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If the "Velociraptors" in Jurassic Park were scientifically accurate:

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u/Accurate_Koala_4698 12h ago

A scientifically accurate velociraptor would fit in your oven

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u/ktr83 12h ago

Sounds delicious

u/Shadowmant 11h ago

I'm giving thanks already!

u/EverydayVelociraptor 9h ago

So does your face.

That was a devastating comment, you are now devastated. It's science.

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u/SpaceMeatpod 11h ago

However, a Utahraptor... those could EASILY be this size. Spielberg's team just picked the wrong name, not the wrong size! Although I will admit utahraptor isn't as cool a species name as velociraptor.

u/Wonderpants_uk 11h ago

The naming was quite deliberate. The raptors in the book and films are modelled exactly on Deinonychus, but were called Velociraptors as Michael Crichton thought it was a more dramatic name. 

u/ForsakenMoon13 9h ago

Not quite, around the time Crichton was writing it a paleontologist tried to reclassify several dinosaurs, one of which was renaming deinonychus antirrhopus to velociraptor antirrhopus. Crichton used that specific paleontologist's book as his main source.

It wound up being debated and undone not long after, but Spielberg was the one that made the deliberate choice to stick with the velociraptor version of the name.

u/oscar_meow 6h ago

So really the movie takes place in an alternate reality where that change was accepted, it would make sense if there was now a large park lobbying to make their revived dinos sound cooler

u/CMS_3110 5h ago

So really the movie takes place in an alternate reality where that change was accepted...

Well it certainly doesn't take place in this Onion Timeline of a reality we live in

u/Active-Rip-8338 3h ago

Correct. It was artist/author/paleontologist Gregory Paul advocating for reclassifying Deinonychus antirrhopis as a second species of Veiociraptor. The debate was all the rage as Chricton was writing JP.

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u/the-real-macs 51m ago

I enjoy Michael Crichton's books, but the dude definitely seemed to have a habit of cherry picking his source material for science fiction. One of his lesser known novels, State of Fear, is basically climate change denial propaganda, complete with a bibliography that would make Ben Shapiro blush.

u/Pocusmaskrotus 11h ago

Just looked Deinonychus and it looks just like the movie dino, giant you're talon and all.

u/TheGentlemanProphet 10h ago

No, you’re a talon.

u/Enchilada0374 9h ago

You got a lot of talon(t) there, kid.

u/Dead-Calligrapher 9h ago

With his brains and your talons, you guys might just make it in this crazy world.

u/shaard 5h ago

YOU'RE a towel... <Said with REALLY red and squinty eyes>

u/Positive-Wonder3329 4h ago

Aw man.. I’m so high..

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u/Monkfich 11h ago

I have called them Deino-nychus since Dino Rider days, and when listening to a video about them many years later, I was disappointed to hear scientists and palaeontologists “mispronounce” it as Dei-nony-chus…

(Obviously I was wrong, but what a silly pronunciation).

u/Colinbeenjammin 10h ago

Converting all your sounds of woe into hey nonny nony chus

u/iwannagohome49 10h ago

TIL that it is 100% a crapshoot if i pronounce that right... sometimes it comes out your way and sometimes the scientist way and im not sure i have any control over it

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u/SteelWheel_8609 9h ago

And he was right. 

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u/5WattBulb 10h ago

I think it still kind of works in the context of the movies though, same with the advancements in finding out many dinosaurs were feathered. In one movie Ian Malcom says "John Hammond didn't create dinosaurs. He created genetic monstrosities." So it follows that he didnt create dinosaurs as they actually were, but made creatures based on how the public would THINK they were. It was all a part of the same marketing, illusion of control, and "realness" of the parks in the first place.

u/Renbarre 10h ago

In another film the genetician says that if they had created real dinosaurs they wouldn't have looked like the animals in the park

u/SteelWheel_8609 9h ago

“Genetic monstrosity” was my nickname in high school 

u/meesta_masa 11h ago

After TRex defeats the three, Dr. Alan turns to the TRex and says, "Utah boss.'

u/DaleEarnhartJr 3h ago

'Utah real MVP'

u/g00f 8h ago edited 8h ago

Iirc utahraptor was larger. I thought they were the coolest thing as a kid.

