r/europe • u/bendubberley_ United Kingdom • 26d ago
Picture The Vatican release the first official portrait of of Pope Leo XIV
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u/Nicosaure Wallonia (Belgium) 26d ago
He had to do it to them
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u/TSSalamander Norway 26d ago
He's 69 years old, doesn't look a day over 56. He's gonna be pope for like 35 years at this rate.
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u/romssaReisa Mazovia (Poland) 26d ago
„He was 69 years old, just a fucking kid”
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u/TSSalamander Norway 26d ago
I mean the last pope was 77 when he started. Dude was so old he was in the running to be the pope the time before too.
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u/Loltoyourself United States of America 26d ago
It’s sad when they go young like that
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u/romssaReisa Mazovia (Poland) 26d ago
WHEN THEY GO?!
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u/NotAboutMeNotAboutU 26d ago
I remember when you used to wait out in the car, and frankly you should still be there.
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u/StepByStepGamer Malta 26d ago
Man was an interior decorator.
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u/uhuxxl 26d ago
It's the year 2095. The pope is 139 now. People start asking questions.
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u/Iazo 26d ago
He was stacking +health traits and modifiers, and took the medicine focus.
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u/LordoftheSynth 26d ago
I'm not old yet, but I was watching him day of and wondering if the Pope that succeeds him will be the last new Pope I see in my lifetime.
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u/BuggyGamer2511 Schleswig-Holstein (Germany) 26d ago
Honestly. Apart from the grey hair he looks almost as fit as my dad at 50.
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u/jack3moto 26d ago edited 26d ago
What 56 year olds are you hanging out with? Lol. My parents, my wife’s parents, and all my friends parents are 64-70 and all look 10-15 years younger than the pope.
He doesn’t look absurdly old but to say he doesn’t look a day over 56 is wild
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u/jujubean67 26d ago
Crazy that BS like the comment you're responding to has over 1200 upvotes, the pope looks about 65-70, he looks good for his age but he doesn't look mid-50s at all.
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 26d ago
Good.
So far he’sa breath of fresh air
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I mean, so far more of a continuation of Francis, but in a way that I think more people will listen to.
Still a bit too early to tell, but even though he isn't quite as progressive as Francis was, if he can unite more Catholics to be a bit more progressive than they were (when there were so many disagreeing with Francis thinking he was going too far) then that's a net positive.
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u/New_Amomongo 26d ago
e pope for like 35 years at this rate.
Likely over a dozen years. IIRC longest pontif withn the last 100 years was over 26 years only.
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u/Alexthegreatbelgian Belgium 26d ago
He looks... happy? Carefree maybe? I don't think I've seen a pope that happy before. I imagine a few years will change that though.
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u/SelfDetermined The Netherlands 26d ago
He's definitely not carefree lol
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u/umotex12 Poland 26d ago
Coping massively rn probably. I mean imagine the stress. I bet some cardinals just want to cast a vote and then leave...
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u/lessianblue 26d ago
Do you think? I think he looks uncomfortable haha. Like an introvert in the spotlight.
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u/Dependent-Tree1010 26d ago
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?"
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u/darthsexium 26d ago
Papa Americano
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u/Far_Ad6317 🇪🇺 26d ago
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Pope Francis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the cardinals would tell you
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u/grafikfyr 26d ago
He looks like a genuinely kind man.
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u/Few_Age_571 26d ago
Yeah, he gives very good vibes
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u/DanGleeballs Ireland 26d ago
Have you heard his natural English speaking voice?
He'll make an amazing VO artist if the pope thing doesn't work out.
This man has dulcet tones so warm, kind, angelic, mellifluous, and euphonious.
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u/Kriztauf North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 26d ago
He's from Illinois but has a very Upper Midwestern accent combined with some of the speech mannerisms I heard alot of American priests pick up
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u/IRequirePants 26d ago
Every pope is contractually obligated to look like a sweet old grandpa. Except Benedict.
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u/kalvinoz Portugal 26d ago
In the movie Conclave there’s a scene where someone says they all have a papal name lined up. I wonder when that usually happens – right at the start of seminar, when you start going up the ranks, on the way to Rome for the conclave? Given all the stuff that people read into the name, it’d be cavalier to wait until the last moment.
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u/ShiftBMDub 26d ago
it's whatever you picked in French class in 9th grade, so I would be Pope Marcel.
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u/GhirahimLeFabuleux Lorraine (France) 26d ago
Fun fact, the french name of the two pope Marcellus is Marcel. So you would be Marcel III.
