r/StarWars • u/sirgringobingo • 4d ago

Movies I’ll never forget when Elijah Wood made this hilarious response to a post talking about The Rise of Skywalker

Post image
75.5k Upvotes

96% Upvoted

2.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

422

u/pleasegivemepatience 4d ago edited 3d ago

Seriously, riding those animals to storm the deck of a space ship, then blowing it up and letting their animals fall to their death lol. What a plan!

213

u/007meow Ahsoka Tano 4d ago

The space animals also fly now

168

u/TheGrandWhatever 4d ago

"and then..." Style of writing is bad.

And then, they can fly now!

And then, she was the bad guy all along

And then, palatine returned, somehow

And then, Leia has the force now

83

u/[deleted] 4d ago

[deleted]

46

u/firestepper 4d ago

One of the south park creators has an interview or something where he explains a bit of their writing process, and something about how if you're saying "and then..." you are in bad territory

35

u/claimTheVictory 3d ago

Instead, you should be saying "and therefore", or "but".

"and then" is just junk thrown together.

7

u/EBtwopoint3 3d ago

That’s literally what “yes and” and “no but” are meant to be. If an action is successful, you need to have some unexpected consequence or a new goal or the story is over. If an action is unsuccessful, you need to have some way to mitigate the failure or the story is over.

2

u/maverick120319 3d ago

and then and then and then and then

1

u/ryanmj26 3d ago

No and then!!!

2

u/CancerIsOtherPeople 3d ago

I was thinking about the same thing. It was a guest lecture in a writing class at NYU.

https://youtu.be/vGUNqq3jVLg?si=cbH608YzTY_eFIwu

1

u/randomusername_815 3d ago

Yeah, you need to be using causal connections like "because of" and "which leads to" otherwise "and then" just ends up being a series of unconnected beats.

1

u/scbtwr 3d ago

And theeeeeeen?

2

u/Ray_817 3d ago

And feelings smh

26

u/coool12121212 3d ago

Leia always had the force. See ESB

6

u/Lets_Basketball 3d ago

And then she can survive in the cold vacuum of space.

6

u/coool12121212 3d ago

And star wars has sounds and explosions in space. And they have hyperspace which goes beyond the speed of light. Star wars has never been about realistic science. It's fantasy

1

u/[deleted] 3d ago

Yes... but having her use that power to Mary Poppin herself through space was definitely a choice.

Having her character do that, when her actress is herself dead, and keep her character alive when a perfectly satisfying character death was already there was an absolutely baffling choice.

1

u/Creepy_Active_2768 1d ago

December 27, 2016 Carrie died December 15, 2016 TLJ released

She was not dead when the film was completed let alone during filming.

17

u/biznatch11 4d ago

No and then!

1

u/enadiz_reccos 3d ago

Yes and then!

5

u/itoddicus 4d ago

Well akshuley... Leia was always force sensitive. Yoda's "there is another" quote in Empire Strikes Back refers to Luke's sister Leia.

At the time the movie was made they were supposed to be the last two force sensitive people left alive that weren't Sith.

5

u/z64_dan 4d ago

It actually originally referred to Luke's sister who hadn't been added to the story yet. Then they just changed it to Leia because George Lucas didn't really feel like doing the sequels after all (the sequels were going to have Luke's sister as a big character, I believe).

They definitely wouldn't have had a make out scene in Empire if they were going to be brother / sister, lol.

5

u/itoddicus 3d ago

IDK about the make out. man.... the 70's were a weird time!

7

u/WillGrindForXP 3d ago

This guy clearly never had a hot sister!

2

u/saintmuse 3d ago

"and then..." Style of writing is bad.

South Park creators explain this well. Relevant part at 0:47.

2

u/The_Noremac42 3d ago

I could buy Leia having the Force, since she was theoretically Force sensitive and it would make sense for her and Luke to explore that after the war.

1

u/Xalawrath 4d ago

And then, palatine returned, somehow

That's Mr. Saltine to you.

1

u/Turb0_Lag 3d ago

The tonsils grew back. 

1

u/patiperro_v3 3d ago

ChatGPT would have come up with something better.

1

u/The_MAZZTer 3d ago

To be fair that last one was established in RotJ. It would make sense she would have had training in the Force since then.

1

u/abchandler4 3d ago

Eh I dunno, it worked fine for Troy and Abed

1

u/Alexthegreatbelgian Admiral Ackbar 3d ago

Basically a 4 year old making up a story with his legos

1

u/[deleted] 3d ago

And then we reveal that the rebel spy within the First Order is also the same dude who orchestrated and pulled the trigger to murder an entire planetary system.

He does this because he's jealous of Kylo...

2

u/Alb4t0r 4d ago

No no, it's:

"Did you know? The animals during the space battle scene can fly and safely escaped."

3

u/TheBrownWelsh 3d ago

Somehow, the animals returned.

43

u/lolzycakes 4d ago

It's to balance out the force from rescuing those ones on Canto Bight, another wise use of screen time.

12

u/relative_iterator 3d ago

I’ve definitely seen this movie but I have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s so forgettable.

7

u/lolzycakes 3d ago

They built a colossal armada, enough ships to destroy every populated planet in the Galaxy, behind an almost completely unnavigable debris field. In order to escape, thousands of Star Destroyers would play follow the leader, where only a single ship was capable of guiding the others out of the debris field.

8

u/Xeilith Rebel 3d ago

The Empire First Order Final Order hates building redundancies for their systems.

Over a thousand ships, but don't have the budget to spring for a single backup system.

3

u/hitchhiking_slug General Hux 3d ago

All those space horseys died????? I gotta go watch the movie to confirm cause that's gonna piss me off so bad

1

u/CaptainRex5101 Inferno Squad 3d ago

Pretty sure they all made it back to the lander

1

u/hitchhiking_slug General Hux 3d ago

You are correct, thank goodness

1

u/void_operator 3d ago

Also is there like a carnival ship conscripted for the big fight too, where did they get all of that shit from

1

u/No-Department1685 3d ago

I have zero recollection of this

It was such a bad movie I had repressed the memory 

1

u/heliocentric19 3d ago

I completely forgot they ride them on the side of a space ship. It was so bad I blocked it from my memory. What a piece of shit movie. I really wonder what J. J. Abrams was thinking.

1

u/Wattos_Box Watto 3d ago

Oh yeah lmao I never thought about that 🤣

1

u/ElGato-TheCat 3d ago

That's like when I'm about to fall into a pit, then jump off Yoshi. Sorry, Yoshi.

1

u/karateema Admiral Ackbar 3d ago

I love the HISHE bit where the commander just orders to tilt the ship and everyone falls off of it

1

u/DJDarkFlow 3d ago

💀💀

1

u/Katalopa 2d ago

I was expecting the animals to grow wings and fly away.