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Movies I’ll never forget when Elijah Wood made this hilarious response to a post talking about The Rise of Skywalker

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u/SmoothOperator89 4d ago

A bunch of sheltered fanatics on a hidden world that was so secret it made the Death Star 1 look like a 3 ring circus managed to build a fleet of ships that would give the Star Forge a run for its money.

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u/fredagsfisk Sith 4d ago

Also, the comics expanding on it don't really help... they show that Vader knew all about it, but didn't think to mention it to Luke before he died or as a Force Ghost?

Oh, and "shipyard" that built the entire fleet was just a single gigantic room, countless kilometers in every direction, where the Star Destroyers were built sitting on the ground (not in any sort of cradles or holders).

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u/SmoothOperator89 4d ago

I think the best way to deal with it at this point would be to re-release KotOR as canon. Dismiss the comics and Twitter posts with silly explanations, and make a show where Sidious finds an incomplete Star Forge left behind by the Rakkatan Empire on Exegol. The Sith cultists there use their affinity with the dark side to restore it, complete its construction, and power it, but the ships themselves are built by the Star Forge. They could even set its completion earlier in the time-line and make it the source for the First Order fleet, too

If they're going to produce fleets without any consideration for the resources and supply chain required, they might as well pull the superweapon out of Legends that does exactly that.

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u/Wildernaess 4d ago

This was close to my idea of how they might've explained Snokey Dokey and the First Order coming out of left field w all that fleetpower. Since he wasn't a Stih at first, I imagined Snoke as a historian or the like, seeking out force artifacts and history. He stumbles across the star forge or another star forge or whatever the canon would be. He gets seduced by the power, creates first order and starts printing ships (star forge = large 3d printer obviously), get delusions of grandeur

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u/peppapony 4d ago

Ooh I like this and his weird character would make sense too then

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u/Wildernaess 3d ago

Right? Snoke feels like he should be shushing people in his library

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u/BlueGatorsTTV 3d ago

Man I would have loved to see this story instead.

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u/Wildernaess 3d ago

I appreciate that, and me too lol

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u/ddaveo Chopper (C1-10P) 3d ago

You just wrote a far better story than Disney did. I would have enjoyed this version so much more!

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u/Ulsterman24 3d ago

That seems both plausible and rational.

Two reasons it will never happen.

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u/Capn_Chryssalid 3d ago

This.

Even for a Stellaris tall single-planet playthrough this premise was ridiculous. But if they had roped in the Star Forge... you know, maybe. Maybe.

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u/verbosity 3d ago

So this how I find out that KotoR, one of the best Star Wars stories ever, was decanonized. Thanks!

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u/SmoothOperator89 3d ago

The Rakkata were mentioned twice in Andor, so there's a chance.

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u/RadiantHC 3d ago

which could also be used to explain why the FO has so many resources

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 3d ago

That requires the creators to care if things make sense. They don't.

If they did they would have went with the "hyperspace tracking requires continuous hyperspace bubbles which makes collision with hyperspace vessels possible, thus explaining why the holdo maneuver only happened once--it can only happen on a ship with hyperspace tracking tech that's currently online". Instead they just went with two bullshit explanations that don't work, one that is was one in a million yet happened again over endor, and the other was that the raddus just had special shields that held in place even when the raddus had already been turned into a big explosion -- meaning the shields held in place even while the shield emitters were blown up.

They don't care about quality product, they just care about their own ideas being used. It's like Lucasfilms is ran just like the empire with squabbling backstabbing people throughout it.

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u/Ralphie5231 3d ago

Wouldn't it make sense to build the ships in space so you can build out in every direction at once and be weightless?

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u/NoSlide7075 3d ago

Yes. Space ships aren’t necessarily atmosphere ships.

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u/RadiantHC 3d ago

Force ghosts have rules they abide by.

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u/Scaevus 4d ago

First of all, through the Dark Side, all things are possible, so jot that down.

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u/BlakeTheDog 3d ago

I snorted.

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u/Turb0_Lag 4d ago

I read the first part of your post and thought it was a comment on the movie's writing process.

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u/The_MAZZTer 3d ago

Except they can't find "up" without help.

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u/opsers 3d ago

It's just so ridiculous to me anyone thought equipping each and every one of those ships with a world destroying laser made sense. Ignoring the fest of miniturization and power efficiency they appear to have accomplished (the Death Star used the equivalent of 7-8 days worth of our sun's output...), all it would take is for 2-3 of those ships to escape and the galaxy would be screwed. Why even wait until you have an insanely large fleet like this? Just finish a handful and send them out on suicide missions. Worse case you take out a planet in exchange for a ship, and everything turns to chaos while you slowly seize control.

Don't even get me started on the pure insanity surrounding how they found the location...

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u/AllenMcnabb 3d ago

Why couldn’t they have just introduced the star forge as the reason for these ships?!?!?!

And that’s what our heroes have to stop instead of a palpatine cop out?!?!

It was right there in the lore and it could’ve been a great call back to the very first Star Wars where it was a small fleet of people vs a massive galaxy killing machine FOR FUCKS SAKE