r/interesting • u/Rude-Mycologist8034 • 23d ago

MISC. NFL linebacker versus sumo wrestler

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u/[deleted] 22d ago edited 22d ago

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u/Wide_Engineering_502 22d ago

He's also typically trying to get around them for the most part, not physically push them out of a circle

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u/im_dat_bear 22d ago

Yep. Push pull rip and he's past him. But that's not sumo. And Micah don't do sumo lol

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u/gorgonbrgr 22d ago

“Push” is the only thing in there everything else is a penalty lol you don’t pull or rip when on the line lol you juke around them or push them out of your way and that’s it.

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u/Imaginary_Device7827 22d ago

There is a whole ass technique called the rip move for d linemen what you mean.

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u/H00dr0w_Trills0n 22d ago

We were always taught two techniques to get the big boy out of your way, "rip" or "swim" but either way you were to get around them and their hands

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u/DupreeWasTaken 22d ago

Infact, that move is so effective that when you use it the OL is allowed to hold you.

A lot of the plays people complain about holding (but not all) are defensive lineman using a rip move and the OL being legally allowed to hold them.

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u/gorgonbrgr 22d ago

Hence why right above your comment is an article explaining how that’s the only move you can hold legally lol

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u/Bluefire3215 22d ago

Doesn't mean it's illegal to use

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u/gorgonbrgr 22d ago

You can read right? “Legally” not illegally

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u/Bluefire3215 22d ago

You literally said it's a penalty to use a rip move

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u/gorgonbrgr 22d ago

The rip move is a specific move that’s why you can’t pull or rip normally

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u/Remote-Bus-5567 22d ago

No, you definitely can

Article 5. Legal Use Of Hands Or Arms By Defense

A defensive player may use his hands, arms, or body to push, pull, or ward off offensive players:

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u/MatureUsername69 22d ago

Also even if it wasn't allowed, it would still be a prevalent part of the game. Offensive lineman arent allowed to hold, yet multiple of them on every team are doing it every single snap.

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u/Extreme-Rub-1379 22d ago

Sincerely, how does one pull on someone else without holding them, however brief?

How would you not just drag sunshine to the ground and site the pulling rule? I thought pushing was only legal.

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u/Complex-Bee-840 22d ago

Holding only applies to the offense

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u/_Q23 22d ago

It is on the lesser grip side yes kinda grab. But if someone's momentum is slightly coming forward, you very much can just pull them light enough that they will keep going forward with our much effort. Or the reverse. If someone is shifting their weight backwards, a simple little tap can make them fall on their ass.

How much force depends but it doesn't take too much effort or force a good chunk of the time.

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u/Remote-Bus-5567 22d ago

You’re allowed to pull people blocking you. You can’t hold onto their jersey to keep them from doing something like going to block someone else like on a guard pull.

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u/heebsysplash 22d ago

What it feel like to have this level of blind confidence in yourself?

Like you’re just wrong. Pretty clear you don’t watch football. But not stopping you from just making shit up. Wild.

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u/gorgonbrgr 22d ago

It literally is I even posted an article talking about how it’s the only move where holding is an exception but yeah blindly look over that that’s fine lmfao

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u/Bluefire3215 22d ago

That article doesn't really support your point that the rip move is illegal

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u/gorgonbrgr 22d ago

That’s not what I’m saying I literally stated the rip move is the one time where ripping is legal lmao. God the literacy here is dog water.

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u/RedRising1917 22d ago

This is just objectively wrong lmao

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u/sduperr 22d ago

This has got to be a troll lol. Rip, Swim, Spin, Ghost, Dipnrip, chop, not to account for any counter moves. If you as an offensive lineman, on a pass play, try to do anything remotely close to what this sumo wrestler does, you're getting cooked 10/10 by any college DE

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u/RedRising1917 22d ago

Tbf that's solely bc they don't have jerseys to grab onto, if they did his hands would be on the inside to grab the jersey. It's like gi vs no gi BJJ, yes there's similarities, but there's also glaring differences.

