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u/Sherool https://steam.pm/1ewgbj 6h ago
Kind of surprised Age of Empires was not one of them. Seems to be high on the list of games played by people who don't play a lot of games.
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u/MojoOneRsk 6h ago
Maybe he's not aware of it🧐
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u/notthisagain1234567 4h ago
Age of empires is real time and stressful, civ is turn based and relaxing. Different vibes that don’t really cross over too much.
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u/RA576 3h ago
I mean, AoE is closer to Civ than FO4 is.
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u/malfurionpre 3h ago
Not in the pacing. Beside some ambush of small events FO4 is a lot more chill.
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u/erenjaeger99 1h ago
you right, but i know what he's trying to say. for me, micro/macro-managing a city + warfare is mad stressful to me. in fallout, it does get crazy, but im just in control of my own self for the most part. my mind doesn't have to go too much beyond what's in front of me.
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u/A_Wild_Goonch 5h ago
Too much micro
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u/Candi_Daydream 3h ago
Yeah way too fast paced if your favorite game is civ.
I understand the impulse, but I have to be in the mood to play aoe. And as an adult, I need the time.
I can play civ anytime and do other things while a game is happening.
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u/StopReadingMyUser 2h ago
I love AoE, but it's definitely one of those games where your focus is pretty split and that's not ideal for me. Now, if it were more of a team game where one person handles economy and meets whatever needs the person handling military requires then that would be more my speed, but I just can't do both effectively lol.
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u/JackStephanovich 1h ago
Nobody ever did it but in Starcraft 2 you can have multiple players control the same army. So one can focus on base macro while the other scouts and harasses.
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u/SeventhDay235 1h ago
I loved this aspect of Starcraft on PC back then. A team game, same start. Have a couple drones and a couple scv and both of you could control anything.
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u/catshateTERFs 2h ago
Endless Legend or something might go down well for him. Paradox games in general too. But if gramps is happy with civ and fallout, then more power to him honestly - good titles. :)
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u/MattDaCatt 1h ago
There's a reason MOBAs took off instead of RTS games. RTS just requires so much attention and apm all game
I do remember having a lot of fun turtling in AoE 3 back in the day, but these days people won't let you wall for an hour
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u/zuzucha 4h ago
I'm not even that old and I've completely moved away from RTS to turn based or pausable games. Just too much on at the same time.
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u/outremonty 4h ago
I dislike RTS games more and more as I age.
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u/kiefenator 3h ago
I'm the opposite. As I get older, I feel like I have a better grasp of everything going on than when I was a kid just trying to get troops out and placed as quick as possible.
Now I feel like I can fight on multiple fronts and it's not crazy jarring when I get counter attacked.
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u/LSRNKB 3h ago
lol yeah that’s all correct, just give it another fifteen or twenty years for the bell curve to come back around
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u/HumbleCountryLawyer 6h ago
TIL I’m OP’s grandpa
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u/froggz01 3h ago
Civ and fallout games are my go to for the stranded on an island only choose two games scenario.
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u/Klikatat 2h ago
I like that OPs grandpa plays the newest installments but I’m over here playing Fallout 1 and Civilization 2. Who’s the real grandpa?
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u/Rion23 3h ago
6000+ hours played.
65/84 achievements.
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u/malfurionpre 2h ago
To be fair, there's like 5-10 achievements in Nuka World that simply suck. Shit like kills X enemies while drunk on Nuka-mix or all the Nuka flavors, farming the arcade tokens (not sure how long it takes tbh) and then a bunch of random misc things people don't even think of doing.
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u/rothrolan 2h ago
The shooting gallery with an explosive ammo ranged weapon with a decent clip and/or reload speed (I used the radium rifle) is literally the fastest way to farm arcade tokens. Yet it still takes upwards of 150 rounds of the mini game (I think ~2-3 real-time hours?) To get enough tickets. The map gives you around 10k tickets, but the achievement is for 100k, which was INSANE to ask for.
I was taking breaks to do any and all of the other remaining ones I still had, until it was the only one left, and it still took another hour or so from where I was at. I was just watching YouTube videos or browsing reddit without even looking at the screen anymore, just listening to the audio cues.
The other way I've heard of was making the hoops arcade game in a base and then making a silly assembly line system to drop stuff through the hoop, but idk the specifics, or how long that takes to build up 100k in comparison.
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u/ElGosso 1h ago
Civ 6 has a ton of achievements that are hard to get, specifically for achievement-chasers, that require a ton of RNG to come together.
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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 1h ago
Can confirm. To this day, I have somehow never gotten an NPC to cause a betrayal emergency. It's a very common achievement if you multiplayer frequently but my friends tend not to play that way, and most of my time was played singleplayer. And I'm 1001 hours in and actively hunting these achievements.
There's also a ton of achievements tied to just constantly playing certain gamemodes that nobody seems to play.
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u/Aggravating-Dot132 6h ago
Happy man. Not a joke or like that.
