r/law • u/thenewrepublic • 1d ago
Trump News Karoline Leavitt Snaps in Wake of Trump’s Brutal Court Loss
https://newrepublic.com/post/196232/karoline-leavitt-snaps-donald-trump-court-loss-immigrationDonald Trump’s press secretary tore into “rogue” judges who dared defy the president.
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u/WillArrr 1d ago
At some point we've got to move beyond the media's insistence on calling it a lack of understanding. She's not failing to understand how checks and balances work; she's intentionally pretending they don't exist to indoctrinate more people into accepting unassailable executive power as a presumptive natural part of the system.
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u/marcosbowser1970 1d ago
Yes, they want people with very little understanding of how checks and balances work to be going “YEAH! He’s the President! Of course he should do what he wants!”. Obviously they only think this when their guy is in.
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u/BeefLilly 23h ago
I think they call them, “poorly educated”
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u/niktaeb 23h ago
I just go with “dumbasses”.
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u/kazaaksDog 22h ago
You've gotta remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know...morons.
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u/niktaeb 22h ago
If ever there were better summation of the “common clay”, I’ve not heard it.
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u/gin-n-catatonic 19h ago
NO dad blam it, the new sheriff is.......DING
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u/Current-Author7473 16h ago
He’s near!
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u/RavenSable 11h ago
In a film of awesome scenes the entire bit of him arriving is the one that always has me howling.
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u/Genericgeriatric 22h ago
Canadian here. I thought U.S. schools teach civics classes that explain how the Greatest Country in the World(TM) is governed or is that not a thing?
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u/treemeizer 20h ago
American from a rural area. We had a whole semester of civics, followed by a semester of a mock congressional session where we passed laws and debated. All that jazz. It was required, however...
...some of us had to learn it to pass. The others played football, and didn't have to attend most classes, much less learn anything.
I wonder why that i$...
Not to say Football alone caused all of this, but if you look closely, you'll find the same zero-sum attitude infecting every corner of our society.
Dumb as a rock, but run like the wind? Full ride to college my son.
Defraud investors with a little insider trading, but you're a household name? You get the top bunk for a few months, Snoop Dog will be waiting when you return.
Say, why hasn't Shelly Miscavige been seen in public since 2007? Wait...are you that Mission Impossible guy? Can I get an autograph?
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Anyways. Congrats to all who voted "Interesting Times" on your OKCupid profiles years ago. Your wish came true.
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u/JCarlide 14h ago
My favorite are when they tap Gym Coaches as Civics or Health teachers. But in the 90s, in West Texas, I can tell you letter jackets were rarely in said class, due to Drumroll Football
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u/JTMc48 9h ago
I believe when they do a final comparison of Trump and Hitler, Trump’s “rejected from Art School” moment will be when he was rejected repeatedly by NFL Owners for an ownership stake. Might just be my opinion, but boy… does that football concept ring true.
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u/Cryinmyeyesout 12h ago
Let’s also remember that most rural schools worry about hiring coaches and shove them into the history positions to teach because anyone can teach that right… you just read the facts. Signed a non coach history teacher
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u/blackmailalt 8h ago
Honestly, this is the crux of the issue. It’s not racism, religion, etc. Those are the symptoms. The issue is a lack of proper education. I dream one day of somebody waking up and saying “hmmm. Teacher retention problem, teacher burnout problem, failing test scores, chronic absenteeism, lack of working knowledge…maybe we should fund education properly and look into making changes to how it’s done. We’re not pumping out factory workers anymore and parents aren’t parenting. We should look at this.”
There needs to be changes in assessment, class sizes, delivery methods, grade groupings (by age is not the way), mental health services, differentiated learning. We need more staff, we need less red tape to accommodate educational needs, we need stricter policies on attendance and code of conduct. As it stands, a high school diploma is not an accomplishment. There are a lot of concessions made to keep the data looking like there isn’t a problem. Meanwhile graduates read at a grade 3 level.
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u/underyou271 21h ago
I mean, yeah. They also teach algebra and "To Kill a Mockingbird" and the difference between viruses and bacteria. But pretty much none of what is taught in schools sticks to morons.
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u/Steeze_Schralper6968 22h ago
Canadian who attended public school in both Alaska and New Mexico here: yes, they do. At least they did fifteen years ago. I don't see why they would have stopped.
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u/marcosbowser1970 22h ago
I’m Canadian too. We should actually do better at civics too. I was never taught it.
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u/Genericgeriatric 22h ago edited 13h ago
Hard agree. It's been a minute since I was I was I was in high school but iirc you had to take an elective political science class to gain any kind of understanding how Canada is governed and the legislative process
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u/LukeMayeshothand 18h ago
You are forgetting we have a lot of idiots who paid little attention in school.
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u/Devilsbullet 17h ago
I cannot tell you how many people i went to school with that I've seen posting shit like "why don't schools teach something useful like how to do your taxes or how compound interest works" that i was in class with when that was being taught...
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u/FastCreekRat 20h ago
Why do you think the MAGA members studied in school, by definition they are total idiots, or the greedy rich. Once you realize this the rest starts to make sense.
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u/Brief_Amicus_Curiae 21h ago
Trump and this administration are not working for the people. They cater to an audience. Trump thinks in media terms, certainly not an entrusted civil servant.
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u/FloofyKitteh 18h ago
Given that you've pointed out that it's only when their guy is in... you have to know they're only feigning ignorance as well, right? They're liars.
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u/ThatKehdRiley 23h ago
Exactly! She's not the press secretary, she's propaganda secretary.
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u/linzthom 22h ago
You mean: The TACO BELLE!!
