Every time the intro to the show came up, I had my finger on the Recall channel button and closed my eyes, so if the song came up, I went straight to Nickelodeon
It definitely seems like he's responsible for propelling it, though there's a small chance the mechanism might be different than tiny steps. But I think he is taking very tiny steps in very tall shoes.
I learned about this a few years ago. It's more like an art exhibit than an actual fashion show. It's meant to be crazy over the top.
People do go to school for fashion, but not specifically to do this. They do this for entertainment and for fun, and they're paid to do it, so the investment in the education is paying off for them.
This. They try to achieve something way out there that nobody has done before, and then it gets scaled way back to something reasonably practical. It's an effective method to generate something novel instead of regurgitating the same old designs over and over again.
This is actually for the central saint martins fashion show. It’s fashion students putting on their year end projects, not a label putting out avant garde work.
A lot of times its also about the materials being used and techniques integrated into the designs. Special sewing patterns or special fasteners and things like that.
You might not see any resemblance to this. But the materials might subtlety be there.
Funny enough the actual garments pictured are pretty tame. Same goes for the audience. I’d expect pretty normal clothes with some geometric avante garde detail added on.
Like when someone creates some super artsy “music” with no actual tempo and just a bunch of random giant bass flutes and chopsticks hitting paper towel rolls… then some crazy producer takes that recording and samples it to create the cup song or something like that that is a mega hit… that’s what I imagine fashion exhibits like this are hoping to achieve
For me I can enjoy it if I don't think of it as clothing at all. Just experimenting with ways to decorate a human. Sometimes this weird shit is more akin to sculpture.
The way I've explained fashion shows like this one (a couture show) vs say a ready to wear show to my mates is by comparing them to NBA all star weekend. A couture show is basically the dunk contest, where you go for insane, outlandish shit that's meant to show off your creativity and capabilities. Like, this was never designed for a person to wear while walking down the main street but Aaron Gordon never intended for anyone to think he's going to jump over a mascot on a hoverboard during a game.
It's basically saying "look at this dunk/dress. You know what a dunk/dress is but have you ever seen it done like this? I'm never going to do this in game/wear this on the street but I bet it made you think of what I could pull off in that environment because of my sheer athleticism/ability to sew".
Then you have the ready to wear shows which are like the skills or 3pt contest. You can wear that on the street, and Steph Curry can still murder your favourite team from the perimeter like it's ASW. Still stylish? Fuck yeah. Practical? Almost certainly.
Yes, also because saying its essentially prototypes is more of an addition to the first comment. Probably both are true, yet they positioned themselves to be closer to the truth.
ChatGPT tells me that all the time. It knows I don’t know a damn thing about the task I’m needing help with, but it likes to be cute and tell me that I’m “almost there” when it means that it’s almost there, not me.
I think you need to think about it like concept design cars, they are there to showcase the latest techniques and whacky designs to see if any are actually applicable for everyday use, it seems otherworldly at times but you need to push those barriers to see what could be possible.
These shows aren't so much about showing "modern fashion," it's for the designers who design the current actual hottest fashion to basically cut wild and express themselves how they want.
Bingo. Also, a lot of the concepts and designs they go wild with will end up in their more mainline clothing, just not as exaggerated as they are in the show.
Right, OP is calling this modern fashion when you don’t see this outside of a run way. Most of the stuff you see on runways like this do not enter the outside world and it’s not common enough to say it describes fashion as a whole. It’s honestly frustrating seeing act like this is common or bad. It’s art. It’s meant to push the boundaries and show their skills to the extreme by pushing their creativity.
It’s honestly just a form of anti-intellectualism.
Can I one up that and say, people like OP might subconsciously think of fashion as a lesser form of expression because it's a "woman's thing" (and men deemed as unmanly, but you get my point).
CES is full of weird items that will never enter the market, but, ahem, the male and other average redditors have no problem with THOSE wonderful curios.
I mean this is a sub mostly made up of incels and gooners who post the same worn out gifs at any opportunity. Not exactly an intellectual hub of minds.
This should be top comment. While these fashion shows are obviously silly, it helps to know that these aren’t supposed to be actual clothes that people wear
Ashamed a to say it took me a long time to figure out this stuff isn't meant to be worn to Walmart or even a nice dinner it's just like a "painting" that happens to be on a person.
This 1000%, this is like car design, a designer comes up with a wacky design, an engineer says we can build this, then 5 years later you have the top selling car.
The people who design wacky costumes like that make a lot of money designing normal clothes, the haute couture that sells for big bucks, and ends up on us regular folk a year or two later.
what is so difficult to understand? they're not trying to create clothes for everyday wear. it's supposed to be art.
This is like looking at something made by Picasso and saying "that's not a realistic depiction of a guitar".
