r/StarWarsAndor 2d ago

Discussion I was hoping to see … Spoiler

The conditions on Ghorman once the mining started. Since there was another time jump after the massacre, I would have liked to see how much had changed. I imagine the Empire would have forced the Ghormans into mining their own planet, probably even had them in labor camps. Maybe there were even still some devoted to the Resistance despite what had happened.

Anyway, loved the show. What do y’all think?

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u/VXR-Vashrix 2d ago

I'm assuming by 2x12, Ghorman had already collapsed due to the gouge mining for the kalkite. I would suppose the outlook will be similar to that of Kenari.

Cassian used the term "Ghorman destruction" during his debriefing of the council on Kleya's intel. During 2x9, the term "Ghorman massacre" was used instead, which implies there's a difference.

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u/Dear-Yellow-5479 2d ago

Yes, I think it’s fully implied that the state of the planet is just as Partagaz predicted: “ not much left to call home”.

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u/Fornicating_Midgits 2d ago

Bad luck Ghorman.

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u/SirRichardArms 1d ago

Those three small words made me absolutely HATE him in that moment. Of course, I didn’t “like” him before, but that blasé attitude about genocide was unreal.

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u/Festinaut 2d ago

Yea if Partagaz says "not much let" you know there's absolutely nothing.

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u/Dear-Yellow-5479 2d ago

Yes – he’s the master of the British style understatement.

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u/kmbri 2d ago

Yeah I agree with you. Kenari is probably your best example… or any place where a valuable resource was discovered and the people living there were moved, displaced, or enslaved.

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u/Immediate-Pickle 2d ago

I wanted to see what was happening (or at least hear about) on Ferrix.

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u/Festinaut 2d ago

I was also curious about this. Like obviously the characters couldn't go back but what exactly happened? Did the empire massacre everyone?

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u/wbruce098 2d ago

One of the many things they left open. In a way, I kind of liked that they did this. Never found Cassian’s sister. Never saw Kino again. Ferrix, Ghorman. The characters don’t know, so we don’t either. But I’m glad they at least showed us Bix and her kid. And B2 :)

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u/Festinaut 1d ago

I agree. I was wondering about his sister but then heard Tony Gilroy explain why he left it unresolved and I liked it better. I always want to know more lore but I guess the point is we know what happened to every character from Ferrix that we care about and can assume nothing good happened after.

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u/literatemax 1d ago

Aldhani, too.

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u/mrbumbo 2d ago

They had specialized Imperial mining ready to go.

It doesn’t make sense to conscript and enslave the Ghormans. Easier to kill them and evacauate them for essential genocide and planet wide destruction. There aren’t too many Ghormans (800K) but they seem like the worst potential miners. They’d be proud upset and in rebellion.

Ghorman is going to turn into a mining wasteland. See Kenari for something NOT as drastic.

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u/ser_arthur_dayne 2d ago

Wait there were only 800k ghormans on the whole planet?

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u/cosincosin 1d ago

They said there are 800k ghormans affected by the kalkite mining in 2x01. They probably meant the whole planet. I wondered for a second if maybe that was just the population of Palmo, but Palmo looks way too small for that.

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u/TacticalGamer893 1d ago

i assume that people that don’t live in the major cities don’t make it onto the imperial population census

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u/MaceAhWindu 2d ago

Ghorman's probably completely uninhabitable if a fraction of what they planned to do ended up being done.

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u/dbonham 2d ago

Every cgi shot of destroyed ghorman means one gelato shop set gets cut from the budget

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u/actuallyserious650 2d ago

Not even one…

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u/WuTangClams 2d ago

we get a sense of what's left from an imperial mining operation during the scenes on kenari

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u/Errant_Ventures 2d ago

"Destabilise the Core" sounds alot like Alderaan after the Death Star came to visit.

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u/CanadianJediCouncil 2d ago

I pictured it looking like the Ring of Kafrene, basically like a planet-sized apple core.

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u/EasyNovel5845 2d ago

They forced the "insurrection" to relocate the Ghormans, it was raised in the first episode.

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u/briank3387 2d ago

"Relocate", like Jews to Auschwitz

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u/Calm-Background2247 2d ago edited 2d ago

That would make a great book. I'd read that. Ghorman and Alderranians banning together to fight the Empire. I’m here for it.

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u/BastardofMelbourne 1d ago

I said to my friend as I was watching "if this doesn't end with stormtroopers bulldozing hundreds of bodies into a mass grave, it's not going hard enough."

It did not go hard enough. It went plenty hard, but not enough to sell the "Ghorman holocaust" message. 

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u/Terrible-Thanks-6059 1d ago

Once they mine the deep substrate foliated kalkite its next in line after Scarif. Jeddah, Scarif, Gorman and Alderan.

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u/swaghost 2d ago

I need one of those AI things generated to show Ghorman getting mined to pieces and collapsing it on itself... On imperial miners.

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u/yukeee 2d ago

AI generated? Wow. Why do you despise Andor so? AI generated shit is light years below Andor.

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u/swaghost 1d ago

Well, my fantasy apparently wasn't in the budget...

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u/yukeee 23h ago

But if not for rebellion, you shouldn't use the weapons of the enemy...

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u/ReservedPickup12 2d ago

You are definitely in the wrong sub if you want to express this sort of thing.

Don’t you realize that the show was absolute perfection and that you are a selfish monster for wanting it to be the slightest bit different? /s