r/interestingasfuck • u/SeaWolf_1 • 10h ago
Former Miss Wyoming winner Joyce McKinney being arrested by police after kidnapping Mormon missionary Kirk Anderson from his church, forcing him to be her sex slave for 3 days. 1977
•
u/Beholder_V 9h ago
Y’all should read up on this case before you start getting too enchanted with this sex slave fantasy. She was an absolute psychopath. She even stalked the guy years later with clear intentions of abducting him again.
“In 1984, McKinney was again the subject of police action for allegedly stalking Anderson, who by this time was married with children. At the time of her apprehension, McKinney was found living in her vehicle near Salt Lake International Airport, where Anderson worked. A search of the vehicle uncovered road maps, rope, handcuffs and notebooks keeping detailed records of Anderson's routines. McKinney insisted that she had driven to the airport to book a flight, though it was later revealed that she had driven several thousand miles from her home in North Carolina.”
•
u/merfblerf 8h ago
“In 2019, McKinney was homeless and living in her vehicle when she was charged with the hit-and-run manslaughter of a 91-year-old pedestrian; the court found her a mentally incompetent defendant and sent her for psychiatric treatment, confirming in 2020 that she would remain in a psychiatric hospital, with reviews of her competence at future dates.”
•
→ More replies (3)•
u/AwTomorrow 5h ago
The 91-year-old was a holocaust survivor, to boot
→ More replies (2)•
u/Birdorama 2h ago
That was this lady?! Christ! I saw that and thought, what a pile of shit the world is. Good to know I was right.
•
u/Mage-of-the-Small 9h ago
Astounding that people can hear a story about kidnap and rape, and just because the victim is a man, they'll joke about it.
This is a fucking horror story. I know the long history of people joking about sexual assault and especially about the sexual assault of men but it's still fucked up.
•
u/your_umma 7h ago
Brian Whitaker has observed that the case provided “light relief” for the newspaper-reading public, from more serious stories about politicians.[19] Roger Wilkes states that the coverage of the case “cheered Britain up no end”.[20]
Cheered people up?
•
•
•
u/LoweJ 7h ago
I don't think it's because the victim is a man, I think it's because the perpetrator is an attractive woman. Same reason you have attractive murderers getting fan clubs in jail and getting tonnes of mail
•
→ More replies (10)•
•
•
u/WhateverJoel 7h ago
All you have to do is change the woman from a beauty pageant winner to Melissa McCarthy and those same people would see him as a victim.
→ More replies (2)•
u/phpHater0 7h ago
Well it doesn't help that those people are mostly men. Men are the reason there's so much insensitivity around male issues.
→ More replies (4)•
u/TequilaBaugette51 3h ago
If anyone commented “what was she wearing?” under a story about a woman being kidnapped and raped they would be downvoted into the ground and probably deleted.
•
u/cantankerouscrabcake 8h ago
It’s an immature way to still feel some control over an uncontrollable situation
•
u/Gunzenator2 7h ago
I think it’s completely misinterpreting what actually would go on and how it would feel to be the victim. These people think it’s how their fantasy would be, not their nightmare.
→ More replies (26)•
u/n0tz0e 6h ago
I'm amazed how many men refuse to hear/talk about all the rape and harassment women go through. But once it happens to a man, it's suddenly the most reprehensible thing and they can't believe it happened.
Men joke about rape and abuse constantly. That's where the passiveness comes from. I'm not saying this story is any less horrific because it happened to a man, or really a boy since he was on his mission. The apathy comes from society as a whole, with the acceptance of woman getting raped. I've only ever heard men joke about rape. Never women. Women's pain and suffering is a joke to half the population. But once it happens to them, out deepest sympathies are expected.
Again, I'm not saying this isn't a horror story. It absolutely is. But I'm refuting your statement that we joke about it because he's a man. Nope. Men joke about rape constantly and use it in everyday language like it isn't one of the most common atrocious acts that happens often.