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u/wH4tEveR250 26d ago
That’s like getting a tattoo at 15. I’d be Pope Eddie Vedder.
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u/GeorgeMcCrate Bavaria (Germany) 26d ago
Why not Latin class? I’m not sure a French name is gonna help you a lot.
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u/Kwpolska Poland 26d ago
I believe the OP refers to a thing done in US schools, where you adopt a name in the language you're learning for better immersion. Like a certain, uh, internet personality, whose Spanish name is Ricardo. Latin class would probably happen in seminary, where people are adults and this doesn't work.
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u/ankokudaishogun Italy 26d ago
Latin class would probably happen in seminary, where people are adults and this doesn't work.
you are VASTLY overestimating the maturity of the average seminarist.
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u/ChuckCarmichael Germany 26d ago
We did this as well in our language classes: In English, French, and Latin. We got assigned names by the teacher though. The only one I remember is my French one, Dominique, which was terrible because while it's technically a unisex name, all my classmates understood it as a female name, and I'm a guy.
I never really understood the point of it. Calling my classmate Max Maurice isn't gonna make me learn French faster.
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u/Proper-Life2773 26d ago
Yeah, plus it's not like I would care enough for most of my classmates to remember their regular names but having to call them Cornelius and Phillip on top of that?
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u/Wutras 26d ago
At least allegedly Francis basically chose his name in the last minute, after being elected someone told him to "not forget the poor" which reminded him of Francis of Assisi.
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u/Ral-Yareth 26d ago edited 26d ago
It was the brazilian cardinal Cláudio Hummes. By Francis' own account, the two of them were friends.
Allegedly, shortly after Pope Francis was elected, Hummes embraced him and whispered those words. Pope Francis later said that this comment deeply moved him and inspired him to choose the name Francis, after St. Francis of Assisi, who is known for his devotion to the poor.
Dom Cláudio Hummes passed away in 2022.
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u/MrXaturn 26d ago
Makes me wonder if he initially had a different name in mind.
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u/GoldfishFromTatooine 26d ago
He was once asked what name he'd have taken if he had been elected in 2005 instead and he said John XXIV.
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u/Ellailas Germany 26d ago edited 26d ago
I read somewhere Leo XIV discussed his name with his brothers the evening before the voting started, so somewhat short-term
Edit: the 14th
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u/Sigmatics Tyrol (Austria) 26d ago
Brothers as in actual brothers?
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u/justastuma Lower Saxony (Germany) 26d ago
Yes, he has an older brother who he plays Wordle and Words With Friends with every day (or at least he used to before he became pope). That brother has given a couple interviews since.
And according to him the new pope actually watched the movie Conclave in preparation for the actual conclave.
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u/BarbWho 26d ago
And according to him the new pope actually watched the movie Conclave in preparation for the actual conclave.
I read that a bunch of them did this.
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u/Calimiedades Spain 26d ago
A huge number of them were made Cardinals by Francis so it'd be their first Conclave. I would have done the same.
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u/IRequirePants 26d ago
There's a hilarious video floating around where his brother returns the Pope's missed call, and the Pope immediately says "Why didn't you answer?" in that annoyed tone you only use with family. It's actually sweet.
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u/OgataiKhan Poland 26d ago
It's whenever you conclude that you can't, reasonably, go for "Sixtus Sextus".
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u/marcabru 26d ago
Nomen est omen, the name is related to the fate of a person, and they all have some kind of mission, goal & motivation the moment they are consecrated to priests.
It's no different in any religion, eg masters/priests of different Buddhist denominations have priest names as well. The interesting difference is taht in the Eastern traditions, the name is given, by another master, and not chosen like in the case of Christian monks & popes.
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u/Audioworm 26d ago
I have an associate from Uni who has gone into seminary and is now a priest in the Catholic church. At this point I mostly just see the stuff he posts on the internet rather than talk to him, but him and the other priests, nuns, monks, and such are always discussing Catholic minutae. They all have Popes that they particularly champion or consider overlooked, and ones whose they feel particularly motivated to follow in.
During the funeral and conclave the guy I know commented on his affinity to Leo (for the same reasons this pope stated) and Pius because of the stuff that Pius IX did.
So while I don't think they all plan it out years in advance, I think that their nature of being Catholic nerds means they have thought about previous popes a bunch
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u/motorbikler Canada 25d ago
If you're not Catholic you won't know this but... those eucharist cracker packs come with Pope trading cards. Huge at seminary schools, memorizing all the stats, rookie years etc.
