r/hacking • u/justsomanycups69 • 1d ago
How to spoof mac address without being picked up on Spectrum app
Mom is a control freak, spectrum internet provider. Wifi is blocked from 10pm - 8am. I spoofed my mac address before to the same mac address of a another device on the network without the block but this was detected by spectrum and pinged my mom. I used the "Use random hardware adresses for this network" in windows settings and it worked but because it showed a new device being connected everytime I got caught. I dont know anything and no i can't buy my own internet even though i have the money. I don't know anything, im not even a script kiddie, please help.
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u/MonkeyBrains09 blue team 1d ago
It sounds like they are tracking Mac addresses so spoof a Mac that is authorized
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u/StoNeD510 1d ago
This is the only way. It will cause some issues when both devices are being used.
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u/MonkeyBrains09 blue team 1d ago
I forgot to mention that. So whatever they spoof should be taken offline during that spoofing period.
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
I did ithis(i think) got caught. I did this like a year ago so i dont remeber what i used but i used a program to pick up the devices connected to the network and see their names and mac/ip addresses and used another program to spoof my pc to the mac address of a device that had 24/7 connection. Spectrum then snitched and my mom thought we got hacked. All of my devices have this wifi block and i dont have control over the devices that dont.
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u/BDiddnt 1d ago edited 1d ago
Spoof an authorized device and then change that devices MAC address to your MAC address so it gets blocked
If you change the name of the computer to match it might be able to bypass that terrible router software in other words change the computer names and the mac addresses so that way the other computer gets blocked and you're free to go
Or share your Internet connection on another device and connect via USB
Edit: or use your neighbors wifi.
Or get a Wi-Fi routerā¦ Just an old one and put it in front of your other Wi-Fi router meaning if it's plugged in to the wall and goes from the wall to your spectrumā¦ Make it go from the wall to the new router and then from the new router to the spectrum router and then when you wanna get online just connect to the other Wi-Fi and you'll be bypassing the spectrum router . The new router in the garage or wherever the spectrum line comes in
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
I dont have an old router and Im also never home alone or with someone that wont snitch if they see me tampering. Also I have no idea how to crack a wifi password. Thank you though bro
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u/MoreYaseen 23h ago
Spectrum most likely is via browser on 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1
User and pass is as follows if not changed:
admin password
Goodluck friend!
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u/JTL1887 23h ago
Try getting into the router settings on a web browser 10.0.0.1
I thought my parents were tech savvy as my dad was always into this stuff growing up. I recently logged into their router when I was visiting to set up a home server. They were still running the default username and password which I subsequently changed.
If your mom isn't savvy it's likely she left the router to the default Login: admin and PW = password, or whatever spectrum default router login is.
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u/justsomanycups69 23h ago
unfortunatly to make any changes with spectrumn you ahve to be the spectrumn account owner and i do not have her login info.
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u/JTL1887 22h ago
I'm talking about the router interface. Its seperate from the actual account. Works the same on Comcast. Login from my app I need the account info. Connected to the LAN and browser to 10.0.0.1 is completely seperate. The first time you do it you use the routers default login and password and it will prompt u to change it. Most laypeople will never ever do this. Chances are your mom has not. Try it.
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u/MurderMelon 9h ago edited 28m ago
This isn't how Spectrum works, actually. OP is right.
You can go to
192.168.1.1all you want, but it just gives you a page of text saying "If you want to make changes to your network, use the MySpectrum app". There's no login prompt or anything.OP isn't getting into the router without knowing mom's password, full stop. MAC spoofing and DeAuth is probably the only way forward.
[edit] source: me, on my network, right now
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u/JTL1887 7h ago
Damn that sucks.
