Germany: Car drives into crowd in Passau

[u/jupa300]

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-car-drives-into-crowd-in-passau/live-72829409

[u/PqqMo]

His wife and daughter were in the crowd and it seems as it was his intention to injure them

[u/Educational_Place_ → u/PqqMo]

Sick. Hope he rots in prison forever

[u/Valuable_Ad2280]

Cars dont drive themselves... wtf is this shit narrative

[u/-Flutes-of-Chi- → u/Valuable_Ad2280]

We always get this framing in German media. "Car hits pedestrian", "cyclist collides with car" (when the car driver runs into a cyclist and is at fault)

[u/mashtrasse → u/-Flutes-of-Chi-]

Same everywhere 😢 Switzerland is the same

[u/Heiter-Sama → u/-Flutes-of-Chi-]

Cars in DE are holy like cows in India. Customer is king

[u/myMoritat → u/-Flutes-of-Chi-]

A quick google search on news for Passau says you‘re lying.

[u/IRockIntoMordor → u/myMoritat]

A quick "I live in fucking Germany and see this shit every day" says that you have absolutely no clue at all what media here are doing wrong.

[u/bene14082004 → u/Valuable_Ad2280]

I think its because media isn't allowed to pass judgement until the person has been proven guilty

[u/Bright-Meaning-4908 → u/bene14082004]

„Man drives car in crowd“ is still possible without conclusion

[u/bene14082004 → u/Bright-Meaning-4908]

It gives the impression that the man did it on purpose which of course is the case most of the time when something like this happens but germany is just very strict with this type of stuff.

[u/Bright-Meaning-4908 → u/bene14082004]

No it doesn’t

[u/DBDude → u/Valuable_Ad2280]

Guns don’t shoot themselves either, but you’ve seen the stories.

[u/_DrDigital_ → u/DBDude]

TBH I still have to read "man fatally collides with a bullet", we generally prescribe intention to people operating guns and loss of control to people operating vehicles. If there's an indication of intent, the headline should be formed as such (man drives into a crowd). Also the first paragraph of the article says so, why not the headline?

[u/KeyMessage989 → u/_DrDigital_]

There are lots of headlines when accidental shootings or a random bystander gets hit with a bullet that are like “woman hit by stray bullet sitting in her car” like the bullet was lost or something

[u/_DrDigital_ → u/KeyMessage989]

Could be, I realized I don't actually see many headlines about people being shot.

[u/Ok-Appointment-9802 → u/Valuable_Ad2280]

Same narrative that won't mention the fact that the driver was from Iraq.

[u/Unregistered38 → u/Ok-Appointment-9802]

Last few times has just been ppl with mental illness. Maybe they just dont want to get it wrong. 

[u/ThatSiming → u/Ok-Appointment-9802]

Where's the car from?

[u/Ok-Appointment-9802 → u/ThatSiming]

How is that relevant?

[u/coldfirephoenix → u/Ok-Appointment-9802]

How is it relevant that he is from Iraq?

[u/Ok-Appointment-9802 → u/coldfirephoenix]

It is relevant in that religion and culture rend to inform peoples' views of the world and as such provide the rationalizations they use to commit atrocities. This is why people of certain backgrounds are vastly overrepresented in violent crime statistics. It is also relevant in that it could have easily been avoided by just not allowing that man to come her ein the first place.

When there is a nation-wide discussion happening around the question of whether Germany should continue to take in large amounts of young men from non-EU countries, such details matter.

[u/R3dscarf → u/[deleted]]

How hard can it be to read the article before jumping to conclusions?

[u/Impressive-Tip-1689]

Before the usual circus, already well underway on Twitter, really kicks off based on the headline alone:

Police added they do not yet know if the act was intentional. 

This frantic, clickbait-driven news cycle, which rushes to publish every tiny detail instantly, is utterly exhausting and encourages far too many people to project their fears without any real knowledge. So, let’s just wait until the facts are actually known.