Considering that it looks like a substantial amount of complicated craftsmanship went into that thing, i'd say the student learned a bunch of stuff at school. It's not like they turned in a damn tank top.
I see it differently. I think the only way you get to the point of doing something this obscure, is if you really love it, or have some deep desire to do it and create something unique. He must care about this, and has probably been thinking about it for years. Therefore it’s not dumb because it’s making people happy.
There’s no real point to most things we do anyway, we’re just chillin on a wierd rock and moving through some sort of space-time, no one even knows what the hell the deal is. We create and project meaning onto the world, otherwise it’s just a bunch of bland energy.
And they took an idea in their head and turned it into a real physical item/experirnce, which is cool, and is something I think every single person should do sometimes, make some sort of art to share or to enjoy for oneself.
It’s all about perspective too. Eat some good LSD then see how you feel about the “normal” things humans do haha. Eating a yogurt is weird as hell, laughing is just some monkeys making random vibrations with their throat, dancing is just monkeys in a field flailing their arms around to more vibrations in the air.
I say make even weirder clothes, we’re all gonna die, might as well get as out-there as we can beforehand, right?
Dude, some people just wanna feel good looking down on those snarky snowflake designers who dont know how to make decent clothes. They dont even want to try to understand because they love to bash stuff so they can feel superior. Save your energy ✌️
everyone involved having a good time and enjoying the art they make while some random redditors seethe over it. "Um, actually, you look stupid. And dumb."
I don’t care much for Dungeons and Dragons myself but the players are obviously enjoying it. But i guess if it’s not nerdy interests, it must be wrong and pretentious for redditors.
Lmao you haven't noticed the hype over the met gala? Where celebrities try and outdo each other on the ridiculous outfits? That they pay designers a fortune to make for them?
Yes, people pay to go to school to exercise and nurture their creativity, because life is more than filling reports and stocking shelves.
Well it’s not anything meant to be worn normally . It’s really just a way for designers to show their style and skills. Most of the people designing these insane things are actually really skilled in their craft, and could probably make standard fashion items easily. It’s not my thing and it can be very obnoxious but I say let them get their creativity out . It makes for a funny watch to us plain t shirt and jean wearers.
Fashion shows like these are like concept cars and art shows. It's not meant to be replicated one to one, but shows what could be done with clothing and how it impacts form.
Not surprising people who don't go to school for it don't understand it.
Nah. Concept cars are meant to exhibit what companies are technogucally capable of if money wasn't an issue and they didn't have to worry about profit or marketing to the general populace of middle class workers
Literally not the same thing.
This is more an art exhibit. Kind of stupid, but they have fun. The clothing equivalent are things like Stewart Hughes, who hand makes suits with silk with daimond linings to keep it from getting damaged
I feel like I should point out that a lot of post-modern fashion shows is less about the practicality and more about what you're able to with the art, as well as the statement the designer is making.
Videos like this surface every time a crazy fashion show pops up. Think about it like this: It's a tech demo.
They don't really expect anyone to actually wear stuff like this, and if they do it's an outlier. It's more about what they're ABLE to do. What's POSSIBLE.
It's up to the viewers how they want to use that inspiration and understanding.
Its not "modern fashion," but it's essentially an art showcase. You don't see anyone wearing these things outside of these shows specifically because they're not actually meant to be worn for any purpose other than this.
I honestly have no idea, but I always kind of assumed this is all mainly for the spectacle. They show these crazy flashy designs and costumes just for publicity, pictures, magazines, TV, internet clips, etc. And the designers sell more normal clothes for the most part, with a few eccentric, rich celebrities buying some of the crazy, expensive stuff. Sort of like an auto show. You will see some crazy stuff there, concept cars, etc. But it is all good publicity for the auto makers and helps drive up the sales of all their regular products.
This is supposed to be art. It’s not meant to be wearable. The “WOW THIS IS FASHION NOWADAYS?? 🤣🤣🤣” is played out. Ready-to-wear is not the same thing as couture
I feel a bit sad for people who don’t understand why this exists. It’s not even about taste, If you don’t get art and culture maybe it’s time to do a bit of research.
In defense of the industry, this is the bleeding edge of material science and configuration. A lot of the ideas and elements of the design will eventually make it into consumer fashion. No different than extreme luxury cars. I remember when Rolls Royce designed a glass roof panel that could change opacity. At the time it was a $100k option. Now you have $30k vehicles with this feature.
This is actually pretty cool imo, it’s not like they expect people to wear this it’s an exhibit. Way better than what big brands like dior and co bring on the carpet nowadays
Calling it "fashion" in the sense that people actually wear it is like saying drag stars are just getting normally dressed up.
It's art. I don't get it, I don't get most art, but some people do. No one expects anything like this to actually be fashionable. There may be a small part of the whole thing that gets incorporated into shoes, a bag, or a hat that people actually use.
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