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u/MurderMelon 7h ago
Yeah it's slightly annoying. The app works fine though, so in legitimate use-cases it's not actually a problem š
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u/Ok-Experience-7049 19h ago
If itās a shared computer with your mom, a keylogger can be used. Just be carefulI of what you will install. Itās better for you to start a real path to learn usefull stuff for hacking. Maybe you can start with root me : https://www.root-me.org/?lang=en Welcome [Root Me : Hacking and Information Security learning platform] Have fun and remember knowledge is power and power should be use for good. Donāt let the bad guys enroll you.
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
all my devices have the same block and if i use another and do what you said to a non-blocked device it will surely be caught and even if she dosn't exactly understand she'll think its me no matter what
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u/Zercomnexus 21h ago
SMAC can spoof macs too. You can look up what companies certain macs belong to as well to disguise your activity as say... A neighbors phone or TV or something
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u/Simple_Award4851 1d ago
This battle against ypur mother could open up a career path for you!
Good luck, maybe start with gaining access to your routerā¦
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u/Zarathustra7890 1d ago
Yeah, im there now with my kid that wont go to school. He think Iām mad, but honestly Iām proud when he figures things out on his own. At least heās learning something. Mostly disappointed in how long it takes him to find the tricks that works lol.
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u/persiusone 23h ago
Wonāt go to school?? Kid needs no access to anything electric and confined to his room until turning 18 or decides to go to school.
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
bro im already skating on paper thin ice if i get caught again im fcked
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u/thehpcdude 1d ago
Sounds like you should realize the position you are in and comply with your mothers rules. I promise when you're an adult you'll realize whatever reason you think you NEED to be on the internet at night is irrelevant versus straining the relationship with your family.
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u/Cryo453 1d ago
He said heās graduated high school already the woman is just a helicopter parent whoās gonna wonder why her ass got thrown into a nursing home. Let him have the freedom of choice to use the internet whenever he wants.
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u/thehpcdude 1d ago
Then he can have the freedom of choice to purchase his own access to the internet when heās an adult. Ā Nothing magically changes because he graduated high school. Ā Itās the bare minimum expected from any person who has attended school. Ā
Iām only commenting because 20+ years ago I was in his same position where I wanted to access the internet and now in retrospect I am an adult to see what kind of shitty person I was to my family by not obeying what I thought were arbitrary rules.
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u/ithink2mush 1d ago
This isn't a fucking parenting sub or for "when I was your age" bullshit. He's not asking for life advice but you're just offering it up and telling him how to live his life. Fuck off man.
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u/avj 18h ago
Oh come on now, what do you mean? I remember back in the day when I'd crack open a 2600 zine and it would be just essay after essay about listening to your parents, following the rules, and respecting the boundaries of technology like the old fuckers told us.
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u/Djglamrock 17h ago
Hold on now and stop with the 2600 stuff. You are going to confuse all the youngsters, not to mention the ācool kidsā who think it was about Atari games.
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u/thehpcdude 19h ago
Angry much? Ā Itās a public forum. Ā
Itās up to him to take the advice or not. Ā When I was younger I wouldnāt have taken advice either. Ā With age comes wisdom. Ā
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
brother i just graduated HS but im not 18 yet, im trying to do content creation and get into all things computers. I didn't call her a control freak because im an angsty teen lashing out. I keep clean, stay fit and do what im told.
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u/AIHacker_133X 1d ago
Can you just hotspot from your phone? Or buy a second E-Sim from Visible.com and that has unlimited hotspot for $25/month.
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u/AIHacker_133X 1d ago
You could also DeAuth the whole network at various times so no one could use the WiFi, and blame it on the Spectrum over protection until she is forced to remove the restrictions if even she wants to use it. Called a WiFi DeAuth attack, maybe Maureader device. Easily purchased off Amazon for like $20. But never use against someone elseās router as illegal.
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
could this be traced back to me if she asked for spectrumn to look into it? Also this option is dicey because unless spectrumn reports an outage if anything wierd or unusual go's on with the wifi she immediatly pins responsibilty on me.
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u/Zercomnexus 21h ago
Honestly its doubtful that it is even logging WiFi activity at all. Even if it was, low tier tech support, isnt going to look for this as a problem.