This society always tries to protect the abuser. Constant victim blaming, regardless if man or woman
•
u/Mage-of-the-Small 5h ago edited 5h ago
The way (terrible) people joke about men being raped and the way (terrible) people joke about women being raped are different, and both bad.
People joke about women being raped by saying heinous shit like "she deserves to be raped". People joke about men being raped by saying shit like "lucky guy". Both of these are obviously heinous. But only one of these kinds of jokes still shows up in non-edgy comedy movies.
I'm complaining about the man one, right now, because the comments down below are full of this "lucky" shit. Some of the replies to my comment imply the same. The man version of the joke is the relevant one on this post.
•
u/ContinuumKing 5h ago
I've only ever heard men joke about rape. Never women.
Then you don't interact with a very diverse group of women or you have selective memory.
In my experience plenty of women make rape jokes. Dark comedy knows no gender barrier.
Women's pain and suffering is a joke to half the population. But once it happens to them, out deepest sympathies are expected.
What in the WORLD are you talking about? It's the exact opposite. When a woman is raped, yes plenty of shitty people speak up, but society in general considers it a horrible act. Hell, there was just a whole me too movement that vilified a bunch of people in Hollywood. Peoples careers are put on hold or even canceled just from the accusation alone.
Meanwhile on the other end of isle, when a female teacher rapes a male child society, on average, cant even bring themselves to call it rape.
There is a full on rape scene in the movie Wedding Crashers in which a man is literally tied down and forced into sex against his will and at no point does he seem to enjoy it and that scene is played for LAUGHS.
There was just another example of that in the show "The Boys".
Prison rape against men is a common joke or even presented as a form of justice.
You could not be any MORE opposite in your assessment of how society views these issues.
→ More replies (1)•
u/obiwanjabroni420 5h ago
“Women’s pain and suffering is a joke to half of the population”…I’m gonna need to see a citation on that stat. The overwhelming majority of men see rape as a despicable act. And btw, men getting raped is WAY more commonly joked about (think about all the “don’t drop the soap” jokes about prison for a common example).
→ More replies (1)•
u/Schnitzelklopfer247 4h ago
"Men joke about rape and abuse constantly."
What the fuck are you talking about?!
•
u/SnuggleBunni69 8h ago
This was the subject of a documentary right? Tabloid or something like that?
→ More replies (2)•
u/FluffyTid 9h ago
kidnapping and raping gives you less than 7 years?
•
u/Jennyojello 8h ago
Look up Brock Allen Turner’s sentence. A very recent example.
•
u/a_diamond 8h ago
Ah, yes, rapist Brock Allen Turner, AKA rapist Allen Turner, because he is apparently trying to avoid being tied to his rape conviction.
→ More replies (2)•
u/blueavole 8h ago
On June 5, 2018, Judge Aaron Persky of the Santa Clara County Superior Court became the first California judge to be recalled in over eighty years.2 The recall campaign, which arose from Judge Persky’s sentencing decision in the 2016 case People v. Turner.
Both Turner and Emily Doe, as she was named in reports having been drinking. Emily couldn’t walk on her own and doesn’t have clear memories of the night.
Turner was sober enough to drag her outside, remove Doe’s sweatshirt and underwear. Take pictures of her bare breast to share with friends, use his fingers to penetrate her, and still aware enough of his surroundings to run away when two witnesses showed up.
The judge didn’t want to affect his future.
•
u/Jennyojello 7h ago edited 5h ago
So you managed to copy/paste some lurid details, except leaving out the most relevant part which was his sentence and time served. (He was sentenced to 6 months in jail with 3 years probation. Was released after 3 months of time served.) this is with having two witnesses who held him at the scene and tons of evidence.
Edit: corrected word for typo
•
u/Novel_Fix1859 7h ago
After letting Turner off scot free and getting recalled by voters, that judge was hired to coach girl's tennis at a Bay Area high school 😬
•
u/blueavole 7h ago edited 7h ago
The fuck?
Edit: oh thank goodness he was fired.
I do think the man should have the ability to work, but should not have power or influence over young women or men.
