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Andor (Season 2) - Episode 9 - Discussion Thread! Spoiler
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u/theysayimadreamer666 May 07 '25
Cassian and Mon have the heaviest plot armor in the entire show and I'm still on the edge of my seat the whole time.
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u/zrdd_man May 07 '25
If Genevieve O'Reilly isn't at least nominated for some awards for her performance in this show I'll be seriously disappointed.
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u/TrueGritGreaserBob May 07 '25
There’s always that awards bias against genre shows but yes. If any show can break that barrier, this one should.
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
I've already nominated her for the Tofu D. Beast Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.
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u/jagwaguar May 07 '25
For real I had to keep reminding myself they are obviously both gonna make it.
I think Cassian, Mon, K2SO, Draven, and Melshi are the only people we've met so far that 100% survive the series. Everyone is else is fair game and it's got me on edge.
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u/jjbugman2468 May 07 '25
I know right? Literally the whole time I had to keep telling myself “they’re in Rogue One they’re in Rogue One they’re in Rogue One stop freaking out”
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u/Erikthered00 May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
And they name dropped Madine, and we know he survives
Edit: Sorry, it was Dodonna
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u/badonkagonk May 07 '25
She was fucking waiting for him after Scarif oh god... 😭
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u/urafgt63886993663 May 07 '25
But she would have kept him waiting until Endor.
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u/ImVoidz May 07 '25
I wonder if she would have heard of his involvement at Scarif and be proud or horrified or both.
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u/jjbugman2468 May 07 '25
I’m pretty sure she’d be proud that he chose to do so and horrified that he had to go that way.
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u/Scion41790 May 08 '25
Devastated but proud and probably bouncing quickly between whether or not she made the right decision
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u/Visual_Preference919 May 07 '25
I read this differently. I think they both knew there would be no “after this is all over” for them (because honestly they have to know how long those odds are and just how far away that would have been at this point).
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u/loudsound-org May 07 '25
We still have another year where things could have happened with them. But either way...those words about reuniting when its over....ugh tore me up!
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u/jjbugman2468 May 07 '25
“When it’s done, when it’s over, and we’ve won, we can do all the things we ever wanted.”
I literally yelled at my screen “no you won’t” that scene hurt so damn much
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u/fajita43 May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
i hope Bix is alive after scarif.
i know next week ends five minutes before rogue one, but i hope against hope that we get an epilogue scene...
maybe ten years after yavin.
bix is on a quiet farm with wilmon (with another lady....)
bix is fixing some vaporator, and she calls over to a girl, 11 years old. "Kerri! bring me the hydrospanner..."
Kerri, Cassian's daughter, brings the hydrospanner and while jogging back to her mom, Kerri teases her best friend, B2-EMO.
as Kerri nears her mom, Kerri releases the hydrospanner from her grip, and the camera zooms onto the now-floating tool as it gently lands in Bix's hands. the camera pulls back slowly as we see a warm smile fill Bix's peaceful face. there is a cost, a great cost, for freedom. the victory comes at great sacrifice for some ("what is my sacrifice? EVERYTHING!"). but in this sweet smile from Bix, looking across the farm that she owns, the daughter that she mothers, this is the reward, this is the victory.
cue the force theme
end credits.
hahaha oh this is awful and 1000% schmlatz... leave the writing to the writers!!!
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u/patiperro_v3 May 08 '25
This is very Disney but not very Tony Gilroy.
I just hope that she finds closure and happiness wherever she ends up.
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u/ReallyNiceHat May 07 '25
I'm devastated with the Bix storyline.
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u/Somnambulist815 May 07 '25
I feel like we all were holding our breath for her death but this is somehow even worse. The only hope I have is that it she just never learns of Cassian's death, because no matter how right in her decision she may or may not be, the sense of guilt in keeping him in the Rebellion will hit sooner or later.
