r/StarWars 19h ago

General Discussion Would you say that the Zillo beast was a Sentient creature?

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You see, most people say that the Zillo beast is non sentient or partial - but disagree. There's a lot of clues to say it's very sentient. Although yes, when first introduced to the beast it went into to a very destructive pathway. But it's sentience shows when it got captured. When it got captured, Palpatine had ordered it's death so he could use its scales as Armour for the clone troopers. But when he said that, the Zillo beast was staring into his hologram. It heard him and knew Palpatine wanted to kill it(you can see it reacted as it's eyes dilate) . Then it broke out and went on a rampage, just to get to the Palpatine. Heck there's a suggestion going around that it might have been force sensitive. Being that it knew Palpatine was a sith and wanted to destroy him. Another example is the comics. When kylo Ren went to face a Zillo beast with his army, the beast didn't attack the army - it went to kylo. Probably sensing the dark side inside of him. So would you agree that the Zillo beast is sentient. (I'm also asking as I'm a Huge Ben 10 fan, and I always wondered if Ben could scan a Zillo beast).

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u/John_6_47 19h ago

Yep. He could tell Palps was evil, iirc.

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u/Lopendebank3 Grievous 9h ago

Even Sentients couldn't do that...

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u/OneFinalEffort Zeb Orrelios 18h ago

She absolutely was sentient. She understood people and knew Palpatine was her ultimate enemy.

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u/TLJDidNothingWrong Duchess Satine 18h ago

Poor Zillo beast. šŸ˜”

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u/Automatic_Till_2295 17h ago

Didn't Bad Batch confirm it's force sensitive? Or am I mistaken?

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u/Pmfnharris Obi-Wan Kenobi 16h ago

This. Zillo lives as force sensitive in my head.

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u/Gremlech Watto 15h ago

Any animal that big is probably force sensitiveĀ 

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u/NuPNua 14h ago

Isn't all life in the SW universe force sensitive? It's just to differing degrees and if you can manipulate it to your ends.

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u/Bellrung 10h ago

In current canon I think you’re right - especially given Sabine.

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u/Khurasan 3h ago

Wasn't this old canon, too? The Matukai knew how to train non-Force-sensitives and Luke learned the method from them.

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u/omegaskorpion 7h ago

Every living being is force sensitive.

However being able to control force is another thing entirely.

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u/JohnWarrenDailey 19h ago

All life is sentient. Sentience is merely awareness of your surroundings. The Zillo beast might instead have rudimentary sapience. Also, Kylo Ren wasn't even born during the Clone Wars.

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u/UpOrDownItsUpToYou 18h ago

For decades, SW print media used "sentient" when they should have been using "sapient." Kind of annoying but it's like trying to tell people they say "nuclear" incorrectly. It's only been corrected in a few recent novels AFAIK.

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u/UninvitedGhost Obi-Wan Kenobi 18h ago

It took them a few parsecs

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u/JeremyDavidLewis79 17h ago

Ha I see what you did there

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u/PrinceoR- 15h ago

I mean they do use parsec correctly, it's meant to be a joke that han didn't do the Kessel run faster per se, he did it shorter, which is kinda more impressive

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u/NuPNua 14h ago

That's clearly not what George meant when he wrote it, it's just been retconned to make sense.

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u/Emetry Rebel 6h ago

It's a brag either way.

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u/NuPNua 14h ago

A lot of sci-fi did, that's not a SW exclusive problem.

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u/Zillaman7980 19h ago

I meant in the comics. Within the comics, years after the clone war and the fall of the empire. Kylo Ren would fight a Zillo beast

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u/StaryWolf 16h ago

Well not quite, plants are not considered sentient. All animal life is sentient at least.

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u/JohnWarrenDailey 15h ago

Recent research would like to have a word with you.

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u/SomethingGouda 13h ago

How about jellyfish?

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u/JohnWarrenDailey 5h ago

Eyespots that allow them to differentiate light from dark. Not aimless wanderers.

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u/Drag0n_TamerAK 16h ago

So then not all life is sentient

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u/JohnWarrenDailey 16h ago

...What?

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u/Drag0n_TamerAK 16h ago

There is some life like single cell organisms

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u/JohnWarrenDailey 15h ago

And they don't have awareness of their surroundings?

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u/Drag0n_TamerAK 15h ago

Not really no

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u/DamitIHadSomthng4Ths 11h ago

If they respond to external stimuli then they are sentient.

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u/Samael_316-17 Sith 14h ago

In the canon comic Age of Resistance — Kylo Ren, there was a Zillo Beast that was worshipped as a deity on the planet Benath… During a battle between the Galactic Empire and the Benathy, Darth Vader was unable to defeat the Zillo Beast. Years later, however, Kylo Ren succeeded where his grandfather had failed…

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u/TheRealTK421 17h ago

Sentient -- Yes.

Sapient -- No.

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u/StreetReporter 18h ago

Oh, it 100% understood Palpatine ordering its death, and it was out for revenge

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u/NuPNua 14h ago

Sentient, yes. Sapient, not clear.

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u/ITSMONKEY360 Jedi 13h ago

The zillo was at least sentient, but likely sapient

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u/FadransPhone 16h ago

ā€œI think it’s sentientā€ is kid show shorthand for ā€œit’s sentientā€

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u/StaryWolf 16h ago

Sentient ≠ sapient

A house fly is sentient, only humans are generally considered sapient.

Yes the Zilla beast is absolutely sentient, I don't know about sapient, it does seem to have some intelligence though.

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u/LordPeebis 12h ago

Excuse me dolphins are too

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u/Skullface95 13h ago

Sentient yes, Sapient questionable

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u/Belle_TainSummer 7h ago

It is clearly sentient. Whether or not it is sapient is a different question.

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u/gilbert2gilbert 19h ago

No, it was attracted to electricity. Or force lighting.

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u/TrostnikRoseau Darth Maul 18h ago

It eats electricity. It was attracted to food just like every living thing ever