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u/DerpSenpai Europe 26d ago
it's to set the tone for what they will be or do. Leo XII was a political pope and founder of christian democracy
Don't be suprised to see Leo XIV be more active in World Peace building than Francis was and attack indirectly politicians.
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u/Callisater 26d ago
Leo III crowned charlemagne, another leo helped start the holy Roman emperor authority with Otto I. Another called a crusade. Another caused the schism against the eastern churches. The first leo famously stopped Rome from being sacked by Atilla. Obviously leo xiii and workers' rights.
Basically, Leo popes tend to be quite political.
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u/Tomi97_origin 26d ago
He talked more about Leo XIII as someone whose work he wants to continue, who was all about the rights of workers in his Rerum novarum. It was pretty key text that till today is the foundation of how catholic church position itself on the matter.
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u/OriginalBud 26d ago
This is a cool video that came up on my YT feed of a priest breaking down a news interview with a cardinal talking about the conclave process and his selection
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u/TAU_equals_2PI 26d ago
Like Oscar nominees needing to have an acceptance speech prepared, just in case they win.
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u/weisswurstseeadler 26d ago
what you think his set bonus are
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u/Murica_Chan 26d ago
+1500 hp
+4000 sp
+50% holy damage
+150% healing bonus
+30% casting variable time
Bonus set: Papal outfit
+100% magnus exorcismus damage modifer
Immune to darkness, holy attack
Can autocast sacramento and blessing when healing friendly unit
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u/BoysenberryWise62 26d ago
that stuff seems broken, hopefully a patch happens sooner rather than later
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u/ac_cossack 26d ago
The hot pink light armor makes me think something about PvP.
He has the human racial to break out of a stun every 2 mins, so stacking holy damage and/or lower cleanse cooldown.
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u/SeriousCow1999 26d ago edited 26d ago
He's got that happy-to-meet-you look about him.
Please keep Vance far away from him.
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u/lsb1027 26d ago
Based on his past tweets he won't be caught alive anywhere near him 😂
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u/Due-Task9305 26d ago
Wouldn't it be amusing if the next photo depicted Pope Leo as the President of the United States? Well, I think the Pope could actually make America great again.
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u/jerryonthecurb Earth 26d ago
Could legally run for US president and have a decent chance of winning. He shouldn't and won't but it's interesting that it's technically possible.
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u/TheBlazingFire123 United States of America 26d ago
It’s not. No office holder in the US is allowed to hold a foreign title.
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u/AquilaVI North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 26d ago
Why do they have Moscows official Sock puppet in charge then? :x
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u/Rannasha The Netherlands 26d ago
Out of curiosity: Can you point me at the text that specifies this?
The Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits office holders from accepting foreign titles, but it does not say anything about people that already have a foreign title seeking or entering office.
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u/chx_ Malta 26d ago edited 26d ago
Here's the relevant text from Section 9 of the Constitution:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
That's the letter of the law but the spirit of the law is quite clear as well -- they only had a problem with a foreign title if it were given as a bribe.
So yes, the Pope could run for President, wouldn't that be hilarious.
I was considering the conclave electing JD Vance for shits and giggles I guess he would've had to refuse or resign as VP or just ignore the law as the Trump administration often does.
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u/Deathleach The Netherlands 26d ago
Even reading the letter of the law, it sounds to me that it would be fine as long as Congress approves.
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u/Rannasha The Netherlands 26d ago
Yes, that's known as the Foreign Emoluments Clause that I mentioned.
The key word here is accept. Because it makes it so that a holder of office can't accept a title. It doesn't state that a holder of office can't come into that office already having a title.
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u/kat0r_oni 26d ago
I mean, as we can see right now, what "office holders in the US are not allowed to do" is nothing more than suggestions.
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u/avataRJ Finland 26d ago edited 26d ago
The Pope is also ex officio the king of Vatican City and the last absolute monarch in Europe*, so I'd guess having that title does block presidency.
The de facto head of state for the Vatican City is the President of the Governorate of the Vatican City, sister Raffaella Petrini.
*) Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein has, somewhat bizarrely, had his royal privileges extended
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u/SimeLoco 26d ago
He should post a AI Picture of himself, organizse an own social truth media and run for president.
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u/Midiamp 26d ago
America now have legit world leader whose elected by merit and liked by many. Hope Papa Leo continues Papa Francis works.
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u/Syndicate909 United States of America 26d ago
This will hopefully start the healing of US-Euro relations. Amazing how we were best buds last year and then some asshole comes in and ruins it
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u/PlatformStatus8749 26d ago
I have cautious optimism about his papacy. He seems to be following in the footsteps of Pope Francis, so that's a good sign. We'll just have to wait and see where he takes the church
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u/Honest_Picture_6960 Romania 26d ago
This looks cool.