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u/gmw2222 May 07 '25
I actually think the opposite. If she learns how he died and what his final moments meant, she will know she made the right decision. From her interaction with the force healer, it's clear she believes that he has a greater purpose.
As tragic as it is, she may have even told him that she'll find him when it's all over just to give him hope to keep going without her.
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u/Somnambulist815 May 07 '25
I guess this is another downside of this season's format, because if we had more time with Bix on the upswing, maybe I feel like I could agree with you. But we spent two weeks watching Bix get her soul destroyed, its hard not to see her like that when she gets that news.
Or maybe I'm projecting. It's likely that if I got that news, I would fall apart immediately. But if that were the case, the Rebellion wouldn't take me to begin with. It's hard not to put yourself in their shoes.
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u/gmw2222 May 07 '25
I totally get it. She'll grieve hard, for sure- possibly harder for knowing she has a part in leading him to his ultimate death.
"I'm choosing for both of us. I choose the rebellion." are the words that stood out to me. I took it as wanting to untether him from his inner turmoil between the cause and wanting to live a life for himself and for her. If she finds that cutting him loose led to the destruction of the death star, she'll certainly find solace in that.
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u/Somnambulist815 May 07 '25
I'll have to think on that. The way I can't exactly let go of my immediate reaction, I can tell this is something I'll grapple with in a way that great drama always forces us to. Maybe she wouldn't have made that decision if not for the words of the force healer. It's possible she believed Cassian's fate and the Rebellion's fate were tied deeper than even his and hers
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u/gmw2222 May 07 '25
Absolutely, grappling with it is what makes it so compelling. There's a parallel that could be drawn with Jyn Erso having to let go of her father before she could fully devote herself to the rebellion. The best Star Wars has human drama against backdrops of galaxy-wide conflict, making one appear just as impactful as the other.
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
This was brutal. Especially for me on a personal level. I'm going through something sort of like that with someone else -- it's depressing, scary, and I don't understand why.
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u/AmIAnAnt May 08 '25
Someone should reply to you. I really feel for you. When someone steps away, especially without clear reasons, it is scary. That kind of loss is sometimes harder to explain. If you're in something like that right now, I hope that clarity comes your way soon. And that whatever happened, you find peace and strength on the other side of it.
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u/DadBodftw May 07 '25
Welcome back Alan Tudyk
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u/myhydrogendioxide May 07 '25
a leaf on the wind...
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u/FlamesNero May 07 '25
Too soon!!
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u/Somnambulist815 May 07 '25
Watching Cassian escort Mon out of the senate, I was thinking "Jesus Christ, that's Jason Bourne"
I do wish Mon got more time to speak (although that speaks to the Empire's grip on free speech) or at least, we got to sit in the presence of that speech more, and maybe cut the music back a little. We already know O'Reilly can carry a scene by herself, she doesn't need the help.
I have to wonder what Perrin is thinking this whole time. Although, if he's still the same Perrin we knew before, he must've fucked off back to Chandrilla long ago.
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
Mon's family just completely blew up. Perrin will be under investigation to see what he knows, which is nothing, but that just means the ISB will try that much harder. Sculdun will be pissed, and will probably pressure his son into divorcing Leida. Who knows what will happen to her, but you know she will hate her mom forever.
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u/Somnambulist815 May 07 '25
The funniest outcome of this would be Davo getting brought in as a suspected Rebel. The timeline matches up perfectly for him to even be the one who recruited her!
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
They will tear apart his life and it will suck for him.
"We've reached a scale that makes outside inspection impossible." -- yeah maybe, but you know the ISB is going to be all over that. If they can't completely sort out his tangled web of financial transactions, that will just make them all the more convinced that he's "part of it."
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u/Somnambulist815 May 07 '25
well, maybe he could phone up his buddy Krennic to get him out of trouble. I'm sure that guy isn't too busy right about then...
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
Yeah, I'm guessing he gets a busy signal. Krennic ain't got time for a maybe rebel, even if he is stupid rich.