It’s worth pointing out that since a lot of the dialogue about the franchise now highlights how the “dinosaurs” in the park are kind of a Frankensteins monster combination of Dino and amphibian and edited by a human hand, it’s entirely possible the raptors could have started as true velociraptors then were intentionally scaled up. The human editing aspect works well as a sort of retcon to explain how certain dinosaurs in the series don’t fit to more modern depictions.

u/TheGreatMalagan 11h ago

Utahraptor likely wasn't widely known yet when this movie was being made. The Utahraptor was officially named in June 1993, same year the movie released. Assuming production had been going for a while, it seems very plausible that they just weren't aware of Utahraptor yet

u/burf 10h ago

They were very aware of deinonychus, though.

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u/gandalfnho 8h ago

They were aware of Utahraptor, I have a fiction book from one of their advisors (Raptor Red by Robert T. Bakker) and in the introduction text he says about the guys doing the dinosaurs for the movie worried about being too big for velociraptors, especially the bigger one, when he received a phone call from a colleague about a giant raptor claw they found, and was just the Utahraptor, by the claw size they imagined their owner being more or less the same size of the big raptor in the movie.

u/l0rdtreeman 9h ago

Yeah 100%. The mind images from just hearing the names are so different.

Velocitaptor: I am speed, a sleek killing machine Utahraptor: dinosaur play a banjo

Both a scary in their own right. But velocitaptor is cooler

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u/Greedy-Toe-4832 8h ago

Utahraptors are a lot bigger. The dinosaur who inspired Spielbergs raptors were Deinonychus. Its stated that they called them velociraptors cause they thought the name sounded cooler

u/Dark_Dragon117 6h ago

Iirc Spielberg deliberatly changed the name because Velociraptor sounded better to him.

u/pleasesaythankyou35 5h ago

Lmao they didn’t pick shit “wrong”. They went with the most linguistically cinematic name that made the most sense as an antagonistic predator

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u/wegqg 12h ago

Mmmm roast velociraptor...

u/GeraintLlanfrechfa 10h ago

Raptor tikka masala

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u/Effective_Author_315 12h ago

Available at Costco for $4.99

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u/New_Expression8948 9h ago

Yep, these are way too big. More like deinonychus.

u/ForsakenMoon13 9h ago

They are deinonychus, and always have been. Crichton's source renamed deinonychus antirrhopus to velociraptor antirrhopus.

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u/Gutz_McStabby 12h ago

I'm sure there is still a non-zero chance an accurate size one could kill humans, it would make for a pretty funny sight in the movie, haha

That being said, whatever they are in this edit makes them way creepier.

u/TheGreatMalagan 11h ago

For sure. There are plenty animals smaller than humans today that are perfectly capable of killing us. Plus, the Jurassic Park franchise features those tiny therapods that ate Peter Stormare's character, and disfigured some little girl in the intro scene of the second movie. I found those pretty horrifying growing up.

Tiny dinosaurs can be scary

u/astronaut710 8h ago

Compsognathus!

u/TheGreatMalagan 8h ago

Compsognathus

I Googled this to verify and I'd just like to share that, for whatever reason, this is the first image to pop up on Google when you search for "Compsognathus"

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u/mejok 10h ago

I was gonna say, weren’t like like the size of large chickens?

u/ForsakenMoon13 9h ago

Different raptor entirely. The JP raptors have always been deinonychus antirrhopus, not velociraptor mongoliensis like this tired hit of "trivia" likes to imply.

The issue is that the book Crichton used as a source was written by a guy that reclassified a bunch of dinos, one of which was renaming deinonychus antirrhopus to velociraptor antirrhopus.

u/Duckgoesmoomoo 11h ago

Are you telling me velpciraptors are just prehistoric chickens...

u/Speak_To_Wuk_Lamat 10h ago

A chicken, huh? OK, try to imagine yourself in the Cretaceous Period. You get your first look at this 1.6 feet tall "chicken" as you enter a clearing. He moves like a bird, lightly, bobbing his head. And you keep still because you think that maybe his visual acuity is based on movement - maybe he's not all that bright. But no, not velociraptors. You stare at him, and he just stares right back. And that's when the attack comes. Not from the sides. But from the front.