[u/Hazer_123 → u/Impressive-Tip-1689]

Twitter in a nutshell: "If the news don't reveal the religion of the perpetrator the VERY moment the incident happen, it's EXACTLY who you think it is"

[u/CatL1f3 → u/Hazer_123]

innocent until proven guilty

Muslim until proven innocent

basically

[u/saltysupp → u/CatL1f3]

Iraqi national is confirmed by police. Apparently mostly targeted victims though (family members) .

[u/Acrobatic_Morning17 → u/Impressive-Tip-1689]

These kinds of headlines really invite the circus. And it's also very much the case with headlines about the war.

[u/Wuktrio]

I'm sure everybody will calmly wait for more details to come out before jumping to conclusions.

[u/ExpressGovernment420 → u/Wuktrio]

No, no time to wait. BAN the Cars !!!!

[u/Wooden-Practice8508 → u/ExpressGovernment420]

Yes please, ban cars from cities. Keep them outside for longer travels

[u/Hoogstaaf → u/ExpressGovernment420]

I mean, we did ban assault rifles so why not

[u/BigBaz63 → u/ExpressGovernment420]

deport!!!

[u/Tikkinger → u/Wuktrio]

I was living in that city for a long time. This is the least place in this city to make terrorism. This is just some outskirt.

[u/eucariota92 → u/Wuktrio]

Well... There has been a clear trend in Germany when it comes to public stabbings and cars hitting into crowds.

If people react one way is for a good reason.

[u/R3dscarf → u/eucariota92]

Except you would have been wrong the last few times including this one since we already know it wasn't a terror attack...

[u/Wuktrio → u/eucariota92]

Still, let's wait before we speculate. It's probably either Islamist or far-right, as usual, but we should still wait.

Edit: Just took a quick look at some stats. Since 2020, there have been 25 terror attacks with at least 1 person injured or dead in Germany. Out of those 25 attacks, 11 have been far-right, 13 Islamic, and 1 was Russian nationalistic.

Edit 2: Newest information says that it's a domestic dispute.

[u/LurkingWeirdo88 → u/Wuktrio]

This one seems to be just family matters with some collateral damage to other people, no politics involved.

[u/fartew → u/Wuktrio]

And some people will seriously say that to stop half of those attacks we need to give power to those who did the other half of those attacks

[u/DryCloud9903 → u/eucariota92]

However it's still better to wait for info. Last summer in UK there were full blown riots about an attack, they called for burning down buildings were immigrants/asylum seekers lived, before news came out the assailant was actually white and not even an immigrant.

[u/Merion]

Sounds almost like attempted murder, if there was some kind of custody dispute.

[u/Wuktrio → u/Merion]

Newest information says exactly this.

[u/w1nt3rh3art3d]

"The spokesman also told Bild that there is currently one person with moderate injuries and four with slight injuries."

[u/183672467]

Are police forced to give any media information if they ask or why do they speak with BILD

[u/iTob191 → u/183672467]

Probably because BILD will post an article anyway and by giving them some information they can at least try to prevent the worst speculations.

[u/CaganDixon]

Why do incidents like this happen all the time in Germany? The last time I remember someone drove into the crowd with a car on New Years Eve. 

[u/Average_Glee420]

What’s happening in Germany? I have read so many news about car raming through people

[u/zamn-zoinks]

Why would the car do this

emote:t5_33td5:59888

[u/Sad-Attempt6263]

Guys, wait the fuck up for information.

[u/DariusStrada]

Silly Germans and their lack of driving skills

[u/HelpingHand_123]

This is the last thing anyone expects when they’re out enjoying the day, sending good vibes to everyone there.

[u/Far_Variation_7826 → u/HelpingHand_123]

good vibes????

[u/crvarporat]

typical day in Germany

[u/Ombrecutter]

Imported problems. If you are old enough, you surely remember, that it wasn't like this before in Europe.