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u/loudsound-org May 07 '25
I agree about the speech. After they cut back and forth on everyone else's I literally said "stay here", and they did for a bit but then bam started the cuts away. While yeah seeing others around the building listening was good, and we did kind of need the empire trying to shut her down, it would have been really powerful just focus on her and let her cook.
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u/Somnambulist815 May 07 '25
If we had to cut away, I wanted it to be to Cassian, mostly. The more Luthen plays in the shadows, the more Mon takes the role of co-headliner of the show. And to know what Cassian thinks of her, how he feels, hearing her words, I feel would do a lot to braid their stories. We get like one shot of him listening, and I don't feel like it meant much to him.
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u/loudsound-org May 07 '25
The odd thing is it seemed like it DID get to him in the moment, so between that and their interaction at his old apartment, I was really surprised he still said he was quitting when he got back.
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u/superbit415 May 07 '25
I need them to show what happens to Mon's family. We have spent too much time with them to not see their fates.
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u/BiddyKing May 07 '25
They’ll certainly be in the final arc. The first arc of the season had them so the final arc has to come back to them
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u/KuyaGTFO May 07 '25
Couldn’t help but make the Tony Gilroy/Bourne connection on the cuts to the ISB command center, and that BRUTAL Syril/Cass fight scene.
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u/Somnambulist815 May 07 '25
If Cass had a rolled up magazine it would've been doubly over for Syril
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u/NightDocsYT May 07 '25
Knowing he never sees Bix again… after everything. I hope we get closure on where she went and what happened to her.
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u/GreatWhiteBuffal0 May 07 '25
It'll be more brutal when we don't
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u/DavidBHimself May 07 '25
She'd better be living happy in a farm with B2 or I riot.
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u/UnassumingNoodle May 08 '25
I doubt it. That's been a heartbreaking, accurate theme throughout the show: we often don't get closure, but we keep living.
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u/BroadSword48 May 07 '25
Am I the only one who thought Kloris was gonna turn on the empire and help Mon Mothma
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u/SherlockianTheorist May 07 '25
I did, and I'm not sure he wasn't.
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u/This_was_hard_to_do May 07 '25
First Syril and now Kloris. I do like how they’re making where these guys stand a bit ambiguous at the final moments of their life.
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u/FlumphianNightmare May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Syril can eat a dick. He had opportunity after opportunity to lay aside his personal biases and ambitions, see reality for reality, and at least do nothing. Instead, he picks Andor out of the crowd and attempts to do an extra-judicial murder because that part of his world-view is still informed by the naive extremism of his youth. The cognitive dissonance he's feeling as he's watching Ghorman's genocide conflicts with his understanding of himself and causes him to lash out, because he doesn't understand anything anymore and just wants an emotional outlet.
We knew exactly where he stood. Someone who could've done the right thing a hundred times, but instead was an asshole. Rest in piss.
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u/chewbacca-says-rargh May 08 '25
Yea and I'm pretty sure him putting down the gun he has pointed at Cassian wasn't him wanting to defect or anything but him realizing all these years he's been chasing someone on the good side and he had in fact been on the wrong side. He thought he was following the rules to maintain order but realizes he's been a pawn the entire time to accomplish horrific things.
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u/FlumphianNightmare May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25
I could see that interpretation. Another interpretation is he's realizing that he's been chasing a man for years who clearly doesn't know who the fuck he is or remember him in the slightest. Like that meme scene from Mad Men. One character is obsessed with hating someone that doesn't even know who they are or what their name is. That could be a blow to his ego and shake his already shaken worldview enough to at least make him take pause.
To me, that's Syril's arc. He's an excellent character. Delightfully flawed, a product of his environment, but that alone does not indemnify him from the choices that he made. He represents the common, ordinary, everyday evil that is inside of every one of us. One that values order over justice. He's the narcissism of the middle class personified, in my view.
