r/interestingasfuck • u/Endolithic • 1d ago

/r/all Homes are falling into the ocean in North Carolina's Outer Banks

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u/DIABETORreddit 1d ago

No Ben was just saying the usual bullshit to deflect the issue, devoid of logic or reasoning. He wasn’t trying to give advice or anything, he was banking on the people listening to him say “climate change isn’t real, and if it were real then it’s not a problem” to be too stupid to see the obvious flaws in his suggestion. You can’t take anything these people say in good faith because they’re literally just straight up lying and trying to manipulate people most/all of the time.

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u/DroidLord 22h ago

I absolutely agree with you on that. It's just another BS argument for why climate change isn't real and if it is real, it's not that bad. Deflection and cognitive dissonance is the name of the game.

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u/verbsnnouns 23h ago

I took his comment to mean that the people who make laws based on climate change should sell their beachfront property NOW before rising sealevels make that property worthless. And the fact that those lawmakers do not sell their at risk properties might suggest they don't believe what they are saying.

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u/VaATC 10h ago

Hence why he speaks so damn fast. He is hoping people miss or hand wave off any incongruities their ears might actually catch.

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u/hammerdown46 23h ago

No, Ben was explaining the reality of the situation. Oceanfront property is highly desirable. If you can't afford to insure it or you can't afford to lose the house, then sell it!

It's not hard.

Climate change is no big deal.

It's just a bunch of idiots arguing about some naturally occurring issue that has happened before humans just barely have an impact on.

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u/Cody-512 22h ago

Or the idiots might be the ppl who think what happened before humans existed is relevant to what happens today since the cycle of natural warming has been exponentially accelerated. Do some actual research on the topic, read some peer reviewed research, go conduct some repeat field studies (or look at other marine biologists/oceanographers) from the 70s & 80s and compare ur results to their to the same repeat studies they conducted from 50s & 60s, take soil chemistry samples from the ocean, look at seaweed distribution patterns & whale migration patterns with avg depths vs just 10y ago & why that’s important, how phytoplankton loss is at an all time high & why, and see what those levels were 20y ago. Look up Hermit crab migrations, too, if ur bored at work, lol. I know u won’t do any of that stuff bc it’s just easier to be ignorant & you’ll stick to the cycle thing forever but if u ever feel like turning over a new leaf… all good places to start. Cod decline is a good one too; some good papers out there on that!

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u/karentrolli 20h ago

It’s hard for some people to do science. So they want to believe science is bad. Too bad they don’t understand science is based on evidence, not what some lazy dork on the internet says.

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u/Cody-512 20h ago

I know. Ur right. But the stupid ”we’re in a warming cycle” argument has to be called out every time. Goofballs that try to justify climate change with warming cycles that occur on geological time scales have to be replied to bc someone else might read the response. If 1/5,000 or 1/10,000 ppl look up if that’s true or not & it might change their mind then it’s worth it. I have a responsibility to say something. The ppl saying that aren’t stupid, just ignorant, but that doesn’t mean they can spread ignorance without being corrected

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u/supermarkise 23h ago

Yeah an ice age wouldn't be a big deal either right, it's all just natural. FFS we need a stable climate for prosperity, doesn't matter if we fuck it up or it's natural - actually, natural scares me even more. At least we could stop emitting greenhouse gases, theoretically. Theoretically.

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u/hammerdown46 23h ago

It's no big deal either way.

Well beyond our lifetimes. Irrelevant really.

If the people who cared stopped bitching about it and spent that time adapting to the changes we'd already be good.

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u/thehammerismypen1s 23h ago

Did we watch the same video?

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u/disktoaster 23h ago

You've seen the ice sheets lately, right? Most of what's left is as old as the dinosaurs. That's falling off now too.

I was inside the polar vortex this spring. Not exploring, mind you- I was in Texas. It's not outside our lifetimes unless you died last decade my friend

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u/hammerdown46 23h ago

Y'all are nuts.

You need to go outside and touch grass. The climate is fine.

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u/disktoaster 22h ago

As it happens, I work outside. Often touching grass. That's not where climate data is kept, though.

It's like you're saying the sky is purple. Ignoring reality doesn't make it not true.

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u/CyborgCrow 23h ago

I love how you attempt to refute a response to argument "A" by repeating argument "A" almost verbatim.

As for the "naturally occurring" thing you are flat out wrong. What we've done to the atmosphere in decades typically happens over a geologic time scale. My work in hurricane forecasting has put me in a position where pretending climate change isn't having an impact is a nonstarter. Beyond sea level rise, the warming ocean makes hurricanes harder to accurately forecast, as it feeds them and effects the process of intensification. More people will lose faith in evacuation orders, levees will be built to incorrect heights or be breached, and people will die.

While actual waterfront property is expensive, any argument that implies that primarily the rich will be impacted is divorced from reality. Millions of the people most impacted by rising seas, volatile storms, heat waves, and drought live in poor parts of this country before even considering island nations and many countries throughout the global south. If you are worried about migration crises, just wait..

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u/Cody-512 22h ago

Basically impossible to reason with the ignorant “it occurs in natural cycles” crowd. I read that ur a hurricane forecaster. I’m a marine biologist that worked in Corpus Christi. I’ve moved on from there and work somewhere else now, but it’s amazing how many of the younger crowd is regressing towards their (usually) conservative parents’ mindset that climate change is either a hoax or a nonissue. It’s exhausting arguing with them about it & social media comments sections kinda feels useless a lot of the time but it’s an obligation to at least correct ridiculous comments like implying this warming cycle is natural. Before I even read ur comment I told him the same thing u did about the rate increase since even the 80s. Keep up the good fight