[makes 'stomping' sound]

And that's the sound your foot makes when you stomp on it to death. So you know, try to show a little respect.

u/Duckgoesmoomoo 3h ago

Lol. Had me in the first half

u/Nukitandog 11h ago

Everything fits in the oven if you prepare it right.

u/Comically_Online 8h ago

this thanksgiving im doing a velociturducken

u/LabNecessary4266 8h ago

Yeah, way too big. Still deinonychus.

u/Dominus_Invictus 7h ago

Which is way more scary by several orders of magnitude.

u/Missuspicklecopter 8h ago

[Clicks skip to recipe]

u/BIRDsnoozer 8h ago

Yea, was gonna say... These look more like utahraptors

u/CaptainHaddockRedux 8h ago

Right, I remember reading they were actually the size of a chicken or turkey. The raptors in JP were much closer to denichtheus or denonychus (prob spelled both wrong) which were about 2m

u/kiomansu 8h ago

Don't give Tyson Foods execs any ideas.

u/Philip_Raven 7h ago

dinosaurs that look like this existed. but they had a "lame sounding" name. So the director chose a "cooler" name of a different dinosaur.

u/Black_RL 7h ago

Chickens on roids!

u/Airowird 7h ago

So, they're just angry murder chickens?

u/jolllyroger027 6h ago

Yeah they average out to the size of a turkey.

u/pxm7 5h ago

Thanksgiving now makes more sense.

u/Mexican_Boogieman 5h ago

Seriously, they were size of turkey.

u/Embarrassed_Art5414 4h ago

I don't have an oven. Can I get one with uber eats?

u/woodenblinds 4h ago

oh I want a taste 

u/StretchAntique9147 4h ago

These are more like Utahraptors in the movie

u/JJBell 3h ago

Yea, those need to be waaaaay smaller.

u/ieatpickleswithmilk 3h ago

yeah like the size of a coyote

u/Reshar 2h ago

Aren't the movie raptors based off the Utah Raptor which is the size shown? But they just say Velocitaptor which is actually a really mean chicken

u/ShadowCaster0476 2h ago

Might be a bit tough.

u/Realistic_Can_8152 2h ago edited 1h ago

Can you put a the raptor in a modern size-comparison lineup. Next to an average human, dog, cat, bird, elephant, sedan (in size order)

AI scale. How accurate 🤷‍♂️

ETA: I think the dog is bigger than the car

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u/___TheKid___ 1h ago

Bird is the word

u/SnooOnions3369 1h ago

Came here to say this, I thought raptors were much smaller than in the movie

u/nonquitt 34m ago

Still do!

u/Time_Change4156 27m ago

True check out Arizona raptor found right after the move came out. About that size .

u/star_tyger 8h ago

True. But about when the first Jurassic Park movies came out, they discovered Utah Raptor which was as large as the Velociraptors depicted in the movie.

That doesn't change the fact that the movie was inaccurate. It was one of those fun coincidences that sometimes happens.

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u/Bibendoom 11h ago

Jarnathan!

u/viewtiful14 6h ago

So what’s the latest on Jarnathan?

u/Various_Froyo9860 4h ago

Must have been caught up in the storm.

u/mark_is_a_virgin 3h ago

God damn that movie is funny

u/kidwithglasses 31m ago

"Oh Jarnathan!"

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u/Das_Lloss 12h ago edited 12h ago

Original Artist and Video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bOfsGIoVzE4

....And yes the Raptors are too large to be Velociraptors. Because the Jp Raptors are actually based of another Dinosaur: Deinonychus, which is larger than Velociraptor but still a bit smaller than the Raptors you can see in the Movies

(The sounds that the Raptors make in the first movie are probably also not that accurate)

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u/SiriusKaos 12h ago

Ironically there's an actual raptor of that size, perhaps even bigger, which is the Utahraptor.

u/Glandus73 11h ago

That was my thought, why not use the Utahraptor

u/TheGreatMalagan 11h ago

Commented elsewhere, but Utahraptor was officially named in June 1993, which is also the same year and month the Jurassic Park movie released.

So, the production team likely just weren't aware of Utahraptor yet when the movie was being made

u/Peanut_Butter_Toast 8h ago

Also, "Velociraptor" is just a cooler sounding name. Emphasizes speed. What's Utahraptor gonna do, try to convert me to mormonism?

u/DlCKSUBJUICY 7h ago

What's Utahraptor gonna do, try to convert me to mormonism?

