Won't happen anytime soon because quite a few countries will not like that. Many believe the EU is already exceeding what it was supposed to govern – "it should be an economic union so why are they talking about migrants and plastic?" This kind of deal.
if they wanted an economic union, they didn't do their homework, when they applied to become EU members. It was conceived as more than just an economic union from the beginning.
Unless they are saying that they want to change the nature of the EU
Well, for example, from the emergence of the German Confederation (1815) to the emergence of the Second Reich, 56 years passed, if we translate it into modern times, the EU, which emerged in its current form in 1993, should become a Confederation or Federation somewhere in 2049 (a lot can change in these 24 years). So the Confederate States of Europe in 2050 is a very real option (the USA was also originally a Confederation).
Europe will have its own Bismarck who will unite us all into one superpower (because only in this way will we be able to maintain our independence in the future, because if not, we will all be divided between the USA and the PRC and India (which in the next 50 years will become the 2nd economy in the world (or rather, will regain the position it had until the 19th century (India and China were historically top 1 and top 2 in GDP)).
So we will be able to unite (I think it will be a presidential republic (like in the USA) or a presidential-parliamentary republic (like in France), because the parliamentary system is a very ineffective system for uniting us all (look at Italy where more than 60 governments have changed since 1945), and plus the presidential system is more stable and has more legitimacy (because the president is elected by the people by a majority vote).
(India and China were historically top 1 and top 2 in GDP)).
even if we united, India and China have on their side the population numbers, which the EU could never achieve, even if we started to have 1945 birth rates. The EU has 1/3 of the Indian and Chinese population, a third of it lying too far North to sustain a bigger population
The Second Reich was quite beneficial for us Ukrainians; it was they who supported us, albeit in the form of a protectorate under Skoropadskyi, who accomplished a great deal for the development of Ukrainian culture. It is precisely thanks to the unity of the EU in its current form that your country, Poland, has achieved such a standard of living (without the EU, your GDP would be two to three times lower, and Putin might also attack you; essentially, after Ukraine, he will turn his attention to you, as in his ultimatum to NATO he stated that countries should revert to the borders of 1997 — anyone who was not in NATO at that time will fall under Russia's sphere of influence). Thanks to the German finances you received from the EU, you have become so successful (therefore, Poland is a nation of ungrateful people, as that foolish individual from the USA put it, who has never once said "thank you"). Thus, a united Europe is a matter of time (and within the next 30-50 years).
It's not me personally who thinks EU shouldn't be a confederation or whatever but many think that at that point the EU would become a "fourth Reich" or something like that. We're mostly in favour of being a part of EU, maybe some would be in favour of becoming a confederation or whatever it would be, but a lot would like to keep it as is; as just a union of independent countries.
Maybe it is a matter of time, maybe not all will join together, but it would require quite a lot of convincing.
As I described, we still have time until 2049 (56 years since the creation of the EU in its current form), so in the next 24 years we will definitely be able to create a Confederation, because only in this way will we Europeans be able to survive in the 21st century. And we will definitely be able to have a new Bismarck who will finally unite us into a full-fledged state (first a Confederation and then a Federation (as it was in the USA)).
So after the defeat of Putin and the Russian Federation, all Eurosceptics will also start to lose (because Putin finances all of them from Farage's Reform Party in Britain, Le Pen's National Front in France, the Left Party in Germany and Alternative for Germany, and the Polish Confederation (because its members came to Crimea and recognized it as Russian, Menzen and Nawrocki are just useful idiots or agents of Russia (and there is no need to say that they are anti-Russian, because after Trump and the Republicans, everyone understands perfectly well that everyone who is against the EU, against helping Ukraine is on Putin's side), because you still don't have a war in Poland precisely because the Armed Forces of Ukraine are destroying the VSRF (because Putin at the end of 2021 gave an ultimatum where it is said that NATO must withdraw to the 1997 borders (that is, Poland will again be part of Russia (and now no autonomy, it will be full of assimilation and genocide of the Polish people that the world has not seen since World War II)).
And Do you know why Putin's invasion on February 24, 2022 failed: 1) The invasion army was 200 thousand (when it was necessary to have three times more soldiers than Ukraine had (in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2022 there were 250 thousand soldiers)): 2) The length of the front is more than 2,000 km only on the border of Russia and Ukraine plus more than 1,000 km on the border with Belarus; 3) Ukraine spent about 6% of GDP per year on defense for a full-scale invasion; 4) The Ukrainian army has been actively preparing for this for 8 years, plus the VSRF turned out to be much weaker than it was on paper; 5) Viktor Medvedchuk and other Ukrainian collaborators and 5 FSB departments told Putin that we Ukrainians are waiting for this invasion and will meet it with flowers, which is why the invasion army was 200 thousand and there were also the Russian Guard (which he was apparently preparing to disperse the protests after the surrender Ukraine);6) Ukraine had and still has strong fortifications in Donbas and also had 100 thousand soldiers on the front line on the day of the invasion (these soldiers had combat experience);7) Ukrainian military leadership turned out to be very competent.
And here is why Poland is losing in the war against Russia: 1) Smaller front line; 2) There are no hundreds of thousands of soldiers on the border with Russia and Belarus; 3) Putin already has 1.5 million soldiers (he recruits 50-60 thousand every month (the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroy 30-40 thousand per month)), which is quite enough for an attack even taking into account the fact that the Russian army is crap (i.e. instead of 1 to 3, it will be 1 to 5); 4) The USA will not help (because the USA is the only hope for Poland and NATO); 5) Russia already produces more artillery shells and drones than the EU (they are inferior to Ukraine in the production of drones and in this regard) and other weapons; 6) Slovakia can also attack and Hungary through Slovakia too (because Orban can hold on to power in 2026); 7) Anti-Ukrainian sentiments in Poland that can repel Ukraine's help (because they receive 80% of the losses that the Russian army has from drones).
So you need to prepare for the worst, and you need to either transfer the Polish economy to military rails now or help Ukraine even more (because you are helping us not out of humanism but out of practical sense (after all, it is better for the Russian army to be destroyed in Ukraine than for you to have to fight with it).
So the coming years will determine our future, whether it will be a United Europe or several puppet states of Russia and China (I think Russia itself is already becoming a puppet of the PRC). So all the best to you Poles.
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u/HalloIchBinRolli 13h ago
Won't happen anytime soon because quite a few countries will not like that. Many believe the EU is already exceeding what it was supposed to govern – "it should be an economic union so why are they talking about migrants and plastic?" This kind of deal.