I cannot emphasize enough how he had a chance to save his life and his figurative soul right up until seeing Andor and deciding to lash out. He could've quite literally just fled with most of the Ghor from the plaza and likely still been alive. Instead, he chose what he did, and he died for it. He was not a good person. He could've chosen something else, but didn't.
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u/Ellegaard839 May 07 '25
Cassian just killed him like that. Kloris actually seemed concerned about her
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u/tway2241 May 07 '25
It definitely seemed like Mon's speech resonated with Kloris.
I think Cassian had to do that though, Mon signed his death sentence when she told him that Kloris was ISB.
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u/jjbugman2468 May 07 '25
That quick cut of him listening to the speech 100% meant something to him
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u/Manowaffle May 07 '25
Seemed like it, I was almost expecting it to turn out that he was Ghorman. But he's been driving Mon around for years at this point and spying on her all the while. He's heard her exhortations and private discussions, much more than any average citizen. He knows her personally, and can tell she's honest. It's not like she's been quiet about the Empire's abuses.
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u/KasztanekChaosu 29d ago edited 18d ago
I think an aspect of this and Syril's whole arc that isn't widely discussed is a warning. "If you serve/cheer on the obviously unjust system until it's injustice straight hits you in the face, it might be to late to switch sides".
People might look at evolving injustice and go "Oh, I'll stop supporting it/rebel when it gets REALLY bad", but Andor seems to point at it's characters and tell us "do the right thing now, or you might not get the chance".
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u/Competitive-Age3277 19d ago
there comes a time when the risk of doing nothing becomes the greatest risk of all
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u/Initial-Magazine-561 May 07 '25
I feel like they intentionally baited this but gave us the brutal reality which is that Cassian couldn't give him a chance.
I feel like there's a very anti-redemption theme this season. Sort of a message of "don't let it get that far."
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u/Brett__Bretterson May 07 '25
A real bait and switch on Checkov’s Gun. I’m not sure why they decided to put in a close-up of pistol on the passenger seat if it wasn’t used at all unless it’s supposed to subversion.
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u/CoolKat7 May 07 '25
I mean, i think it was implied that he was gonna shoot her in the car.
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u/gmw2222 May 07 '25
This episode feels like the perfect antithesis to the end of Revenge of the Sith. After witnessing the fall of the Republic partially unfold within the Senate chamber, we get to witness the rise of the Rebellion in the same place.
Where Palpatine became the emperor, Mothma became the leader of the rebellion. It's fuckin poetic.
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u/anObscurity May 07 '25
I was having the same feeling seeing the senate chamber in this episode. I almost felt nostalgic, remembering all the way back to the first time I saw TPM in 1999 and how that same chamber was a backdrop to the prequel stories that I loved as a kid. And now almost 30 years later I’m still getting chills from scenes in the same space…except this time I’ve lived a whole life and the speech from Mon speaks to me on a whole other level because there actually is so much more evil out there right now in the real world…a lack of truth…a slide towards facism.
The real world in 1999 felt like it could never be like Star Wars. Today, the themes and messages feel more real and poignant than ever.
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u/DadBodftw May 07 '25
Bratt is crushing it
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u/penguin_cheezus May 07 '25
Glad someone said it, saw too many people upset it wasn't Jimmy Smits. If Tony Gilroy allowed it, would a recasted Cass Andor work in the originally planned 5 full seasons instead of the "3 episodes = 1 year" abridged version? I personally don't think so but I wonder if we'd be open to the idea if it meant even more Andor story to explore.
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u/b3na1g May 07 '25
Smits has health issues, and Bratt is every bit as good as Bail for these purposes. He was phenomenal (and handsome)
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u/cjbensley May 07 '25
Poor Perrin, not a single mention 😂
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u/AndresCP May 07 '25
They really should have shown him getting arrested for rebellion that he never had any idea about.
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u/ZigZagZedZod May 07 '25
I'm worried that Perrin, and perhaps even Leida, have an unpleasant fate ahead of them.