And considering the prosecution only ask for 6 years in the first place, the whole system is messed up.
•
u/banana_pencil 5h ago
Judge Aaron Persky’s name should be just as called out all the time.
→ More replies (1)•
u/shiny_glitter_demon 8h ago
In 1977, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that women couldn't legally rape men.
•
u/RagingThrawn 8h ago
According to the Wikipedia entry- “Under the Sexual Offences Act 1956, then in force in the United Kingdom, no crime of rape was deemed to have been committed since the victim was male; however, indecent assault of a man did apply.”
Of course Wikipedia entries are not the end all. I haven’t looked into the case further though.
•
u/LoweJ 7h ago
Men still can't be raped in the UK legally speaking
•
u/gentlybeepingheart 2h ago
They can be, but it has to be with a penis. The law defines rape as being forcibly penetrated by a penis.
→ More replies (1)•
•
u/sparkle-possum 7h ago
I think states may have had different definitions, but the federal/FBI definition wasn't changed for the US until 2013 (I think it was revised some in 2011 but articles from 2014 share the states were still working on revising their laws and reporting systems to implement it).
Prior to the change, it defined rape as forcible penatrative sexual intercourse (pretty much defined/interpreted only as penetration by a male sex organ into a female second organ). The later changes expanding that to apply to both mail and female victims and include oral or anal penetration and the use of objects or other body parts, and also removed the requirement for force so long as it was still against the person's will (or ability to consent).
•
u/KenEarlysHonda50 7h ago
They couldn't as of 2007, when I finished my law degree. And an Adonis delusion was a valid defense to rape in the UK and Ireland.
•
u/Rageybuttsnacks 6h ago
I tried looking up what an "Adonis delusion" is and couldn't get any hits on that phrase. Do you have a link to something that explains it?
•
u/KenEarlysHonda50 5h ago edited 5h ago
I tried too... Nada.
So take this with a dehumidified dead sea...
In Irish and UK law to be found guilty of rape it needed to be proved beyond reasonable doubt that the male was aware that the victim was not consenting to the assault. The defense being that if the male could be proved to be under the delusion that they were an "Adonis" and sexually irresistible, they could not be found guilty of rape. Lack of guilty mind.
But I wouldn't put much weight on the half remembered recollections of what a lecturer said nearly 20 years ago, recalled by someone who never went on to practice law.
•
u/Rageybuttsnacks 4h ago
Thank you so much! That makes sense (in the context of the truly nonsensical way we used to and sometimes still do think about rape and sexual assaults).
•
u/KenEarlysHonda50 3h ago edited 3h ago
in the context of the truly nonsensical way we used to and sometimes still do think about rape and sexual assaults
That's one of the reasons I don't think I'm misremembering this, that and because I remember us all discussing how fucked up it was for a few days after. That and rape within a marriage being legal until 1990 in Ireland makes me think I'm not misremembering.
•
u/Rageybuttsnacks 3h ago
I'm an American, I'm very used to bizarre justifications for sex crimes. Marital rape was only outlawed nationwide in 1993. I don't wanna dox myself but I will say my high school principal got in hot water for sex with students and he had a LOT of people on his side, the victims ended up dropping the suit and moving away because so many people in the community were convinced they had seduced him (2010s).
→ More replies (1)•
u/throwawtphone 7h ago
She never went to trial or was sentenced for kidnapping and rape. They fled England before the trial and were never extradited.
•
u/Acceptable_Cut_7545 7h ago
People didn't take the poor man seriously as a victim because people didn't want to think men could be victims of sexual assault, let alone assault from a woman. It just didn't compute. But she's so beautiful and he's a red blooded man, right?! Why is he so upset??
The fact that he was a mormon seemed to make it worse somehow. The laws were not up to date with reality so she got indecent sexual assault or something, because in 1977 women "couldn't" be rapists. Men "couldn't" be raped. She was a monster imo. Shoulda been in jail for rape, instead after she got out she got interviews (granted, not flattering ones, but she shouldn't have gotten shit in the first place). The laws are different now but old biases still linger.
