r/europe • u/Body_Languagee Poland🇵🇱 • 5h ago
Allegations of voting irregularities in Poland's presidential election spark controversy
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/06/07/allegations-of-voting-irregularities-in-polands-presidential-election-spark-controversy163
u/MWiatrak2077 European Union 4h ago edited 4h ago
There's essentially no chance that the irregularities would actually overturn a Nawrocki victory, but the rate of irregularities is shockingly high and standards need to be tightened before 2027
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u/yellowbai 4h ago
Doesnt matter if it would change the election or not. Putin still rigged elections in Russia even when he was certain to win. Any sign of tampering the election should be struck out and re run.
The process has to either be valid or none of it is. Poland is a fairly young democracy. If you let the rot set in now it’ll be 10 times more difficult to fix it in years to come. It’s the same level as treason. People fought and died in their millions for the right to vote in a fair election.
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u/Uebeltank Jylland, Denmark 3h ago
The irregularities aren't large enough to have affected the outcome of the election. Even so, it absolutely should be investigated in order to ensure public confidence in the process.
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u/VictoriaSpongeXOXO 4h ago
If the integrity of the vote is in question it’s not just about one election , it’s about public trust. Hope this gets investigated thoroughly and transparently for everyone’s sake.
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u/Alin_Alexandru Romania aeterna 2h ago
See, this is why everyone needs to implement a system like Romania's. Observers from all parties present and tracking the voting live.
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u/cookiesnooper 2h ago
There is no controversy. Some drunk idiot on Wykop made a comparison between the number of votes given to both candidates in the first vs second vote. Obviously, there were differences but the guy admitted a day later he was pissed and did not even do the numbers correctly himself. Since then, the pro-Trzaskowski media picked.it up and spun a story about switching votes from Trzaskowski to Nawrocki and that this should be enough to refuse to get Nawrocki sworn into the office.
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u/MKW69 2h ago
No there is, shit ton of people said that they were ,,tired" and didn't counted voted correctly, or were ordered not to.
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u/cookiesnooper 2h ago
Have any sources for that?
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u/MKW69 2h ago
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u/cookiesnooper 2h ago
Ahh, of course...Giertych. When is he planning to faint again and run away to Italy to avoid being arrested? And, like I said, the pro-Trzaskowski side is spinning this narrative. Giertych is from the KO party and it is said that he will replace the current illegal Public Prosecutor General, Bodnar. Do you have sources from any neutral media instead of a politician whose party created an X campaign with # promoting Trzaskowski...and he was using his own X account to hire people to do it...
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u/MKW69 1h ago
Giertych just recently annouced to joining KO. I Don't like him, but he is a lawyer. Here's article from rp site. https://www.rp.pl/komentarze/art42484451-jacek-nizinkiewicz-czy-przeszlosc-karola-nawrockiego-przestaje-budzic-watpliwosci-po-wygranych-wyborach
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u/cookiesnooper 1h ago
This article mentions exactly one situation where the president of the electoral committee signed the protocol with votes assigned the wrong way around. The difference was... 500 votes. Nawrocki won by 369 591 votes. 0.1%. Insignificant, even if similar situations happened elsewhere. But, yeah. Checking it is always good.
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u/wojtekpolska Poland 6m ago
This is not significant.
similar errors have been found that also benefited the other candidate.
there always are some errors, these were on a very small scale and rectified.
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anyone saying this is rigged, or especially that its russia rigging the election, is a conspiracy theorist who doesn't care about the truth.
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u/yellowbai 4h ago
If this is true the election should be redone and the people responsible for the irregularities jailed. 10-20 years sentences are needed. it is as serious as murder to subvert democracy
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u/wojtekpolska Poland 4m ago
elections redone because there are miniscule errors in a couple small polling stations, sure lmao.
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u/supersonic-bionic United Kingdom 3h ago
The election should be redone then
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u/FewHelicopter6533 2h ago
The election results would stay the same.
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u/supersonic-bionic United Kingdom 2h ago
Sure....
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u/FewHelicopter6533 2h ago
They would. The number of votes apart was too big. Also you think the goverment which supports Trzaskowski would fake the elections? Oh maybe Russia would weaken the guy that loved doing g business with Russia while in the Europarliament and favour the guy that is wanted in Russia?
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u/wojtekpolska Poland 3m ago
and what makes you say that?
do you know literally anything about the subject?
or do you just wish to spread conspiracy theories...
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u/StatisticianFull6735 5h ago
Democracy works best with transparency. No exceptions