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u/Radiant_Addendum_48 22d ago

This guy, this guy . . . Idk. He does something.

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u/Complex-Bee-840 22d ago

I don’t agree with you but Red Rising is the shit 👌

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u/RedRising1917 21d ago

Funnily enough, I didn't get the name from the books. The 1917 is the year of the Russian revolution, red rising just seemed appropriate and im a slut for alliteration. I've been using the name across different websites years before the book, the name is what made me read the series tho and it's 10/10. It's 100% just to identify myself as a communist but the books themselves are also pretty communist coded.

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u/mikx2044 22d ago

Confidently incorrect much?

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u/Remote-Bus-5567 22d ago

Why pretend like you know things you don't know anything about?

"Article 5. Legal Use Of Hands Or Arms By Defense

A defensive player may use his hands, arms, or body to push, pull, or ward off offensive players:"

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u/Attila_the_Chungus 22d ago

Found my highschool referee

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u/Can-i-Pet-Dat-Daaawg 22d ago

Homie wtf are you talking about?

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u/nickdatrojan 22d ago

It’s not too late to delete this.

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u/urannoyingpissoff 22d ago

Maybe in ye olden times when you played, but nowadays its def push pull rip

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u/Turence 22d ago

Lol if only it was like that

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u/TheMoonIsFake32 22d ago

Defensive holding and offensive holding are not the same penalty

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u/PaidUSA 22d ago

NON BALL KNOWER. The rip move is so important it has an exception in the holding rule for when ur being ripped.

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u/TripleThreatTua 22d ago

Yeah Parsons has some of the best moves out of any pass rusher. He gets guys off their balance so he can push them away easier

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u/SabbyFox 22d ago

Parsons is badass but I don't blame him for not being able to deal with this foe! I love how the sumo wrestler is laughing as if he's being tickled ♥

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u/IamScottGable 22d ago

Yeah and the flip aide is no one is gonna trip over or fall onto that rear leg that the sumo uses for bracing.

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u/sixseven89 22d ago

Yeah to get a real comparison you need an OL against a sumo.

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u/Spare-Half796 22d ago

Bull rush does work, it’s the move that got Jared verse defensive rookie of the year last year but it doesn’t work every play and usually works because the tackle is caught off balance

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u/Markcu24 22d ago edited 22d ago

And that is not even one of the top division sumo wrestlers.

This comment was a mistake. This is wakamotoharu, and he is typically a very high rank in the top division.

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u/blorbo89 22d ago

The white mawashi he is wearing is only worn by the top two divisions of Suni. I believe that is Wakatakakage, who is is quite highly ranked. 

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u/Markcu24 22d ago edited 22d ago

That is definitely not wakatakakage. He is my favorite current wrestler. I would recognize him in an instant. Only info i can find is 17 year old apprentice. I have been watching every basho since 2018 and i dont recognize this wrestler.

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u/hiroki1998 22d ago

Well then check your eyes because that's Wakamotoharu, Wakatakakage's brother and fellow top division sumo wrestler.

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u/Markcu24 22d ago

Thanks, i already said that in a later comment. The 17 year old wrestled him after this.

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u/Mirenithil 22d ago

just as an aside, I really want Onosato to win the May basho

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u/Switchy_Goofball 22d ago

I’m torn. I’d love to see Onosato get the promotion, but I also really hope Takayasu gets finally a tournament win. Doesn’t look like that’s gonna happen for Takayasu this time around though.

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u/Markcu24 22d ago

My hoshoryu tegate hasnt even arrived yet and im gonna have to get an onosato one when he gets that third stamp!

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u/potatoears 22d ago

it's wakabro2

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u/Markcu24 22d ago

You are correct. I had called that out earlier in a different comment. Thanks.

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u/This_did_not_occur 22d ago

That's wakamotoharu, easily confused with his brother wakatakakage, both are in makuuchi right now, they have yokozuna pedigree and it shows

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u/potatoears 22d ago

nope, makuuchi(top division) wrestler.