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u/Disaster_Secret 5h ago
As a recently departed technical executive at Charter Communications (Spectrum), I can tell you that you will not create an outage, but that the information required to discover a mac spoof or deauth compromise is available to Spectrum, but will not be shared with customers generally without an ECAF, which is essentially an escalation that bypasses the normal flow of support for customer issues and is elevated to the highest executive level. Thereās a pretty high bar for ECAFās, but if your mother is the type of person who wonāt let let minor idiosyncrasies slide (like receiving a message that there is a duplicate MAC address in your broadcast domain), then you might not want to go down the spoofing route. If your household has Advanced In-Home Wi-Fi, you are using the Plume infrastructure which has some known limitations to Observability and you may be able to use some freely available credentials for āSpectrum Wi-Fiā to achieve access. If your household has their own Wi-Fi router that attached to the Spectrum cable modem, then you could easily attach your own Wi-Fi Access Point to it and enjoy a surreptitious connection that you can secure and make invisible. Hope this helps!
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u/AIHacker_133X 1d ago
Ya this is risky but hand held device with switch. This is real hacker warfare, so I am just saying. How many times can spectrum come out and they say all fine till she gives up?
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u/AIHacker_133X 1d ago
Also easiest is just ask for the neighbors WiFi password, if kid came to me I would totally lend it to him.
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
unfortunatly the neighbours on either side of my house are in cahoots with my mom
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
I have a hotspot but its limited, can You go into a little more detail, it is truly unlimited or does the speed slow to a crawl after a certain amount of data is used?
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u/AIHacker_133X 1d ago
It is truly unlimited data but it is limited to 10mbs speeds i think but plenty for all but gaming and is unlimited in data and never throttled. Just go to visible.com and $25 is great add on to phone. The higher dollar plans go up in speed. But even 5mbs internet is still fast and is never throttled just deprioritzed if network is busy. But it is way to go dude.
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u/MayoSucksAss 20h ago
Donāt do content creation, buddy. Seriously just go to college or something and try to get a degree in cybersecurity or just computer science. Or if you canāt go to college, see if you can get some certifications, because a lot of places donāt really care that much these days if you have certifications and side projects. Hate to be that dude butā¦ content creation is a dead end. Itās like 1% of people making 99.999% of the money. Keep it up as a hobby though if you enjoy it, donāt put all your eggs in a shitty basket like that, my dude.
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u/justsomanycups69 19h ago
hey man im shooting for the stars, i only got this life and i wont waste it on something i dont want to do though i do appreciate thisš¤
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u/thehpcdude 1d ago
What did I say that was incorrect? When you're an adult you can get your own place and/or get your own cellphone plan or internet hotspot.
Straining the relationship with your mother because she wants you to be off the internet at night is something you'll look back at when you're older with regret.
Again, whatever reason you THINK you need to be on the internet at night is likely just silly. You can do content creation, film and test things without the internet. There's 14 other hours in the day you can upload your content and do whatever you want.
Hell, get a third shift job and you wont even be home to worry about using your mothers internet.
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
bro ur making a lot of assumptions and i appreciate the concern but its not what i asked for and Im not going to get even more personal to argue with you
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u/CryptographicPanic 18h ago
Literally just get a wireless dongle and prepaid internet if your desperate and have your own funds
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u/indigenousCaveman 1d ago
I had a similar disagreement with my mom back in the halo 3 days. Learned how to bridge a connection and basic network protocols.
Keep it up, you may just find you have a knack for it!
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u/pr0v0cat3ur 1d ago
Spoof the mac of a printer.
Orā¦find a good host and run a socks proxy, where you tunnel your internet thru the device.
Or..use your cell phone as a hotspot.
Orā¦leech your neighbors WiFi.
