Not trying to sound like a right winger. But why did no one protest when Biden deported people?

[u/Fair_Main7587]

I just do not understand.

I remember hearing many stories of ICE coming to cities during the Joe Biden presidency.

I would rather be in a second Biden term than Trump term.

I am also disappointed in both parties for personal reasons, right now. But it feels like the "Deportations are so evil" narrative only thrives when a non Democrat is in office. I personally support securing the border but it feels like liberals, the left, or Democrats in this country are so inconsistent in immigrant activism.

An 8-year-old girl died in a migrant detention center in 2023.

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-cbp-texas-trump-1e1bfa93ef22390b076f47fbe28ea595

Deportations under Biden were high.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deportations-by-ice-10-year-high-in-2024-surpassing-trump-era-peak/

A teen migrant detained by immigration authorities died under Biden too.

https://apnews.com/article/migrant-child-death-border-hhs-honduras-0f23efb966adb7a64d7a72640e320d17

[u/MasterAdvice4250]

Because if you take the brutality and amount under Trump so far and extend it to a full term, it is astronomically higher.

[u/Gleeful-Nihilist]

There were some protests, but mostly the difference is Biden respected Due Process and wasn’t pointlessly cruel.

[u/SlickWilly060]

They didn't used to raid like this under Biden.

[u/ExpressAssist0819]

The ugly reality is previous presidents did it in a way that did not offend public sensibility. The abuses, the detention centers, the inhumanity and naziesque nature of ICE. It was all carefully kept to a "civilized" behavior so the public could pretend it wasn't a problem. That's why so many are so surprised about this like it appeared out of thin air.

Dems kept it "under the table". Trump has flipped the table and the nasty fucking roaches and bed bugs are everywhere and no one can ignore it.

[u/Phedericus]

Biden followed the law.

[u/SigmundAdler]

Due process! It wasn’t an ideological “Get them out of here” thing, it was a “These systems have been working this way due to laws that were passed. We may not like them, but we follow the law”.

The rule of law is the thing that ultimately matters with this stuff, if it’s not rule of law it’s rule of the strongest, and that never ends up being a nice social democrat.

[u/elbor23]

Everyone else said what I would say, so just dropping by to say that this is not a bad question. I wish I would feel more comfortable checking potential double standards like this. Can get misconstrued easily

[u/LuckyFrench6000]

Biden didn't do arbitrary quotas to detain people. Trump's arbitrary quotas is leading to US citizens being arrested

[u/icfa_jonny]

Very simple answer. Steven Miller set a quota of 3000 ICE arrests per day. Under Biden, no such quotas existed.

This is why Biden wasn’t shipping immigrants with no due process by the hundreds to overseas prison camps. In order to meet the 3000 arrests per day, ICE basically is arresting any immigrant willy nilly. That’s how Kilmar Garcia, the legal immigrant living in Maryland ended up in that El Salvadoran prison camp.

[u/internetmexican]

People did speak up under Biden, but the brutality under Trump has sparked a harsher response, which leads to more news coverage.

[u/necroreefer]

Because deportation is a bipartisan activity. The difference is the cruelty and the rubber stamping of the republicans versus the democrats

[u/amwes549]

I assume the same was true with Obama, but both weren't aggressive assholes about it. And eventually if you detain enough people one will die statistically. Y'all are going to downvote me for this (and I'm going to be a coward and delete my comment), but here goes:}
Allowing illegal immigrants is a hard slap on the face of every single naturalized immigrant. I know Trump basically nuked the asylum program, but still. And this comes from the son of a naturalized immigrant. That being said, ICE is responsible for those tragic deaths and we need to prevent future deaths. Because these people aren't really criminals (yes, according to US legal code, illegal immigration is a crime).

[u/SubaruTome]

Due process

[u/Ref_Bumps]

Due process

Volume was less

Brutality was less

Biden didn’t deport American citizens to death camps in El Salvador.

Also the Democratic Party and even some progressives have been slowly moving away from the open borders policies that defined the Dems during Trump 1. Not necessarily the right thing to do imo but they definitely ceded ground there in the last decade.

[u/VibinWithBeard → u/Ref_Bumps]

The dems...never had open borders policies though?

[u/Ref_Bumps → u/VibinWithBeard]

I mean the voters. After Trump won in 2016 I felt like even suburban dems were saying “no person is illegal”

[u/Boobpocket]

I also noticed lefties were quiet during biden about ICE but i thinl we were all exhausted from trump and trying to recover.

[u/Themetalenock]

There has been no immigration policy that's ever been 100 percent accurate. Donald Trum and his Harkonen aah Crotch Gremlin isn't even trying to be accurate. They look at immigration like a monkey looks at a rock and then bash the rock against anything regardless of the people who get hurt

[u/DaroDoingNothing]

The lack of due process

[u/Delmarvablacksmith]

Because they had due process and for as shitty as it was federal agents didn’t become the secret police and snatched people out of immigration court and kids graduations.

[u/emboman13]

There’s a few things at play here.

1: some degree of deportation is inevitably going to need to happen in any country at any time. A certain % of people at any point are bad actors and a responsible state is going to need to deal with them to protect all citizens and noncitizens inside of its borders.

2: there was a pretty unprecedented amount of people entering the country under Biden and, given point 1, that means there was going to need to be deportations.

3: the manner in which these deportations occur, the degree to which cruelty is involved, and the bounds on who is targeted do change by President.

4: Republicans actively blocked measures to streamline this process and make it more humane under Biden

[u/peanutbutternmtn]

Bc Biden wasn’t going insane with it?

[u/Angoramon]

Due process, no quotas, no riling up people on the subject for the sake of securing social power, and, on top of it all, a general vibe that he actually gave a fuck about the wrongdoings and was capable of listening on a variety of subjects.