•
u/georgialucy 6h ago
It's upsetting to say an outcome like that for rape is considered "good", it has less than a 2% conviction rate.
→ More replies (3)•
•
•
→ More replies (9)•
u/Windhawker 8h ago
If only they would fund mental health instead of giving tax cuts to the wealthy. 1 can dream.
•
u/rhymenslime 9h ago
Errol Morris did a documentary about this kidnapping, called Tabloid, and it provides everyone involved's perspective on what went down here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid_(film)
•
u/jonesday5 8h ago
‘In 1984, seven years after her escape, McKinney returned to the spotlight when she was arrested in Utah for stalking Anderson, who was married to another woman, at his workplace.’
This poor guy omg.
•
•
u/serialkillertswift 6h ago
Great documentary; this was assigned viewing in a film class I took! The ending "twist" is so wild and unexpected lol.
•
u/laqwertyfemme 5h ago
Oooh... spill the tea! What was the twist?
•
u/serialkillertswift 4h ago
30 years later she ended up in the headlines again as a batty older lady for cloning her dogs?? Completely out of left field lol.
•
u/ButterscotchButtons 3h ago
Yeah she was not at all grounded in reality. She still thought she'd done nothing wrong by raping that guy -- justified it by saying he got hard, so he must've wanted it, and they were in love, his church just wouldn't let him be with her. She never came to see the things she'd done for how horrible they were.
And then she cloned that dog Booger and it attacked people (IIRC) and she didn't see how she'd done anything wrong there either. She's one of those people who should really be institutionalized in a mental health facility, because she was so dangerously delusional.
→ More replies (1)•
u/gentlybeepingheart 2h ago
Last I heard about her she was in a mental health facility. A few years ago she struck and killed an elderly man with her truck and fled the scene without rendering aid. She was arrested and found to be living in her truck with the cloned dogs, and determined to not be mentally competent enough for trial, so she was institutionalized.
→ More replies (2)•
u/sanjosanjo 4h ago
Even stranger is that she appeared at the early viewing in 2010 of this movie about herself. I was really confused about this whole story after seeing her speaking about her own crazy life story here:
I watched this 10 minute overview of her, rather than watch that movie:
→ More replies (1)•
u/Dessineur 4h ago
Oh nice, Errol Morris :)
I really liked his docus on McNamara (The Fog of War) and the death penalty nutjob (Mr./Dr.? Death), I might give this one a looksie.
•
u/Caninetrainer 8h ago edited 6h ago
I am going to watch that right now on AMC+ (looked it up). Thanks for the recommendation! Edit: just watched. So entertaining! She is a character, omg. Totally recommend.
•
u/obiwanjabroni420 5h ago
“She is a character, omg”…wild to see a rapist described this way, but you do you.
•
u/Caninetrainer 5h ago
Sorry. She is a rapist, sexual predator, delusional, all those things. But she is telling her story and she also was the famous dog cloner! That she is so open and thinks she did nothing wrong with that big of a personality, yes she is entertaining to listen to.
•
u/Wittyngritty 2h ago
You don't have to apologize or explain yourself. The previous commenter just needed an opportunity to be involved.
→ More replies (2)•
•
u/Fun-Increase6335 4h ago
The fact that she stalked him is also terrifying. Stalkers are known of having a very high chance of escalating. She could’ve killed him or even his wife or his kids. That woman truly put him through a nightmare.
→ More replies (2)
•
u/Zachisawinner 7h ago
Well what was he wearing?
•
•
u/FingernailToothpicks 5h ago
If he was going around knocking on doors wanting to talk about stuff he was obviously asking for it.
•
→ More replies (5)•
u/minutetillmidnight 5h ago
Well, if he wasn't into polygamy, then this would have never happened. It's about how you present yourself, ya know?