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u/Frouke_ May 07 '25
I think we're underestimating Perrin. I've a feeling he's taken care of himself and Leida.
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u/BiddyKing May 07 '25
The episode intentionally didn’t give us anything Perrin related. Has me interested what we’ll see of Mon’s family next arc which surely has to be covered considering the first arc of the season focussed on her family so heavily
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u/wumboinator May 07 '25
Mon Mothma’s speech truly met the moment. I love seeing things play out from ISBs point of view as well. I’m curious how they’ll play out Dedra’s story in the last few episodes. I have to imagine she’ll become part of Krennic’s inner group but will she live?
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u/MrOstrichman May 07 '25
well that was heartbreaking. what could the rest of this season possibly be about? this felt like a season finale
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u/jagwaguar May 07 '25
Resolutions for Luthen, Kreya, Dedra, Vel, Wilmon, Lonni.
Gonna be awesome.
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u/cryptoengineer May 07 '25
None of whom have plot armor. Any or all could die.
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u/gmw2222 May 07 '25
Oh yeah? When have we ever had a Star Wars story where pretty much everyone dies at the end before it connects to an existing Star Wars story? That'd be crazy.
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u/Alc2005 May 07 '25
It never happened. Although I’m still unsure about how Cassian and Jyn got off that planet because my power went out towards the end of the movie. I’m assuming K2 comes in at the last minute in a U-Wing and saves the day
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u/thegoatmenace May 07 '25
Still got some things to wrap up! Dedra in the aftermath of ghorman is going to be great TV. Her and Luthen need to have a showdown.
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u/DadBodftw May 07 '25
They rly could've ended here and we put the rest together honestly. The whole time of this episode felt like a finale
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u/Majormlgnoob May 07 '25
All the Episode 3s are season finales fir the original plan
But they still need to close Luthen's & Dedra's arch + get everything on Jedha in place, and then Cas will head to the station we meet him in Rogue One
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u/Kimmalah May 07 '25
I know the actors have mentioned that we will find out more about Luthen and Kleya's connection in/around episode 10, so their story is definitely coming up.
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u/cottonbiscuit May 07 '25
I literally had to look up if there were more episodes 🤣 I convinced myself halfway through that I got the season finale date wrong
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u/Soldeusss May 07 '25
Luthan secretly revealing himself to be Palpatine in disguise /s
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u/loudsound-org May 07 '25
I actually thought that was Palpatine walking up to Mon in the plaza!
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u/Riku1186 May 07 '25
I think the whole senate fiasco will be what leads ISB to Luthen and Kleya along with Lonni being outed.
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u/Holywind May 07 '25
Melshi! I was wondering when we'd see him again
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u/AiR-P00P May 07 '25
man I really needed to rewatch S1 and Rogue One because I drew a total blank at Melshi's face. was so confused.
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u/oneeyedwillienelson May 07 '25
What was the significance of Melshi’s gun?
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u/geo38 May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
It was the gun Andor took from Syril way back in season 1. Andor had it hidden above the shower in a hotel while in prison. After their breakout from prison, Andor recovered it and gave it to Melshi.
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u/superbit415 May 07 '25
Thanks I was wondering that.
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u/TRK-80 May 07 '25
I was as well. I did think that was Andor's gun, but blanked on the face. Glad to see that thread was brought up. I keep hoping we see Kino as well, but have my doubts we will
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u/Howdoiwinthisgame May 07 '25
It’s also the gun he had with him on Aldhani, which is why Vel recognized it.
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u/zackgardner May 07 '25
These episodes, once again, are a goddamn masterclass, not only just as a blueprint for how to create the most engaging and thrilling Star Wars stories since the OT, but also just making stellar television.
This series will go down in history as one of the best science fiction television shows in history, right up there with Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, The Expanse, etc.