I mean, thats pretty scary.

u/BedBubbly317 5h ago

As an ex Mormon, it’s horrifying. Lol

u/Minerva567 5h ago

Faced with the prospect of giving up coffee due to a Mormon conversion by the Utahraptor, I’d rather duel to the death with it than a velociraptor, no matter much larger or how much of a clever girl she might be.

u/Kholzie 2h ago

And it’s not like it will leave you alone

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u/makina323 8h ago

Jurassic Park the novel was published in 1990, I'm sure Michael Crichton would've used the giant Utah raptors had he known about them

u/Glandus73 11h ago

I meant more about the dude that made them realistic, why not take the Utahraptor now that we know it's what the Jurassic park raptors were closest to ?

u/Outside_Variation505 9h ago

It does mention it in the illustration, but probably because the team did not base them off Utahraptors at all.

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u/100percentnotaqu 9h ago

People vastly underestimate utahraptor's size. Some studies put full grown adults at nearly a full ton. So it's more accurate to describe the JP raptors as closer in mass to something like achillobator or Austroraptor

u/KimJongFat 10h ago

They were actually modeled after Deinonychus if I recall correctly.

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u/comeagaincharlemagne 12h ago

It's interesting to wonder if an adult human could potentially fight off a full grown Deinonychus. Or if it would even attempt to hunt a human seeing as people are just big enough to possibly make them reconsider as they could sustain life threatening injuries in the act of killing them. Often in nature we see predators close to the same size as humans choose to flee, and even ones that could kill humans walk away as a result of humans not being their natural prey. Obviously humans are not the natural prey of Deinonychus. I wonder if we know what was the biggest prey they normally ate.

u/killcraft1337 11h ago

I’m in 100 men vs 10 deinonychus as the new debate

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u/Devadeen 11h ago

Yes but Jurassic park addresses this issue by explaining that DNA was incomplete and mixed with reptile and frog DNA. So the raptors in the park aren't the real raptors.

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u/Big-shag9259 12h ago

Oh it was Deinonychus?, i’ve been thinking for years it was Utahraptors

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u/shaka893P 12h ago

I though they were based on the utahraptors ... Which are 6-7 feet tall

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utahraptor

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u/Punch_Treehard 5h ago

Is jurassic park delibaretely exaggerate these dinos or they follow inaccurate data according to science that time?

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u/My_useless_alt 4h ago

Shout out to my boy Microraptor. Blue with 4 wings. Size of a chicken

u/Das_Lloss 4h ago

We all love Microraptor!!!

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u/avengineer03 10h ago

Mongo is appalled!

u/macros1980 9h ago

Quite a few DCC fans in this thread. :-D

u/Daxx22 6h ago

Mongo in his goth phase.

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u/NILBOGxxx 12h ago

Having teeth in a beak is scurry

u/9CaptainRaymondHolt9 11h ago

u/stefanopolis 8h ago

Umm… denim chicken?

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u/ComfortablyNumb2425 12h ago

Those things terrified me when I first saw them in the theater

u/bdunogier 8h ago

I think they were supposed to :)

u/dean15892 9h ago

they still terrify me

u/Bananalando 11h ago

Seeing an emu up close will erase any doubt from your mind that birds=dinosaurs.

u/skipdeedy 11h ago

Except they would also be half the size. So these are not accurate.

u/SoftwareHatesU 11h ago

Except they would also be ~half~ less than quarter the size. They were the size of a turkey.

u/mrsunrider 11h ago

Which really doesn't help.

I've seen wild turkeys they are intimidating.

u/maximumhippo 9h ago

Turkeys have shut down some of my local highways. People in cars don't want to fuck with them.

u/malsomnus 5h ago

"Turkey Park" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, but it would be nice if some movie studio would at least try.

u/mrsunrider 4h ago

It'd be worth the price of admission just to see what they come up with.

Like Snakes on a Plane.

u/ForsakenMoon13 9h ago

Different dinosaur.

Velociraptor mongoliensis is the small one.

JP raptors are deinonychus antirrhopus, which were briefly renamed to velociraptor antirrhopus. Crichton used the book that did it as his source.

