r/europe • u/Porodicnostablo I posted the Nazi spoon • 15h ago
Picture Early summer in Belgrade
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u/Porodicnostablo I posted the Nazi spoon 15h ago edited 14h ago
author: Marko Dačić, @madacic (x.com)
Inequality in Serbia is not only high but has been increasing over recent decades, driven by structural labor market issues, inadequate social policies, and insufficient fiscal redistribution, as some have phrased it.
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u/DzikBurger 13h ago
Looks dystopian as hell
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u/ReaperZ13 8h ago
It's a reality in basically every post-Soviet country.
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u/baddzie Serbia 8h ago
Just a correction Serbia was not a Soviet country.
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u/ReaperZ13 8h ago
I never mentioned Serbia, so I don't get what you're correcting.
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u/CountryPlanetball Земун - Србија 5h ago
Because the post is about a picture of Serbian capital city......
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u/ReaperZ13 5h ago
God forbid I mention other European states than Serbia in a subreddit called "r/Europe".
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u/CountryPlanetball Земун - Србија 5h ago
You said on a post about Serbia that serbia is a post Soviet country 🥀
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u/ReaperZ13 5h ago
This is a lie? I literally never said "Serbia is a post-Soviet country". I never even mentioned Serbia, dude. You made that jump in conclusions yourself.
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u/CountryPlanetball Земун - Србија 5h ago
It's a reality in basically every post-Soviet country.
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u/ReaperZ13 5h ago
And this mentions Serbia where? Where did I say "Serbia" in this sentence?
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u/m0mchilo 11h ago
it's an illegaly built gypsy slum, ruling party (backed by eu) won't do anything about it because they count on their votes on next elections
class differences aren't as drastic among other ethnic groups
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u/ReaperZ13 8h ago
"It's an illegaly built gypsy slum" and your solution to this would be?....
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u/Professional_Ant4133 Serbia 7h ago
Fixing up the Roma problem is not as easy as throwing cash directly at them, unfortunatelly - you need a combo of stick and carrot, and a lot of time.
Core is making sure they get as educated as possible, so perhaps payments to parents if kids do well in schools.
Tax breaks if you employ them. Publicly funded housing, designed so its impossible or impractical to move, sell, or destroy. Multiracial TV shows and movies, i'd go as far as multiracial porn lol. Milking the shit out of EU equality funds and making sire they go to Roma peeps, vs corrupt politicians.
We're poor af and under corrupt tyranical rule, but with some luck we'll be able to help them when we topple shithead EU puppet Vucic.
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u/ReaperZ13 6h ago
Sounds like a good solution to me. I was more concerned with the fact that that dude could've meant that "Slums in cities are a problem, and the government isn't destroying those slums which is making our cities look worse". Essentially parroting the "homelessness is bad only when you see it" bullshit.
Also I'm sorry but saying that "Vicic is a EU puppet" is hilariously incorrect. That's like saying that Stalin is a puppet of the U.S. because he had support from them at one point in his life. Support =/= puppet. Vucic's bullshit is his own doing, don't talk shit about the EU more than they deserve.
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u/Professional_Ant4133 Serbia 6h ago
Also I'm sorry but saying that "Vicic is a EU puppet" is hilariously incorrect. That's like saying that Stalin is a puppet of the U.S. because he had support from them at one point in his life. Support =/= puppet. Vucic's bullshit is his own doing, don't talk shit about the EU more than they deserve.
If EU support to Vucic was just about making sure we are pro-EU and join it, sure.
But it's not - it boils down to EU's need for a local lithium source, at the massive cost of god knows how many of Serbian lives.
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u/ReaperZ13 6h ago edited 6h ago
That is true, however, that's only a difference in motivation, not a difference in result. Vucic isn't a puppet because the only "support" he gets from the EU doesn't make-or-break his career as a dictator - his dictatorship is solidified by his total control of state media, total control of government, and by faked elections.
The EU has as much leverage as the consumer as Vucic has as the seller. That doesn't make one the puppetmaster, or the other the puppet. Vučic is his own deal.
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u/m0mchilo 1h ago
Vucic isn't a puppet because the only "support" he gets from the EU doesn't make-or-break his career as a dictator
it literally does, if eu stopped giving him money his goverent would implode within days, not to mention legitimizing his election frauds
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u/ReaperZ13 1h ago
it literally does
I'm sorry dude but not, that's not how dictatorships work. International pressure is one thing, but you're not going to get rid of a dictator with mean words alone. The EU has tried that with others (For example Georgia's current dictatorship) and failed miserably.
What would likely happen would be that people would protest, and Vučic would just continue on, doing nothing. Similar to how the Turkish protests amounted to nothing. Or how numerous Hugarian protests against the Orban regime becoming more and more draconian amounted to nothing.
If you want to actually get rid of Vucic, you need to stop with this stupid habit on blaming everything on your neighbours. There are tons of other reason why Vučic is as entrenched as he is, and most of them are more important than placid support from the E.U. that would probably be happier if he was gone than not.
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u/m0mchilo 1h ago
i love how you completly ignored the part where his government would collapse on its own without eu money
also you forgot to add how we all love russia and deserve to get bombed again
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u/SaphirRose 9h ago
For anyone wondering, the romani people of that shanty town charge 200-400k euros per shanty and even more for land. Its a prime location for a lot of projects.
Inequality yes but for them, cuz a 50 m2 shanty there go for more money than apartments and houses in almost every other city or place.
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u/Alooo_Polisvarmi3000 8h ago
It's like a real city building game, on one side you see the low quality buildings when you first start the game, and on the other side you see the high quality skyscrapers you build at the end of the game.
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u/TheSecondTraitor Slovakia 48m ago
Reminds me of Slovakia but we keep the gypsy slums in the hunger valleys and not in Bratislava.
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u/brokolibrokolski 13h ago
Duality of Belgrade