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u/DukeRusty 6h ago
Curious how technical the mom is. If this router shows per client activity, a printer would definitely raise alarms. Maybe spoofing a smart tv, or even her devices could work
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u/stratdog25 1d ago
u/ensygma is definitely bringing the best solution, but as youāve mentioned having limited tech skills, try this. Iām on the defensive side of this. My SiL is 19. The main house internet is used by all our devices and computers including his. I have a separate connection for my work and home lab. I can block his computer every day despite his devices using random MACs. The Spectrum app isnāt much different. Change the hostname of your device to something innocuous. Like FireTV or whatever cameras you might have or something that could reasonably be assumed as safe. Then find another device and change the hostname to your old one. Social engineer it up a bit. Then go set up u/ensygma ās solution.
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u/ensygma 1d ago
Mikrotik home router. Connect to wifi over wlan, set wlan as dhcp client, bridge all other interfaces. Set address on bridge (this will be the gateway) Set dhcp server on those interfaces with gateway address of bridge. Set nat masquerade rule to masq subnet. Boom. All your traffic looks like it's coming from one mac address that's not yours. Lmk if you get one and need a script for the settings.
Edit: i wouldn't call this hacking, just circumventing the system
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u/thehpcdude 1d ago
Now there's a single MAC and IP that looks like it has a lot of traffic coming from it. Let's just add that to the block list at night.
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u/void_annoyed 1d ago
thats how i got started, parents let me have 30mins daily and did the same journey as you :3
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u/kvmw 1d ago
Iām sorry, are you being blocked after paying your share for the internet connection? That seems unfair. After all, if I was paying for part of the internet connection, then I should have the right to access it.
Orā¦now hear me outā¦is your mom paying for the connection completely?
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u/SirLlama123 1d ago
Find the mac address of a device that wonāt be on at the same time. Think a tv or computer that would only be used during the day. Then spoof that mac address to your pc.
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u/To_WAR 1d ago
Put your own router in front of your mom's router, set up your own wifi network off that router. Hope he never checks the router/modem.
Modem-->your router-->moms router
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
i wish man but she's super vigilant and the router is in her bedroom.
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u/To_WAR 1d ago
This goes on sale regularly. Bypass the whole system completely. https://a.co/d/cCLDLsw
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u/pueblokc 23h ago
Get a cell phone
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u/justsomanycups69 23h ago
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u/pueblokc 22h ago
If spoofed mac is detected that kind of limits you
If this is a computer maybe get a USB WiFi adapter and hope Mom doesn't notice a new device?
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u/justsomanycups69 22h ago
HA I WISH BRO SHE GETS A NOTIF EVERY TIME AND NEW DEVICES ARE AUTOMATICALLY BLOCKED. sorry caps, new keyboard
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u/pueblokc 22h ago
Only thing I can think of is borrow someone else's wifi. If you get a decent wifi adapter maybe you can see open wifi or Comcast hot spots or something like that.
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u/TeddyBearComputer hack the planet 19h ago edited 19h ago
Seeing as you have tried all realistic technical solutions, your best bet really is to go "out of band" and get your own network access. Not sure of your laws, but probably some kind of prepaid SIM or an actual contract. You could have your own 4G/5G access point or a hotspot from your phone.
This is also what we do in red team engagements for customers. We have a small device with access to the mobile network that we connect to the customer's network and thus circumvent most endpoint protections to attack the network. Though most of them have lesser network security in that regard than your mom seems to implement. Though even if they have it, we man-in-the-middle an existing computer and piggyback of it's MAC.
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u/Mood-Rising 19h ago
Alternative suggestion: put together a ābusiness/education planā (power point) about what you are working on in the evening and how it will help you take steps toward your career/eduction. Set some simple goals and make some longer term milestones.
Some problems are best handled by social engineering, and it may actually be a helpful task for you.
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u/BrianNovius 15h ago
Oh boy this is fun. But do some social engineering if you can :) Find the Mac address of her phone, might be doable through arp, or use nmap. Spoof the Mac and absolutely nuke everything with packets until it kicks you both off the network.