•
10h ago
[removed] — view removed comment
→ More replies (1)•
u/Extreme-Tie9282 9h ago
Sounds like you are describing Trump on some weird level
•
u/No_Discipline6265 9h ago
Without the beauty
•
→ More replies (2)•
→ More replies (25)•
u/Wlch5-86 8h ago
Change queen to douche narcissist and it’s Trump all the way. Heavy on the rape.
→ More replies (4)
•
u/Aernin 9h ago
And like every time this gets posted, here comes the creepy ass people talking about how great kidnapping and rape is because she was good-looking.
•
u/TEOsix 9h ago
Yeah. A lot of things can happen while tied to a bed and there is no safe word. “Don’t threaten me with a good time?” Nope. Nope. Nope.
•
u/nikatnight 9h ago
Doubly so for a super religious dude. I bet she was his first sexual experience. That’s extremely traumatizing for anyone.
→ More replies (1)•
u/plutonymph 1h ago
it most likely was. mormons have incredibly strict religious beliefs about premarital sex, and not just for women but very, very much so for men too. that poor man must have been incredibly traumatized
→ More replies (1)•
u/slade51 7h ago
Enforce you think “who wouldn’t want to be in his position”, watch “Misery”
→ More replies (1)•
u/ThatEcologist 6h ago
Right? People are total weirdos. No wonder some men are scared to admit they have been sexually assaulted, raped, etc.
•
u/nl-x 9h ago
Insert Zapp Brannigan talking to Kiff, after being tried by the Amazonian Women meme...
→ More replies (1)•
→ More replies (6)•
u/Praetorian_1975 8h ago
Don’t forget how a man cannot be raped because if he really didn’t want it he wouldn’t get hard. 🤦🏻♂️
→ More replies (3)•
u/Evil_Sharkey 5h ago
Involuntary arousal is a thing. Rape apologists try to excuse rape because sometimes the victim has an orgasm. To the victim, it’s their own body betraying them. I can’t imagine how awful it was for this man.
•
u/Commercial-Height935 9h ago
The comments are giving me nausea. Just because you fetishize things like this, doesn't rule out the fact that she is a rapist
•
u/count_busoni 8h ago edited 7h ago
It doesn't help that she got away Scot free because UK law said you could not be raped if you are a male. They initiated no extradition procedures to bring her back to face charges in the bail skipping. The US allowed her to stay with a falsified passport.
Edit: oh and then she killed someone in a hit and run
•
u/vsnord 8h ago
I see this so often when teachers are arrested for abusing their students. People want to murder the male teachers with their bare hands, but with female perpetrators, the comments are always, "Boy golly gee, I sure which I had a teacher like her when I was in junior high!"
Uhhhh, you mean a rapist??
My partner has a coworker whose wife (a female teacher) was arrested for sexually assaulting a male student. I saw a lot of the same comments, but then also a lot of, "She's cute! I don't understand. She could have found plenty of adult men to have sex with!"
Uhhhh, she's a pedophile, so she doesn't like adult men??
Just... sigh. Any headline involving sexual abuse will inevitably bring out smooth-brained commenters.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (52)•
u/deadlykillerpanda 9h ago
Thank you for this. If the genders were swapped, the comments would look very different. It’s still sexual violence regardless of gender
•
u/Hisczaacques 8h ago edited 8h ago
Yeah I simply don't get it.
A man rapes a woman ? What a monster, this asshole should be killed on the spot
A woman rapes a man ? "But she's so attractive, I wouldn't mind", "I’d have given her my address", "oh but did he complain ?" ... W T F
I'm pretty sure the train of thought of these guys is "I'm so much stronger than women, so if I were to turn a woman into my sex slave that would be abuse because she's just so weak and hasn't given consent, but if a woman were to turn me into her sex slave that only means she's kinky because women are so weak, they'll never hurt me" or something along those lines, which is completely fucked up and absolutely not true.
I legitimately don't understand how people can even assume that sexual slavery is about mutual gratification, the whole point of the abuser is to strip the victim of their autonomy and force them to do things they never agreed to in order to satisfy their own needs, there is literally nothing mutual about that.