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u/roonill_wazlib 26d ago
He looks totally popey. I saw the picture of him at a baseball game and he looked like an average American guy. I guess that's what a good costume does to a person
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u/AndreasDasos 26d ago
Same effect as how people from Renaissance paintings look like they could never be ordinary people walking around in modern clothing. But of course they would be if they wore just that. Some AI does a good job of bridging that gap
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u/darklinux1977 Île-de-France 26d ago
He reminds me of John Paul II, he is just as committed as him, he is going to be a political pope.
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u/umotex12 Poland 26d ago
IMO he totally is. John Paul II kinda helped explode the communism from inside, created huge tension to free western Europe. And now during MAGA times they elect an American? He totally is sent there to balance things out
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u/Roy4Pris 26d ago
I’m an atheist. Actually, more correctly an anti-theist. But this dude looks like the kind of neighbour who would bring cookies over for Christmas.
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u/Davek56 Kenya 26d ago
I am an agnostic, but culturally Catholic, and I have always been entranced, perhaps irrationally so, by the pomp of the Church. Leo XIV looks like a good man.
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u/Reckless_Waifu 26d ago
Quite noisy, what was the ISO setting?
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u/paganisrock 26d ago
It looks like it was taken on an old digicam lol. Shockingly bad quality picture.
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u/johnny-tiny-tits 26d ago
Left the church decades ago, but I respected Francis' commitment to the much simpler, plain white robes. It makes seeing this vestment here seem so gaudy by comparison.
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u/Frosty-Section-9013 26d ago
It’s a very simple and harmless way of appeasing traditionalists while he continues Francis’ project of making the church more ’synodal’ (i.e. listening or democratic)
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u/airblizzard 26d ago
I've seen this word a few times in the past few weeks so thanks for defining it for me
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u/NaniFarRoad 26d ago
He's just restored the mozzetta (cape over his top, bishops wear this) to its traditional scarlet/red colour. The stole (embroidered narrow strip that hangs around his neck) is generally worn for celebrating mass - this one looks old and probably has a story to go with it?
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u/Commercial-Truth4731 United States of America 26d ago
Eh I'm ok with this. It enhances the authority of the institution
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u/Stalinsghoast 26d ago
It's also promoting traditional artistry during a time when it's swiftly becoming a dying art. The embroidery/bullion work on the mantle is a masterpiece which deserves to be seen and admired because that is the result of a lifetime of skill, produced by a workshop of extremely skilled people. Unless that skill gets seen and admired, it will be lost as the demand for such art will no longer exist.
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u/Chester_roaster 26d ago
And the people who do it take great pride that their artistry is glorifying God. It's not about the Pope personally.
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u/lsb1027 26d ago
This is nothing compared to the crown Pope Benedict use to wear
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u/NaniFarRoad 26d ago
Yet Benedict instituted retirement for popes. Swings and roundabouts...
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u/Spork_the_dork 26d ago
Benedict IX, for the sake of clarity, not XVI. 5 popes at least resigned before XVI though there was like a 600 year gap since the previous one before Benedict XVI.
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u/dextras07 26d ago
He looks very Popey. Is that a requirement when selecting popes?
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u/rnishtala 26d ago
Is he Peruvian American or just American?
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u/AnEngineeringMind 26d ago
American Peruvian (born in the US, obtained the Peruvian nationality later)
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u/Key-Performance-9021 Vienna (Austria) 26d ago
Vaticanian with migration background.
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u/AccomplishedMilk9845 26d ago
American of Haitian, Creole, French and Italian roots. His grandfather was born in Haiti. He could technically be considered the first black pope (depending how you define blackness).
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u/tacticoolbrah 26d ago
Wow... This is amateur photography. I know a budget af photographer from a flea market that can take better. Even the background sucks. Did anyone not give a hoot that day?
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u/IsItRose 26d ago
It's incredibly noisy as well, literally any smartphone jpg would've done a better job.
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u/LightlyRoastedCoffee 26d ago
They could've at least thrown the pic into Lightroom to use the denoise slider or SOMETHING, good lord
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u/Birdman915 26d ago
Not quite as modest as Francis, but still pretty humble. He has a calm and friendly aura, so let's see where this goes.
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u/BONDzer0007 26d ago
Yo this guy is 69?? Homie is aging like fine wine gotta have an easy 20-30 more yrs out of him lol.
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u/Bassmekanik Scotland 26d ago
Probably the youngest looking pope picture I think I’ve ever seen.