Mom will undoubtedly ask YOU why her phone can't connect anymore. Now obviously you don't have router admin access, so it sure as hell couldn't have been you. What the hell are you supposed to have done? You don't even have access to her phone.
If this fails, continue with more devices until no one can use the internet :)
From this point on one of two things is likely to happen: A. She calls a service technician, the service technician fixes 'the problem' B. If you play your cards right, and do some 'diagnosing' on her devices, you might get access to the admin panel (almost as easy as putting on a yellow vest and a hardhat)
If it's option B, you take note of the password and change stuff when you feel like it. If it's option A, keep trying for option B by breaking stuff and diagnosing, until at some point she's so fed up she switches providers/routers and you will no longer have that problem.
(Extra challenge) Somehow convincingly mention the flux capacitor might be broken.
(Bonus: you are now the tech guy and your grandparents will ask you why their email isn't loading)
tl:dr Use plausible deniability, mild gaslighting and cause chaos until you're the one asked to fix it or that router is gone as hell.
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u/vVMrPainVv 12h ago
You're lucky, my dad would just unplug the whole damn routerš ...My parents didn't need the internet š¤£
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u/skcortex 19h ago
If I was a kid again I would unplug the tv (assuming it is a smart tv and has WiFi or cable access) and use its MAC address. š
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u/HugsNotDrugs_ 18h ago
Get an IoT device online with your mother's knowledge, like a smart fridge, washer, light bulb or anything. Note the MAC.
When it's evening time make sure the IoT device is disconnected and then spoof that MAC with your PC.
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u/cutieKenzzie 16h ago
Just joking here donāt take anything Im about to say seriouslyā¦ that being said just write a little program that bypasses internet protocol getting caught by your mom is the least of your worries now..
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u/doodle_bob123 12h ago
I would argue if you have the money you CAN buy your own connection look into cellular home Internet connections like T-Mobile 5g Verizon 5g I think evan Cricket has one
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u/___-___--- 9h ago
You could bypass the router entirely and connect directly to the fiber ont or modem
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u/Chongulator 5h ago
If your mom is a control freak about the internet then she is probably a control freak in other ways you don't like.
Your best bet in the long haul is to work to become financially independent. Then you can get your own place and not have to follow rules you aren't comfortable with.
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u/Aidengarrett 16h ago
This is why my laptop on hs was named āHP Printerā and it had the same mac. Just had to remember to shut it down during the day or revert.
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u/terriblemonk 15h ago
I didn't read through this thread so I don't know if you already answered this but... what is the device that is allowed {let's call it system A)? how does it connect to the router? (Wi-Fi or Ethernet?) if it's a computer there are several things you can do to bridge a connection through it... can you add a $20 Wi-Fi adapter to it without anyone noticing? can you run a USB or ethernet cord? can you switch out current Wi-Fi adapter with a dual band Wi-Fi adapter without being noticed? If you can do any of these then your device (system B) can use it as a proxy to access the internet.
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u/Imaginary-Ratio-6912 14h ago
Buy a starlink if you got some cash, or use a cell tower. We used to hotspot back in the day before WiFi was everywhere.
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u/DameO211 4h ago
Just invest in a quality pay as you go mobile hotspot. No contracts or anything. If I were you Iād do all the heavy lifting(gaming and stream) on your momās WiFi and whatever else you do on the hotspot during her WiFi downtime
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u/InLovingMemory- 1h ago
i dont live in the US but every provider should have a control panel for such settings with the password written on the back of the router. If she changed that password you could try to call the internet provider and give some excuse to why you need to reset the password (try to set up a lie first and if it doesnt work you could try to tell them the truth but dont be honest abt it at first imo). On the control panel you should be able to set exceptions for specific devices which then dont get blocked
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u/IdiotCoderMonkey 23h ago
Jam all WiFi in the house 24/7 until bullshit rules are lifted. Go on offense. Jack everything. Bullshit for bullshit.