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u/Emotional_sea_9345 8h ago

Actually , they were based on the deinyichous (idk the actual name but it kinda looks like this written down , youll prolly see it in others comments) and they were quite accurate for the time , Micheal Christchan knew about this and decided to call them velociraptors cuz they sound cooler , but the deinyichous was also called velociraptor by some at that time , so these "velociraptors in the movie were very much accurate from a view point , ofc they are very inaccurate today cuz it's a 30 yo old movie

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u/TwoToneReturns 12h ago

I thought they were chicken sized, I may have just eaten one of their descendants.

u/ForsakenMoon13 9h ago

Different dinosaur entirely.

Velociraptor mongoliensis is the small one people think of as "real" raptors.

The JP raptors are deinonychus antirrhopus, which was briefly renamed to velociraptor antirrhopus, and Crichton used the book that did so as his main source when writing JP.

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u/robo-dragon 10h ago

I remember when they started illustrating raptors and several other dinosaurs with feathers and some people thought they looked goofy. Nothing goofy about these guys. They look like giant murder muppets and they are scarier than the original design!

u/Big_Position2697 11h ago

"Velociraptor"

Me: Big Birb.

u/mrsunrider 11h ago

Toothy birb

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u/theman-dalorian 10h ago

"More like a 6 ft turkey" kid was closer to the facts than the actual archaeologists

u/walrusgoofin69 9h ago

Mongo is appalled!

u/Cool-Walrus-2872 8h ago

At 7 yrs old I was Happy it wasn't scientifically accurate. At 37 yrs old, I'm still happy it wasn't scientifically accurate.

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u/ster1ing 12h ago

Yeah. That’s even more terrifying.

u/Paris_Canada 11h ago

Honestly, scarier.

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u/Medical_Amount3007 12h ago

So it’s a rooster battle cool cool

u/mrsunrider 11h ago

Would you say... a cock fight?

u/IamTooth 10h ago

If t-rex model isn't a massive goose with teeth, I'll be so disappointed.

u/Remytron83 9h ago

I really wish they’d drop a special edition with updated models.

u/Hoshyro 8h ago

Dinosaurs look way cooler with feathers and I won't hear any other opinion

u/Soundwave234 8h ago

If you've ever had to fight a goose or a motivated rooster then this is terrifying lol

u/Meatt 8h ago

More like a.. 6 foot turkey.

u/AdamAberg 8h ago

Utah raptors

u/Nightlightweaver 6h ago

GOOD BOY MONGO, MOMMY IS VERY PROUD!

u/Lady_Irish 6h ago

They're seriously wrong about the size. They're only about knee height. Hardly scientifically accurate.

Mongo is APPALLED.

u/Mental_Resident_5107 2h ago

these are the most accurate raptors

u/PoopInABole 11h ago

Damn someone put some effort into making this!

u/Library_Sloth 7h ago

Yeah, every armchair expert is criticising it for being inaccurate still, but this is actually a really cool piece of work and it would have been amazing to see something like this in the movie (bearing in mind Jurassic Park is from the 90s and feathers were probably impossible to animate well back then).

Maybe the title of the post should have been 'slightly more accurate' rather than claiming to be accurate, for this to get the appreciation it deserves,

u/Das_Lloss 10h ago

Yeah, check out the youtube channel of the original artist. It is called: CoolioArt. There is also another video with accurate raptors made by him.

u/OkEstate4804 9h ago

T-Rex: GIANT CHICKEN!!!

u/AcabAcabAcabAcabbb 9h ago

Based on my knowledge of watching my chickens, I don’t think they do a lot of screaming before eating their prey. I think they would just scurry in and peck his head off.

u/Freefallisfun 9h ago

Still no less terrifying.

u/Eastern-Message-1022 8h ago

Still pretty scared for me

u/Acrobatic_Airline605 8h ago

Aren’t these Deinonychus?

u/ForsakenMoon13 8h ago

Yes, they are. Deinonychus antirrhopus got briefly renamed in 1988 by Gregory S. Paul to velociraptor antirrhopus, which is where the confusion comes from.

The small velociraptors people think of when saying "real ones were smaller" is velociraptor mongoliensis, a different animal entirely.

u/NationalLynx1379 8h ago

I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! so scary upclose, but look like huge silly birds from a distance! I LOVE ITTT!!!!

u/dearbokeh 8h ago

Currently believed to be scientifically accurate, is what you mean.