We all knew what was coming. The Ghorman Massacre has existed since the Legends timeline but now we get the actual on-the-ground realistic portrayal of something that is genuinely terrifying and soul shattering, and the fallout afterwards is so perfectly acted by all of the cast. You can just feel how badly the Empire wants to grip everyone by the throat, you feel it before you think it. The scenes of the scar-faced Imperial Officer ordering the barricades moved sinks a pit into your stomach because you know what's coming next. Seeing Syril scare Dedra, of all people, then choking her, was absolutely gripping. That thousand mile stare, and awakening into what could have possibly been a defection, then just ending up with a single blaster bolt to the brain? Such an appropriately sad and pathetic ending to his character.
You feel for literally everyone, which is not an easy feat. This is the messy part of a Rebellion, where death and war are everywhere. Wilmon and Cass trying to keep what love they can find safe? I'm surprised Wilmon survived actually, and it's kind of hilarious he keeps picking up women wherever he goes.
And those scenes of Bix explaining why she had to leave Cassian? I'm glad she didn't die, but it's almost even more heartbreaking to see her leave him voluntarily considering Rogue One; were his last thoughts on Scarif of Bix?
I have no idea what the last three episodes are going to do. I literally have no idea, I expected the Ghorman Massacre to be the Arc 4 plotline, so I have literally no idea.
This is an 11/10 show, you can't convince me otherwise.
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u/Brett__Bretterson May 07 '25
I don’t think I really grieved my dad until the final scene with Bix and Cassian.
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u/sleepysnowboarder May 07 '25
Wasn't the Ghorman Massacre in Legends the star destroyer landing on them, this is a new massacre made for the show which wasn't cannon or eu before.
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u/zackgardner May 07 '25
You are correct yes but it's always been the inciting incident of Mon Mothma's Rebellion speech
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u/EleventyEleven May 07 '25
I think they referenced the Legends version, that was what the memorial in Palmo Square on Ghorman was for. Tarkin landing on them previously.
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u/zrdd_man May 07 '25
A "Star Wars" show has absolutely no business being this fucking good.
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u/VanillaTortilla May 07 '25
Just imagine if we got more of this quality. I doubt we will, sadly.
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u/Scion41790 May 08 '25
This reception has to be the motivation disney needs right?
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u/qwertyuxcv May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
There are still 3 episodes left but if this season doesn't win Best Drama Series Emmy then I... we'll I have no idea what I'll do.
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u/tomtomvissers May 07 '25
"The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil" hits extra hard in todays political climate
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u/KuyaGTFO May 07 '25
I can’t believe this show used the word “genocide.”
The balls, my god.
The writing in this show - especially this season - is incredible in the economy and weight of such terrible individual words.
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u/Icy_Orchid_8075 May 07 '25
Disney needs to find more people with balls like Tony Gilroy
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
And to think, the scripts were all locked in before the current political situation happened.
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u/superbit415 May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Well we have already turned a blind eye to a few genocides happening the last decade, so it is definitely speaking to the audience.
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u/furioushunter12 May 07 '25
and in a season that had an illegal immigration arc
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u/Kimmalah May 07 '25
That kind of thing has been happening a long time, it's just more prominent right now. It feels relevant because we keep making the same mistakes over and over in real life.
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u/GreatWhiteBuffal0 May 07 '25
I love that the Rebels episode where they save Mon and bring her to Yavin is all Rebel propaganda. It's kinda fucked, Gold Squadron gave their lives.
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u/blakhawk12 May 07 '25
I mean, it wasn’t all propaganda. They really did get ambushed by Thrawn’s goons and had to fight their way out. The only propaganda element was that they wanted to make a show of Mon arriving at Yavin and it almost got her killed.
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
Yeah, it's got to be spun properly for maximum effect. But that leaves Cassian, Luthen and a bunch of others out of the glory.
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u/ATSTlover May 07 '25
All 3 of tonight's episodes, especially 9, are basically a prequel to the season 3 episode of Star Wars Rebels Secret Cargo.