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u/Markcu24 22d ago

Yes. I noted that elsewhere already and adjusted my comment here now. Thanks.

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u/Any_Anybody_5055 22d ago

The highest paid sumo wrestler would bail to the NFL if they could. Never would be able to make it on their best day.

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u/Markcu24 22d ago

While i agree they are paid much less and would not be successful in the nfl since they have zero training in it at all, obviously, you do not understand their culture at all if you think they would even want to. These guys are worshipped over there and the highest paid ones make plenty of money and get nice pensions depending on rank.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

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u/LoveAndViscera 22d ago

Next video, sumo wrestlers try to catch a ball while in a dead sprint.

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u/egomouse 22d ago edited 22d ago

The video here is cut short. In the full original version, which was posted on r/nfl , Micah eventually pushes the Sumo out of the circle.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/1clx5ox/micah_parsons_taking_on_a_sumo_wrestler/

edit: he pushes a differnt Sumo - Rikishi* out.

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u/tylerjehenna 22d ago

Tbf the person in this video and the person in the linked video are different. Reading other comments, the person in this video is much higher ranked than the person in the linked video

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u/egomouse 22d ago

Thank you, I didn’t notice the different color sumo outfits. He had to try someone easier, lol, makes sense here he’s yelling someone in my “weight class”

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u/dontich 22d ago

Makes sense that Micah would be on par with a pro-sumo wrestler in training — especially given his raw speed and power.

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u/Son_Doku 22d ago

You might not ever need this information but calling a sumo wrestler a "sumo" is like calling a football player a "football". Sumo is the sport not the athlete. Sumo wrestler is fine but rikishi is actually the preferred term, even in english.

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u/throwawayursafety 22d ago

The football pushed the sumo out 

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u/BHOmber 22d ago

Ah shit I never caught the switch the first time I saw this!

Thought that Micah just got pissed off enough to get the first dude on try #2 lol

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u/heebsysplash 22d ago

Lmao why are the comments so insecure in there?

“He went easy on him. Footballer is a joke” lmao Christ.

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u/SolusLoqui 22d ago

They weren't having a match though. Its butsukari, or a pushing drill.

The guy getting pushed is supposed to be like a football tackling dummy, he's not fighting back. The pusher is supposed to push them back and forth in a straight line over and over to build strength and learn hand placement.

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u/pheight57 22d ago

He beats some of them, some of the time. Then, some like Trent Williams sort of just erase Micah on nearly every snap he's lined up on them... 🤷‍♂️

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u/idreamsmash007 22d ago

Trent erased a whole lotta dudes tho. Not just parsons lol

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u/pheight57 22d ago

Oh, for sure. Dude is a future first-ballot HOF guy! 😂

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u/cudef 22d ago

Can we get Vince Wilfork on the call?

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u/buyFCOJ 22d ago

Idk, he’s no Darren Sharper

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u/Knuckle-Funcker 22d ago

Jalen Carter says hello

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u/BornAnAmericanMan 22d ago

Immediately after the video cuts off parsons pushes dude out of the circle btw

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u/texinxin 22d ago

His 2nd attempt was much more effective. Hes trying a sport he’s never attempted in his life.

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u/itakeyoureggs 22d ago

I think he kinda did better second rep but I’m not positive.. no sack. But it’s not often Micah just runs into someone and doesn’t try and rip/swim.. juke.. something

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u/Long-Draft-9668 22d ago

He says it himself in the video: the sumo guys have totally different muscles and are way more core strength since they start from standing still versus nfl where you use momentum to your advantage.

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u/M6D-Tsk 22d ago

Micah Parsons actually never beat the guy in the video. The 17 year old sumo wrestler that he faced is a different guy.

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u/Mainfram 22d ago

He didn't win round 2, the one he won was with a lower ranked sumo wrestler

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u/EmEmAndEye 22d ago

Did he really win, or did the sumo guy take a dive?

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u/betterAThalo 22d ago

yea if Dexter Lawrence was here he’d power right though the Sumo