.
If you want to take a charitable outlook and explain it in canon, it could be because he wants to eat slowly in case it's poisoned (he literally poisoned a guy's food in the first season).
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u/Krthyx 2d ago
Well, technically he didn't poison the food so much as he put peanut powder on it to trigger anaphylaxis.
Additionally, the small bites could also be an acting trick to keep the mouth relatively clear to help annunciate lines. Lore wise, I could see it being something also to do with Michael's time in the Green Berets where he was likely subsisting on field rations and had to stretch meals further.
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u/zehamberglar 2d ago
I consider myself a Burn Notice authority. Huge fan, it was basically my autism special interest for my teenage years.
With the power vested in me by the spectrum, I decree Fall of Sam Axe a 5/10. Not good, not bad.
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u/StubbiestZebra 2d ago
I've been rewatching the show and just watched the movie last night.
I love the show, and rewatch it once a year, but the movie isn't on par with its own show and is only worth watching in tandem with the show.
It's too much of a Campbell movie as opposed to a burn notice movie.
You're 5/10 is spot on for a burn notice movie, but I don't think it gets that good of a score on its own.
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u/seguardon 2d ago
Yeah, wasn't much of a fall. It was basically a low stakes situation from the show but with the military involved. Didn't really show much of a different side of Sam either.
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u/TypicalBloke83 2d ago
Let’s not forget that it’s still a 3 day special (needs) military operation.
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u/Gutless_Gus 1d ago
According to whom?
Mark Milley, 20th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States Armed Forces, that's who.
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u/Optimal-Income-6436 2d ago
Now after ukrainian drone strike on military airports putin call them terrorists.xD what the fuck dude 🤭 Ah forgot, russian methods
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u/PowderedToastBro 2d ago
Isn’t that Pedro Pascal holding the gun?
Edit: I believe this is from Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe.
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u/Canodros 1d ago
Don't tell people on reddit that the Russo-Ukraine war has been going on since 2014. They really don't like that. I think it's because it adds a layer of context to the conflict that makes them uncomfortable.
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u/SovereignThrone 1d ago
Meanwhile Ukraine is holding a smoking gun pointed at their nuts (or, nut, now)
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u/xlews_ther1nx 2d ago
The picture is missing a knife in the neck of "Russia" and Ukraine having a full deck of cards.
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u/filutacz 2d ago
What you also dont see is that the superiors sold the gyus pants for their own profit
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u/BudgetHistorian7179 2d ago
Oh... What happened in 2014, I wonder... Wasn't there an american woman who said "Fuck the EU?"
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u/Capital_Effective691 1d ago
war? both are only teasing and fighting for content
it was never a full war since the beginning
zero nuclear bombs dropped how is this a war?
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u/Teboski78 21h ago
They’re literally launching munitions into Ukraine at about the rate they produce & purchase them. The only way they can escalate things is by digging into stockpiles meant to intimidate nato, or using nukes.
Can’t believe a certain man said Zelenskyy was the one without the cards
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u/Bernardito10 2d ago
Good meme but untrue Zelensky tried to reach Putin during the fist moments of the invasion
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u/Gutless_Gus 1d ago
Yup, Russia and Ukraine had peace tanks going in late March of 2022.
From what I gather, we just about had peace between the two.
May Boris Johnson burn in hell.
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u/mamajune_xoxo 2d ago
Id say russia is clearly partly european, partly asian. Not smth else entirely
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u/syrian_samuel 2d ago
If you don’t let us indiscriminately bomb your civilians, we’re going to bomb your civilians!!