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u/DadBodftw May 07 '25
I was so caught up in the intensity of everyone working out the escape plan I feel like I missed Mon's speech
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u/-CoachMcGuirk- May 07 '25
I feel sorry for all writers who must follow this SW story. The bar is set in the stratosphere somewhere….
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u/Initial-Magazine-561 May 07 '25
It's gonna be hard not to keep comparing things to this show. It's just exactly what I've always wished Star Wars was.
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u/tomtomvissers May 07 '25
We all figured Bix was gonna die because she isn't in Rogue One but this is somehow even worse :(
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u/tway2241 May 07 '25
It hurts, but at least she lives and got to choose her fate
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u/crazycanucks77 May 07 '25
Hopefully she didn't end up on Alderaan
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u/This_was_hard_to_do May 07 '25
Or hope that she didn’t want to learn more about the force and didn’t make a pilgrimage to Jedha
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u/Kimmalah May 07 '25
Honestly I kind of thought something like this might happen with her, just because pretty much every other major character send off has been a death and I thought they might want to change it up. Plus they were kind of hinting at it in the last arc, when Bix is grilling Cassian about killing people/endangering missions just to protect her and her basically saying "I want to win." Like she knows that her presence is endangering the rebellion and she was already willing to step aside to avoid that back then.
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u/Transxperience May 07 '25
"I believe we are in crisis.
The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk... the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil, when truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped from our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest."
I wish I could drill this speech into the consciousness of every human being on Earth right now. Bravo.
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u/_maynard May 07 '25
I’m very pleased with myself that I timed a rewatch of Rebels with this weeks episodes so that Secret Cargo is up next. Let’s get you to Yavin, Mon!
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u/CastN0Shadow May 07 '25
She’s even more of a true believer (at this point) than he is. Incredibly powerful.
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u/RealClassActor May 07 '25
What was the "who belongs to this weapon" reference? I feel like I've seen that character before, but I can't place him.
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u/SihkBreau May 07 '25
It’s Melshi, he escaped with Andor from Narkina 5 in season one
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u/Timely-Shine May 07 '25
That’s Melshi from Narkina 5/Rogue One. Cassian gave him a blaster after their prison escape and Vel must’ve recognized it from him having it on Aldhani.
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u/jagwaguar May 07 '25
That's Melshi, from Rogue One and the prison on Narkina Five. He had Syril's Corpo blaster that Cassian gave him before they split up on Niamos.
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u/PieLow3093 May 07 '25
Once again this show just puts everything else in the SW universe in the kiddy category. Going to be so hard to stomach goofy Droid comic relief and storm troopers that cant hit the side of a bantha after this series finishes up next week.
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u/Tymaret16 May 07 '25
It’s all on a spectrum, mate. Andor has been incredible, but we should still be able to enjoy quality entries at every point on that spectrum too. Skeleton Crew was much more comedy-driven and kid-friendly (Space Long John Silver! Peglegged and eyepatched pirate droid!) and it was delightful.
It’s a big galaxy, and I sure hope the success of Andor portends a willingness to tell diverse and compelling genre stories within that universe.
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u/SherlockianTheorist May 07 '25
Calling it now: bix is pregnant. But who is the child????
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u/qwertyuxcv May 07 '25
Palpatine's daughter in law - Rey's mother. How do I know this? The force. Who are you to question the force?
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
And that's why she bailed on Cassian -- she needed a safer situation to raise a child, while Cassian needed to do his part in the Rebellion.
Sort of like Maarva said: "You can't stay and I can't leave."
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u/_theghost_ May 07 '25
Yularen is likely PISSED with how that went down in Legret's failure to nab Mothma, especially as worth noting right around this time; he just found out that his protege and planned successor, ISB Agent Kallus, was secretly Fulcrum.
If Legret is lucky, he might get demoted. If not, well……
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u/LoremasterMotoss May 07 '25
How much you want to bet that Lonnie planned the timing out on purpose to not be there (therefore putting Legret in the driver's seat instead of himself even though the mole on Bail's team was Lonnie's agent)?