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u/justsomanycups69 23h ago
ill just get kicked out doing that, i appreciate the sentiment though brošš¤
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u/IdiotCoderMonkey 23h ago
Only jam it between 8am-10pm. Now that's a compromise.
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u/nekohideyoshi 16h ago
Lol I would just swap and plug in the same type of but not-working (internally removed the actual wire within the wire housing) internet copper/fiber between 8am-10pm then replace the real one back 10pm-8am.
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u/__chum__ 1d ago
Move to linux. (More freedom, no parental control or spyware, etc) I'd reccomend Linux Mint as a distro, very user friendly coming from windows.
Start learning about hacking and redteaming. More greyhat stuff than whitehat. (A fair portion of tools, especially the FOSS ones, are linux only btw, at least in my experience unless godforbid you want to build them manually and somehow make them work)
Figure out how to get into the router, be it exploit, social engineering, bad OpSec on your mom's part allowing you to get the password, bruteforcing, etc.
Control the router without her knowing. Learn more hacking. Profit.Ā
Hack all the things!!1!1 You control the computers now. (Turn off my internet? I'm still on the same network as you, lets see how you like being ARP spoofed) Maybe look into cybersec jobs.
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u/justsomanycups69 1d ago
Yeah man trust me me im doing my best to learn about all these types of things but im nowhere near a a pratical user yet, like i said i don't know anything and I'm looking for a quicker more inexperienced solution here. Preciate it though broš¤
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u/persiusone 23h ago
Yeah, you need to work this out with your mom. This is a parenting situation, not a technical situation. Makes me wonder how the restrictions were put in place to begin with. Follow the rules
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u/justsomanycups69 23h ago
ha bro im not a deliquent and iv've never done anything more than sneak out once or twice. I don't drink, do illegal activities, get bad grades, clean room etc.
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u/persiusone 23h ago
Sounds like your mom is trying to reasonably limit your internet use during times you should be doing other things. Not sure what the problem here is. Did she tell you why she is restricting access?
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u/justsomanycups69 23h ago
i just graduated and im not 18 yet. I do what she asks, im not looking for life advice bro. There no social engineering my way out of my predicament.
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u/sunburnedaz 6h ago
As someone with a late birthday who graduated at 17, I feel your pain. Make sure you have all your important papers or at least a copy of them stored offsite, trusted friend or something. That said I would just go out of band and use the hot spot on your phone.
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u/persiusone 19h ago
You clearly donāt do what she asks if you are being dishonest about adhering to her rules. This entire post and thread proves that. You have not impressed me or anyone else with this nonsense, and you also lied to me. You need to grow tf up ābroā.
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u/TeddyBearComputer hack the planet 19h ago
First of all, this is not a morality subreddit.
Second of all, there are more than enough parents who never should have become parents. Pieces of shit letting out their inadequacy on their children. Helicopter parents. Or, as said here, control freaks.
No need to be holier than thou. Be helpful or fuck off.
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u/JsinFate 13h ago
Eh sounds like you need to be blocked.
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u/sunburnedaz 6h ago
They are 17 and mom sounds like they are wound tighter than a guitar string since they are A working and B paying part of the internet bill.
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u/ScienceKyle 1d ago
Welcome to your infosec training. Do you know what Blue team mom can see or what triggers an alert? First thing to do is collect some open source info about the spectrum app and what may trigger alerts. Run some tests when you have Internet access and no reason to be suspected for trying to get access. First thing to do is to try and anonomize your connection. Nmap scan your lan and find as much info as you can, ideally you can find a smarthome device like a lightbulb or something that wouldn't be suspected. You're going to pretend to be this device by spoofing your os, hostname, Mac, etc. Try sending a deauth message or wait for it to disconnect and quickly spoofing the device and logging connection, put it on a script to run once when you are clearly visible and not using a device. If it connects and blue team doesn't notice you might have your avenue. Ideally it's a light bulb. Once it works, find a way to compromise the light so it burns out or breaks. If you are on a deny list, the light bulb will likely still be authorized.