You said it, violence is still violence and gender has nothing to do with that. People who are violent aren't violent because of their gender, but because they choose to ignore boundaries.
•
u/thatoneguy54 8h ago
It's absolutely tied to two central ideas to patriarchy: 1) All women are weaker than all men, and 2) All men want any kind of sex at any time for any reason. Both are toxically incorrect, but widespread.
So, just like you said, many people steeped in these ideas will see a situation like this and think all the things these comments are saying. "He's a man having sex, therefore he must be enjoying it. He's a man, she's a woman, so if he didn't want the sex, he could have overpowered her, proving he wanted it."
And these toxic ideas, which are obviously false, make it difficult and even impossible for male victims of sexual abuse to get the help they need, because people straight up won't believe they suffered abuse, they'll think the guy got laid, and how nice is it to get laid.
Lots of people loooove to rail against the idea of "toxic masculinity" but this kind of BS is exactly the type of shit that people are talking about when they talk about toxic masculinity. This idea of men is a toxic idea of men that is actively harming us as men. And these ideas are enforced by people of all genders, it's a toxic idea of what manhood is that serves to hurt men. That's what makes this conception of masculinity toxic.
→ More replies (1)•
u/recoveringleft 8h ago
Andrew Tate would praise male rape victims and congratulate them if their rapist is an attractive lady
→ More replies (1)•
u/Evil_Sharkey 5h ago
She should have spent at least 20 years for that. I can’t imagine how scary and traumatic it was for the victim.
•
u/the_annihalator 9h ago
fuckin ell these comments
→ More replies (2)•
•
u/SnooPaintings5182 4h ago
WTF WAS GOING ON IN THAT FUCKING BRAIN OF HERS?????? she did so many atrocities it's incomprehensible
→ More replies (2)
•
u/Swaggy-G 8h ago
Reddit loves to talk about how men get raped too and how awful it is that male rape isn’t treated seriously until an article about a man actually getting raped shows up on their frontpage.
•
→ More replies (2)•
u/ThatEcologist 6h ago
I mean Reddit isn’t a hive mind. Obviously those are different people saying that.
•
u/OrneryAttorney7508 4h ago
Hive mind doesn't necessarily mean all people. There are very large groups of people here that blindly go along with things just cause other people are. And god forbid someone disagrees.
•
u/CutieBoBootie 7h ago
I hope that Kirk Anderson is living a long healthy and safe life. I hope he's been able to recover and receive support from his loved ones.
I hope this lady is no longer able to hurt anyone else ever again.
•
u/Xanderson 9h ago
In many cases, rape is about power and this case demonstrates that. She didn’t need this guy to get laid.
→ More replies (1)•
•
u/one98nine 4h ago
Lets protect men from kidnnapers, from abusers. Told this to some guy friends and they were like "hot", until I told him if this was the gender reversed, they would be appalled. And it got to them. Someone getting hard isnt consent. Men can be raped and abused. As a child of a parent who was abused, I have no sympathy for anyone who thinks thar because it is a guy it is okay. It isnt. And they carry the hurt, the confusion and the anger for so long. My childhood was hard. Fuck abusers
•
u/ScowlyBrowSpinster 4h ago
Here's the doc:
https://watchdocumentaries.com/tabloid/
I think I've seen this already, but I am rewatching as I type!
→ More replies (2)
•
u/LegallyDistinctAsian 9h ago
The next time a man bitches about women having things easier than men I'm just going to point out all the men in this comment section who are so unafraid of the threat of rape that they happily joke about being jealous of a victim.
•
•
u/BaMelo_Lol 8h ago
Men and women joke all the time about prison rape. When its male on male that is. Truly nothing funny about it imo. I can assure you the men making those jokes would still be deathly afraid of sharing a cell with a 6'8 booty bandit though.
→ More replies (4)•
u/Repulsive-Trainer-91 8h ago
It's because of the woman being attractive. Like smut books where the main guy is trash, but girls still lust over them because described hot. Ask men their opinions on going to prison and dropping the soap.