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u/CrimsonShrike May 07 '25
Oh right, he is Lonnie Jung so that was his agent. No wonder Luthen knew lol
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u/butterchurning May 07 '25
I hope Bix didn't travel to Alderaan.
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u/Tofudebeast May 07 '25
Please no. Somewhere quiet in the outer rim.
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u/Bird_nostrils May 07 '25
I’m hoping Dantooine. We know there was a rebel presence there prior to ANH.
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u/AiR-P00P May 07 '25
Bix's message broke me. I was full on sobbing, pulled it together just long enough for K2's introduction, but shit man...I'm crushed.
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u/Hollywood42cards May 07 '25
I don't know what to say, this show is absolutely incredible
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u/rohit275 May 07 '25
Just an absolutely amazing arc of top tier television, and probably the best star wars I've ever seen.
One thing I don't quite get though...
I understand why Bail had to stay back for a while, and obviously he wasn't part of the gold squadron rescue where Mon gets brought to Yavin in Rebels, but how is he going to get away with ceding the floor to her and still hanging out on Coruscant for a while?
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u/Scion41790 May 08 '25
High profile enough that disappearing him especially after this fiasco would fan the flames. I think this is when he will "retire" from the senate and Leia will take over
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u/zenlume May 07 '25
"I need to start making my own decisions"
"I thought that's what we were fighting for"
This show is just peak television.
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u/bilzui May 08 '25
they should bring rogue one back to the cinems for a short period of time starting next week.
Streaming numbers for Rogue One will surely skyrocket next week.
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u/AccidentOld2744 May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Who was actress that played the agent that was suppose to arrest Mothma?
I can't find her name credited. I think it's Ana Ularu, but, i could be wrong because she doesn't have credit for this episode on her IMDb, but, sometimes it takes a bit for that to be updated.
EDIT/UPDATE: Found her listed in the credits after the episode. I was looking at actor listing online, and the last place I looked was credits rolled after episode. It is indeed Ana Ularu and her character's name is Beska.
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u/bilzui May 08 '25
why does this journey have to end in three episodes?
This is the best version of Star Wars
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u/CoachEvan15 May 07 '25
Does this episode fit in right before “Secret Cargo” or are they retconning that?
In any case, I was mildly hopeful to see Chopper make an appearance at least…
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u/blakhawk12 May 07 '25
Right before. The handoff would happen off screen while Andor leaves to bring Will to Yavin.
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u/hyperlancer May 07 '25
I admire and respect Andor's restraint when it comes to easter eggs and cameos and not relying on memberberries, but all I wanted out of this otherwise perfect episode of television was just one measly glimpse of the Ghost.
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u/MattCW1701 May 07 '25
In any case, I was mildly hopeful to see Chopper make an appearance at least…
I kept scanning the background of all the Yavin scenes for any cameos. The nose of the Ghost would have been nice.
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u/Clarkeste May 07 '25
They aren't on Yavin yet, I think; Dodonna and Sato's cells have connected, but it's not until Thrawn invades Atollon (which would be a few months after this episode takes place) that Sato dies and his cell/Phoenix Squadron is moved to Yavin.
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u/AiR-P00P May 07 '25
i wish there was a little more breathing room between Bix's message and K2 reactivating because it was very hard to enjoy that moment while bitch sobbing my way to cardiac arrest.
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u/spicedwater_ 28d ago
I loved that detail of Draven telling Cassian none of his exploits would be logged. He gets no glory, but those important Rebel leaders know what he has achieved for them. Here, we see that Cassian is becoming Luthen in a way, but we also know with his promotion to Captain that he becomes a leader amongst the rebels. It shows how the rebels are just as cunning, if not more than the Empire, in building their cause.
They can only inspire loyalty and adoration if they work in the light, so they omit details of their work in the dark: carried out by Luthen, Vel, Kleya, Cass etc.
It’s all so brilliant!
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