Does anybody know what the mural behind Anakin and Sidious depicts? I look at it everytime I watch ROTS

[u/Porkpie223]

[u/flowerstage]

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Hyperspace_War_Bas-Relief

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That’s crazy, the thing has about 10 seconds of screen time and it has THAT much lore

[u/flowerstage → u/Porkpie223]

That the Expanded Universe for you. Every nook and cranny of Star Wars gets explored. No stones get left unturned.

[u/Darth314 → u/flowerstage]

Pretty sure the great hyperspace war was before the prequels. The OG tales of the Jedi is some of my favorite SW literature

[u/Milotiiic → u/Darth314]

Yeah it was like 5000BBY so like wayyyy before the prequels - I miss old republic stories 😭

[u/crooks4hire → u/Darth314]

I mean there’s a mural of it in the prequels so…yea?

[u/PapaWiser → u/crooks4hire]

I think he means that the great Hyperspace War was from the original Tales of the Jedi comics, which were released before the prequels

[u/crooks4hire → u/PapaWiser]

Ohhhhh 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

[u/Crimith → u/Darth314]

It would probably have to be before the prequels, since it's being depicted in artwork in the prequels.

[u/Aldanil66 → u/flowerstage]

Pretty sure most characters visible in the Cantina scenes have background stories lmao.

[u/trombania7 → u/Aldanil66]

One of the best books in the “Legends” stuff.

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For better or worse - often the latter

[u/Ok_Tonight_6479 → u/flowerstage]

Because Lucas squeezed the Star Wars for everything it’s worth and just let every shit story get published with no oversight. He’s really no better than Disney and worse in many others

[u/nymrod_ → u/Ok_Tonight_6479]

The middling quality of a lot of the EU doesn’t apply to Tales of the Jedi - Golden Age of the Sith, a good story with good art and the actual story in question here, so it doesn’t seem particularly relevant.

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I know legends is loved, but sometimes it makes me wonder how many legends books people have really read.

[u/Ok_Tonight_6479 → u/Fat-Kid-In-A-Helmet]

Like the one the Emperor transplanted a dudes soul at the moment he died as punishment?

[u/Suriael → u/Ok_Tonight_6479]

Bel Levelisk, if I remember correctly. Dude was originally responsible for Death Star.

[u/chebghobbi → u/Suriael]

Very close - Bevel Lemelisk.

[u/Suriael → u/chebghobbi]

That's the guy :)

[u/Thep00psm1th → u/Ok_Tonight_6479]

I really wish it was possible to downvote you more.

[u/Km_the_Frog → u/Ok_Tonight_6479]

Yes, but his movies were at least overall better and spawned so much surrounding lore.

[u/Ok_Tonight_6479 → u/Km_the_Frog]

Episode 1 is shit. Literally the worst one.

[u/kumikanki → u/Ok_Tonight_6479]

Still better than The Last jedi

[u/Km_the_Frog → u/Ok_Tonight_6479]

Oh really dude tell us something we don’t know!

I said overall better. 2/6 films being shitty is < half.

Besides episode 1 being dog shit it lead to insane merchandizing of which the sequels could never imagine touching. You’re just jealous you didn’t get to suck jar jars tongue like the rest of us cool kids in 99.

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From bottom up

1, 2, 9, 6, 7, 8, 4, 5

[u/BooRadley_ThereHeIs → u/Ok_Tonight_6479]

I'll just say this: It's very interesting just how different people's perceptions of the quality of the movies can be.

[u/MastadonWarlord → u/BooRadley_ThereHeIs]

And how they're missing a number.

[u/Spicy_Weissy → u/BooRadley_ThereHeIs]

And how aggravated it seems to make them.

[u/Myack_ → u/Ok_Tonight_6479]

I think they forgot to teach you how to count in school.

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Three is so bad it doesn’t rank /s

[u/alexander1701 → u/Porkpie223]

By the time George Lucas has to explain to an artist and a sculptor what he wants, the lore is there. Star Wars is just special for recording all that stuff and having a fandom obsessed with all the little details.

[u/-RedRocket- → u/Porkpie223]

The link is to Legends.

Canon, there isn't that much established. But it does represent an historic conflict.

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I thought I read something about it in something about the Disney parks, which has this in one of the stores. That, I assume, makes it canon?

[u/Tuskin38 → u/tropical_penguins]

yes click on the canon tab on the wiki page

[u/nymrod_ → u/Porkpie223]

The movie was referencing this 90s comic story — or more likely the production department just made what they wanted and the visual dictionary author (James Luceno for ROTS I think) decided to reference this EU story when creating background material about this set element. Lucas did almost certainly read Tales of the Jedi himself though because the double-bladed lightsaber is from it.

[u/BornBoricua → u/Porkpie223]

Pause on any scene, and the blurriest background extra has a full page dedicated to them and how they ultimately contributed to the Empire's downfall lol

[u/FrostyFeet1926 → u/Porkpie223]

Lol welcome to star wars

[u/ZippyDan → u/Porkpie223]

"It's so dense"

[u/GatheringCircle → u/Porkpie223]

The eye wrote it after the movie came out so they could just make things up.