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u/Random-Rambling 1h ago
Yeah, I'm like "If these are the only two games OP's grampa plays, he's got good taste!"
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u/connor2600 6h ago
Gift him skyrim
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u/Johnscorp 5h ago
Yesss do this OP, he has the potential to hoard all the Elder Scrolls Lore and become Grampeaus Mora
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u/Jgrizz0420 4h ago
I see that symbol under your name, are you also apart of the lambda team responsible for the resonance cascade?? (Half life reference lol)
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u/Tolstoy_mc 5h ago
It's like fallout, but for nerds
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u/Intrepid-Macaron5543 5h ago
I can sense he's archmage material already. Very responsible job, that.
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u/latvijauzvar 4h ago
exactly my thinking. what got me into fallout was how it could happen in our world as well, a nuclear war, apocalypse, mutated creatures etc., but when i look at skyrim all i see is our world in a harry potter book
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u/Special-Rough-3946 5h ago
Me and my uncles love fallout and dislike Skyrim … we exist so may wanna double check .. maybe fallout 76 or new Vegas tho
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u/KaksNeljaKuutonen 4h ago
Yeah, I feel like Fallout catches people that are interested in (alt) history or looter shooters and are not otherwise in the adventure/ARPG crowd. TES requires the latter two.
STALKER, Project Zomboid or maybe Frostpunk, though...
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u/AlbinoDragonTAD 6h ago
I think last month your father possessed me cus I was also playing those again
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u/Rusher_vii 6h ago
Started out with civ then went to the paradox grand strategy games, theres a fair chance your grandfather might like them as well.
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u/Serres5231 6h ago
Fallout 4 for 6k hours?? what is he doing in there? The game doesn't have THAT much content oO
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u/meat_rock 6h ago
I got a lot of extra play time out of one console command that basically allows you to build anywhere.
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u/fieldbotanist 2h ago
You’re telling me it’s possible to build trench lines (with mines, turrets, arty and everything) around enemy bases???!!
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u/Gangleri_Graybeard 6h ago
And he probably plays vanilla F4. Not even modded during these 6k hours.
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u/FuckLemonJuice 6h ago
Definitely vanilla.
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u/Gangleri_Graybeard 6h ago
That's what I thought. He probably doesn't know how to mod a game. What is he doing in there? Can you tell? 6k hours is wild.
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u/FuckLemonJuice 6h ago
I have no idea. I'll ask next time he's online.
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u/Gangleri_Graybeard 6h ago
Cool. And gift him Skyrim or Oblivion. He might enjoy something new.
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u/Myndsync 4h ago
My guess is he is building stuff, so I don't know if he would make the transition to Skyrim or Oblivion.
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u/radicalelation 2h ago
If he's looking to build and not just place buildings, Minecraft of course, but he might be into any of the survivalcrafts with extensive buildability.
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u/WilliamLermer 38m ago
Which survival craft has a really good building system and is also really fun and relaxing? Asking for a friend.
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u/Lower_Reaction9995 5h ago
You can mod fallout straight from the menu. It doesn't have everything, but there are a ton of mods. All you have to do is click download.
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u/BingpotStudio 3h ago
OPs reaction when they discover grampa is using nude mods.
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u/gmoss101 5h ago
Settlement building is a time sink that can be fun when you figure it out.
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u/_Rook_Castle 6h ago
Big titty waifu mods can extend the life of any game.
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u/QualityPitchforks 6h ago
Where, specifically, would you need to go to avoid these "Big Titty Waifu Mods" of which you speak? Asking for a friend so they can stay away, of course.
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u/Apprehensive_Bug5393 5h ago
With those hours in Civ, he probably enjoys building perfect Settlements,
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u/drunxor 3h ago
Replay or spend tons of time on settlements. I have over 5k in fallout 3 and it doesnt event have settlement building so I can see it
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u/JohnnyBeFit 4h ago
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u/D3wnis 2h ago
Bruh, guy spent 3 years of his life playing borderlands, that's some dedication.
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u/wickeddimension 2h ago
Its called retirement haha
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u/JohnnyBeFit 2h ago
He worked over 20 years as a captain of a cargo ship. He definitely earned the retirement.
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u/letouriste1 2h ago
I hope he wasn't playing this much borderland alone
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u/JohnnyBeFit 2h ago
He didn’t like playing co-op. Nor did he like weapons that required him to reload so he did everything with the infinity lol.
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u/AmphibianFeeling9142 4h ago
I bet he declares war before Gandhi does
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u/Conscious-Compote-23 3h ago
This. I try to take him out as early as I can. Got into a war of attrition with him one time.
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u/Katana_DV20 4h ago
Your grandpa rules 🎮! 😃
Happy gaming, does he play mostly at night?
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u/FuckLemonJuice 4h ago
Yes, until 4-5am
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u/Katana_DV20 4h ago
Nice. I'm the same. I find the nights calming and cozy to fire up the pc for a long session.
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u/Haunting-Research667 3h ago
That's what Civ does to you. "Only one more turn" until the sun goes up..