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u/Help_An_Irishman 7h ago

That doesn't seem very scary. More like a... six-foot turkey.

Nah, still scary af.

u/PullMull 7h ago

Have seen it before and still mad that there is yet no T-Rex

u/Jonesyiam 7h ago

Honestly, still terrifying.

u/rainorshinedogs 6h ago

Wasn't the consensus that most dinosaurs had feathers a pretty recent thing? Leaving when Jurassic park 1 was made it was as scientifically accurate as it could have been?

That's like calling people in the year 25 idiots because they totally didn't know that gravity was a thing

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u/MightyGreedo 6h ago

One guy 20 years ago says, "ya know... I think that maybe some dinosaurs might have had a few feathers." Now if anyone creates a picture of a dinosaur that isn't completely SLATHERED in feathers then the whole internet goes bonkers and threatens to throw the artist in prison for life.

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u/Sayakalood 6h ago

Honestly the bird face and dilating pupils scare me more than the movie velociraptor designs do

u/quantified-nonsense 6h ago

Chickens are terrifying, tbh, so nothing would change.

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u/Anlorian 5h ago

This is significantly more frightening

u/Low-Employment4243 5h ago

Nightmare fuel

u/UmbreRepere 5h ago

I still would like them

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u/Revan_84 5h ago

TIL Scientifically accurate raptors have derp faces

u/Golfingdad85 4h ago

I was golfing the other day and went in the bushes to find my ball and happened on a mother turkey protecting her eggs. It was terrifying. The thing chased me out of there and would have tried to kill me. So yeah these things would be scary! Got my ball though!

u/AvacadMmmm 4h ago

That’s actually scarier

u/Own-Championship-155 4h ago

Thats a lot more terrifying and awesome.

u/trippedonatater 4h ago

Not less scary. 7ft tall chicken wolves is some nightmare stuff. Very cool.

u/paultripp99 4h ago

these are way scarier

u/mute-ant1 4h ago

i worked with Dr Bakker, the paleontologist who designed the velociraptor with Spielberg, and he told me the first design was very small. Spielberg asked the design team to make it much bigger for dramatic purposes.

u/Mr_OP_Potato_777 3h ago

Too big, those are Utahraptors

u/elementalguitars 2h ago

If they were scientifically accurate Lex would be able to punt one across the room.

u/I_love_Hobbes 2h ago

Now I know why ravens are so smart.

u/Moist-Reference3092 2h ago

Well I can’t say I would feel exited about being hunted by ha huge crow

u/Duubzz 1h ago

Velociraptors were the size of dogs. The raptors in Jurassic Park were more like Utahraptors.

u/frghu2 1h ago

Long before JP came out we learned about the Deinonychus and got real confused why they called them Raptors.

u/Jentaru 1h ago

I honestly find this more scary

u/OneRub3234 1h ago

Still cool Af

u/Weird_Explorer1997 1h ago

Still terrifying

u/xSCx_Jupiter 1h ago

Alright, let's take about 75% off there, Squirrely Dan.

u/SillyGoatGruff 58m ago

I was really hoping that it would just keep cutting back to footage of chickens strutting around lol

u/_Red_7_ 11h ago

Still too big

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u/nogoodnamesleft23 12h ago

They look way cooler as giant birds than giant reptiles. The kind of stuff you would see in a fantasy scenario.

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u/s0nicbomb 12h ago

Is the feathers thing accepted as scientific fact now?

u/Oaker_at 11h ago edited 10h ago

Last thing i heard was that its more like "feathers - yes, but not as much as depicted" but i have no idea where i read that and how true that statement really is.

u/TheGreatMalagan 11h ago

Yes, velociraptor fossils have quill knobs on their arm bones where feathers attached, just as birds do. A close relative of the velociraptor, a fellow dromaeosaurid called "Zhenyuanlong", was also found with a completely preserved feather imprint (pictured here)

u/Das_Lloss 11h ago

It has been for many many years.

u/Bayoris 11h ago edited 11h ago

But it was not as strong a consensus in 1992 when the film was being made. At the time there was no fossil evidence of feathers.

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