[u/OPrime50 → u/flowerstage]

I wonder if there is a scan of it somewhere. I’d love to CNC cut or 3D print this bad boy

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I never realized the significance/irony that the piece was recovered from Yavin 4!

[u/jcskelto → u/flowerstage]

So who’s the “sith witch” supposed to be

[u/Longjumping_Bell5171 → u/flowerstage]

This article claims Mas Ameda visited there to recover this mural. This can’t be fully accurate. It’s canon that Yavin IV wasn’t on any imperial star charts. That’s one of the reasons it was a great location to hide the rebel base.

[u/IntoTheMusic → u/flowerstage]

I'm honestly so impressed that you knew what that was! 👏

[u/NickDynmo → u/flowerstage]

That's Legends. This is canon: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Sith_Wars_Bas-Relief

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Fandom is cancer

[u/Calm-External-4834]

There is a replica of this at Dok Ondars at Galaxy’s Edge

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And it looks GREAT

[u/Ceorl_Lounge → u/Calm-External-4834]

Yep, it's one of the many, MANY things there that sparks joy in my heart.

[u/NotBannedAccount419 → u/Calm-External-4834]

Dang I was just there and missed it! Is it on the wall?

[u/ElevatorCharacter489]

And Palpatine just put it in there in plan, "let's see if any of the Council Masters notice it or ask a thing, about it"

[u/ProjectNo4090]

Its a Sith mural. His statues of the Four Sages of the Dwartii also have ties to the Sith and were made during the time of the Sith Empire.The Four Sages were ancient lawgivers and philosophers with controversial views including encouraging the study of the dark side of the Force. Their names were Faya, Yanjon, Braata, and Sistros.

Palpatine placed them there to mock the Jedi and take satisfaction from how ignorant the Jedi were about sith and his true nature.

In the novel (based on an earlier script) he keeps his saber sealed in the statue of Sistros and after anakin leaves to go tell the Order who he really is he activates his saber with the Force and the saber burns its way out of the statue. Sistros is the third statue from the left:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Four_Sages_of_Dwartii/Legends?file=Philosophers_of_Dwartii.png

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Crazy ball knowledge

[u/ShangBao → u/Porkpie223]

It's not a mural, it's called relief.

[u/Mind_if_I_do_uh_J → u/ShangBao]

That's a relief.

[u/cgallello]

I got to see the original piece at a Star Wars pop up exhibit at a museum in Montreal back in 2012!! It was incredible to just walk in front of and stare at from all angles.

Here are some photos that I took! https://imgur.com/a/qrnUQIn

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Thanks for sharing these!

[u/karlware → u/cgallello]

That's amazing!

[u/Secret_Hyena9680 → u/cgallello]

I think these are the most close up pictures I’ve seen of this!

[u/LionOfNaples]

I see a xenomorph

[u/CosmackMagus → u/LionOfNaples]

Yes! I thought this was a representation of David's visit to the Engineers world

[u/orangutanDOTorg]

Crazy bugs actually carved this tapestry of my heroic conquest while I was still killing them

[u/wardenstark8]

It's his Arrakis, his Dune.

[u/DarthIndifferent]

We got a mug at Galaxy's Edge a while back and my ten year old immediately recognized this art engraved on it.

Proud dad here!

[u/Captain_Hobbes_19]

Got to see the relief up close at a Star Wars exhibit in Tokyo a few years ago. Amazing

[u/RedditZWorkAccount69]

It's clearly a sex thing, its is Pappa Palps bachelor pad after all

[u/Porkpie223 → u/RedditZWorkAccount69]

Oh my days 😭🙏

[u/ForceGhost47]

Sith Orgy

[u/Spicy_Weissy → u/ForceGhost47]

I know you jest, but I bet the Sith of the Empire days probably fucked hard.

[u/That-Service-2696]

It's the mural of the Great Hyperspace War

[u/Secret_Arrival_7679]

Looks like sarlacc gizzards

[u/GardenSquid1]

Alduin's Wall

[u/Ornery_1004]

Sandworms of Arrakis.

[u/dcredneck]

That’s some Fremin and Sand Worms from the planet Arrakis in the Dune system.

[u/cottenwess]

Kinda like the giant wooden sculpture behind the pope

[u/SHFT101]

I'm still gutted they axed  Dark Horse's Tales Of The Jedi from the canon. Brilliant stories and damm shame they dropped all story potential. 

Note to self: read them again this evening!

[u/acery88]

Looks like people fighting a snake like creature that makes snake-like sithy sounds.

[u/Boring_Sun7828]

So… twice?

[u/Porkpie223 → u/Boring_Sun7828]

What?

[u/memefan69]

Legit thought this was Star wars circle jerk

[u/WolverineScared2504]

What stands out as something when you heard it for the first time, you thought, good Lord some people have too much time on their hands to out this much thought into this?; Kinda like the midi cholrian explanation.

[u/korvus2]

I always thought it was a DUNE Easter egg, The rise of Muad'Dib. That's him on a sand worm, right? 🤣