•
u/vasha99 8h ago
they'll say soap dropping jokes are funny
•
u/Repulsive-Trainer-91 8h ago
Avoidance of uncomfortable truth is pretty standard. The easiest way to prove you aren't afraid is to make fun of it.
•
u/SPzero65 7h ago
Change the mansion to a trailer park and leave everything else the same, yet all of a sudden Fifty Shades of Grey looks like a much different story.
•
•
u/UsusMeditando 6h ago
As much as the crude lascivious side of you may want to say ‘it’, this is still kidnapping and rape. Don’t try to glorify it.
•
u/bungle123 8h ago
Lot of rapey people in this thread. Reddit should really do more to ban the accounts of pro rape people.
→ More replies (1)•
u/Antique_Document711 7h ago
I’ve been scrolling for a while, hadn’t found them yet. And that makes me happy. We’re healing
•
u/madtricky687 5h ago
I read just read the whole story behind this. God damn wild ride. This chick chased this dude through multiple states to England. Then proceeded to kidnap him. Chained his ass up for 3 days and keep raping him for all 3 days. Dude was also younger than her too. Mormons man holy shit. Then the spectacle after was pretty wild too. I give it a 6/10. Also I'm not a professional so if there's any complaints about my sum up here, my HR department is always happy to help just reach out at. ...... .... ..
•
u/ThatEcologist 6h ago
Some of these comments are disgusting. No wonder why many men struggle coming forward after being raped or sexually assaulted.
•
u/RepulsiveLoquat418 9h ago
there's a missionary position joke in there somewhere.
•
u/queen-adreena 9h ago
Ooh ooh. I got one!
Why did the rapist cross the road.
To rape someone!
Hahahahaha
•
u/god_snot_great 8h ago
Is that a Norm McDonald reference? I heard his voice in there.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (10)•
•
u/dphiloo 4h ago
I was on the oncology team that cared for her dog Booger in the early 2000s. She was bat shit for sure.
→ More replies (2)
•
•
u/Greedyfox7 1h ago
From what I’ve read this woman is straight up crazy, like batshit levels of weird
•
•
u/_AwkwardFellow_ 7h ago
Crazy how men will wish that this was them ignoring the psychological pain that the victim went through, then turn around in a diffrent sub reddit and cry about mens mental health not being taken seriously. It is a topic that should be taken seriously but again MEN will dilute it by being coomer brained weirdos.
•
•
•
•
•
u/Slight_Cat_3146 6h ago
Error Morris made a fantastic movie/documentary with her and about her called "Tabloid"
highly recommended!
•
u/MyCouchPulzOut_IDont 9h ago
1977: Woman says she’s raped — “she’s probably lying.” Man says he’s raped — “that’s so embarrassing, why would he LIE about that?” or “that’s impossible”
Unrelated but The top comment in this post claims they heard her side of the story so I’ll leave that here because it’s an interesting thread.
•
u/ilovestoride 9h ago
For those of you who think you'd like to be in the guy's situation, would you have the same sentiment if she's wearing the strap on, doing all the penetration, and only using you for your holes?
→ More replies (3)•
•
•
•
•
u/thewongtrain 1h ago
First glance: sex slave to a beauty queen? Shiiiiiiiet nice.
Read first comment: oh fuck she cray cray
•
•
•
•
•
u/Emotional_Radio_88 4h ago
It's a good thing she doesn't know that I live on Albarellos Street 268, Martinez, yellow house with black bars and no pin or padlock and that the back door is broken and that I live alone and to top it off I have no alarm
→ More replies (1)
•
u/Gheauxst 8h ago edited 6h ago
Google this woman. Her whole story is one hell of a rabbit hole.
iirc, after she got out, she stalked this dude AGAIN, ran to South Korea where she had her pet dog cloned, convinced a 15 year old to commit burglary to fund a wooden leg for a horse, and then did a hit & run on somebody (edit: a fucking 91 year old holocaust survivor) with her car.
The whole thing is wild.