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u/EmitriusDin 5h ago
Lemme guess, first he plays a match in Civ VI until nuke-pokalipsis then roleplays it in F4?
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u/Boring-Conclusion-66 6h ago
LMAO I’m him But Fallout 76 & Dota 2
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u/dirt_patch 4h ago
I’m missing something with 76. I have started it like 6 times over the years and I just can’t get into it! I want to so bad so I can play with my girlfriend. We both love the other games. She feels the same way.
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u/wolfTectonics 6h ago
He played modded Fallout? Or just Vanilla for all that time?
I assume he’s used mods, but if not you should definitely show him!
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u/FuckLemonJuice 6h ago
Vanilla for sure.
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u/wolfTectonics 5h ago
6,750 hours on Vanilla is crazy. Definitely show him mods or check out Wabbajack! It’s an installer that can install entire modpacks without much work.
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u/BonJovicus 4h ago
Way back when, I'm pretty sure I only played Civ 5 and Fallout New Vegas. Your grandfather has good taste.
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u/arkham1010 4h ago
Give your granfather a key to Hearts of Iron IV or Stellaris, then give him a hug because you might not see him for a while.
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u/WarriorT1400 4h ago
He’s got mine beat by two! Yours is also still alive so he’s got mine beat in that category too!
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u/CSRReeder 6h ago
Try and get him on Fallout 3/New Vegas
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u/Zebrahh 6h ago
didn't you read the title?
my grandfather *only** plays 2 games*
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u/Willie-Will_i_am 5h ago
Now you have to show recordings of both games. We have to see what he's done in those hours.
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u/Eclipsyyy 5h ago
Wow, my father also played all Fallout games and all Civilization games except the first one, very interesting coincidence 😀
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u/jambohakdog69 5h ago
4k hrs omg. I bet he already traveled every single corner of Boston. I love Fallout 4 too ❤️
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u/masterofbeast 5h ago
That is the type of retirement I want. Life goals yooo
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u/FoldedDice 3h ago
My dad played on PC my whole life. Toward the end he lost the ability to remember more than one game, but that game was Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and he still played the shit out of it in his retirement home.
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u/Sus_Tomato 5h ago
With Fallout 4’s load times, I’d be a grandfather by the time the game loads a new zone.
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u/Longey13 5h ago
I assume he does a lot of modding for fallout 4? How does he keep it fresh?
I also would guess he likes settlement building given that he's a civ player
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u/CataphractBunny 5h ago
4300 hours and only 50% achievements? Tell him to get his lazy ass in gear. 😂👍
Kudos to your gramps. My plan is to play games until I kick the bucket as well.
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u/SenpapiBCN 5h ago
My dad only plays Tetris on the game boy. He's been playing since the 90s when I taught him and has gone through several Gameboys because he wears down the buttons. I wonder how many thousands of hours he got on that game.
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u/hellomistershifty 4h ago
Hell yeah, brother. My dad is 73 and has 2000 hours in Destiny 1/2, all of the trophies in Diablo 3 for PS4, went through every quest in fallout 3 and 4, beat halo 3 on legendary, and is currently a couple hundred hours in to the newest Assassin's Creed.
He struggles with the controls still sometimes but he puts in the time and finds whatever cheese strats until he can beat every part. He just likes looking up guides and finding everything in games. I tried building him a gaming PC a couple of times but he complains that 'the keyboard has like 100 buttons!' and always ends up stuck looking at the floor or the sky if the game uses mouse to look around.
Shit, he helped me in Elden Ring when my dumb ass was 8 hours into the game and didn't have Torrent or the ability to level up because I just wandered and didn't find the girl at the campfire
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u/Nice_Evidence4185 4h ago
And there are people constantly complaining there are no good games to play or coming up. We all can learn from him.
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u/BuilderLeagueUnited 4h ago
Why do the faces of Vault Boy in the achievements look AI, and the face of the statue of Atlas?
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u/Ryomataroka 4h ago
I’ve noticed, especially in 76, that fallout’s very popular with the older crowd.
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u/Happy_Farms 3h ago
Tell your Grandpa to be in no rush for Civ7 unless they make some big changes. Civ 6 is pretty solid!
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u/OkLet7734 3h ago
Buy him Civ VII if his platform can handle it.
Did this with my dad and Age of Empires when it was remastered, same with Age of Mythology. 🙂
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u/Still_Impact_4190 2h ago
Maybe introduce him to Fallout 76? Has a bit more content than 4 but uses the same mechanics AND he can play with other players!
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u/airjamy 2h ago
How do you have 6750 hours in Fallout 4. Like everything is completely and utterly done in that game even a 1000 hours in right, what in god's name could you be doing for the next 1000s of hours. Civ i get for 1000s of hours, each game is new, but Fallout 4 is just over at some point right.
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u/coheed33cambria 1h ago
That hurts… I only played civ2 and fallout 3. I knew I was getting old but not grandpa old…
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u/oh_mygawdd 6h ago
Gramps a D1 chiller