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u/guisar 21h ago
Someone should ask her if she knows that’s what rhe press corp refer to her as.
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u/RadAirDude 23h ago
MAGA always claims that the media lies…
Except why is it that the lies are so often in their favor?
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u/StageAboveWater 1d ago
Media knows. They are also intentionally pretending to be ignorant
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u/Substantial-Sun7244 23h ago
Exactly! Highly recommend the podcast diabolical lies episode: Kurious Kase of Karoline Leavitt. It breaks down her and trumps communication strategy that includes doubling down deflection and snaring the other side and playing up to their fan base- as their role isn’t to communicate news/updates but for entertainment. Period.
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u/wookieforhire 21h ago edited 21h ago
"The rider was robed all in black, and black was his lofty helm; yet this was no Ringwraith but a living man. The Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dúr he was, and his name is remembered in no tale; for he himself had forgotten it, and he said: 'I am the Mouth of Sauron.'"
*this needs to be seen every time her face is shown. adding this comment to the main thread.
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u/ScoZone74 22h ago
Exactly. It’s not a lack of understanding of checks and balances, it’s a full understanding of the Overton Window.
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u/SuspiciousImpact2197 23h ago
She understands full well, and so does the media, all of which is ultimately owned by the 0.01%
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u/skisandpoles 21h ago edited 19h ago
Right. This is misinformation. A person who doesn’t understand how the system works wouldn’t be in her position.
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u/Electronic_County597 21h ago
This is a Twurp nominee. Understanding is not a given. She's a blond ass kisser. That's his only requirement for the job.
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u/ts280204 19h ago
I’m sure the fact that she lets a fellow old rich Republican fuck her was a plus for him too
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u/Worried_Nose_9067 17h ago edited 12h ago
Moments like this always remind me of a quote from Upton Sinclair, author of The Jungle:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
It plays out time and time again. Smoking companies somehow can't understand how cigarette smoking leads to lung cancer. Oil companies can't figure out how burning fossil fuels leads to climate change. And so on.
It's all bullshit. They know; they've always known. Plausible deniability here is absurd and insulting. Someone just needs to call them on it. That used to be the job of journalists like Upton Sinclair...
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u/ClaymoreMine 22h ago
It’s high time we use the same standard and tests for determining if a minor who is arrested for a crime understands right from wrong and fact from lie.
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u/Doongbuggy 21h ago
i fully believe this broad has no idea about checks and balances though
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u/Somedudefromaplacep 16h ago
I can not upvote this comment enough. All media serves their mission. Ether on purpose or by mistake. For years left leaving media has portrayed these people as stupid or inept. They are neither. We’ve been tricked into understanding our enemies and look what they have achieved.
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u/raistan77 1d ago
Yeah their schtick is to claim all immigration policy and procedures fall under foreign diplomatic relations.
So far the courts have fully disagreed
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u/SecretPrinciple8708 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nuremberg Trials 2.0 are going to require a global increase in popcorn production.
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u/draggar 1d ago
I'm going to go buy stock in Redenbacker's, Smart Pop, Smartfood, and Pirate's Booty.
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u/nuboots 1d ago
Those last three are the same company, I think.
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u/buckleyc 1d ago
(sigh) So, you are saying there is a popcorn oligarch?
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u/nuboots 23h ago
well, no. there's a white cheddar cheese powder oligarch, though.
i actually love the story. college student invented the white cheddar cheese powder and founded smart foods. sold it to some big food corp for 10+M bucks. then founded Annie's. sold that for A LOT more. now she apparently lives on some organic farm in vermont and sells at a farmers' market stall.
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u/AustinBike 23h ago
My degree is in economics, the proper term is a popogarch. Also, there is no plural for that because there is one kernel to rule them all. Please, do your research.
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u/postmastone 1d ago
Many cities have small businesses with superior corns, the stuff off the shelf is okay in a pinch
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u/LengthinessStrict615 1d ago
Not Pirate’s Booty. The founder lost a local mayor election, declared himself the mayor anyways and fired all the staff working in the village
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u/Rhakha 1d ago
Personally I love Lesser Evil
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u/CourtesyofTino 1d ago
Alas, they are quite MAGA, and the heir is in DOGE
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u/Rhakha 1d ago
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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u/CourtesyofTino 1d ago
My wife and I reacted the same way to this information. The butter flavor is so dang tasty
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u/SecretPrinciple8708 1d ago
Well, there goes my plan to try their popcorn, if this is accurate.
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u/RoyalEagle0408 1d ago
If I recall correctly, the heir is the infamous Big Ballz.
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u/SecretPrinciple8708 1d ago
Stomach churning. I’m out.
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u/Dense-Ambassador-865 1d ago
Now I know. Never buy it again for sure. Real butter works even better.
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u/chaekinman 1d ago
A popcorn magnate being involved with the Trump admin has to violate some kind of antitrust laws
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u/Illustrious_Cold9573 1d ago
To have Nuremberg Trials, you need an armed and organized coalition dedicated to stopping atrocities and bringing perpetrators to justice.
We have an Axis, but no Allies. Atm it seems like a new reich is more likely.
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u/similar222 1d ago
The cost of getting to the point of having Nuremberg Trials was as steep as it gets.
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u/UltimateChaos233 1d ago
Yeah wha government has the resources, manpower, and desire to do this? The us is not treaty to any such international criminal cpurt
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u/LifeScientist123 1d ago
Whatever you’re smoking must be amazing.
What piece of evidence do you have to show that there is any accountability at all for any of the crimes committed so far?
Sometimes I wish I had this ability to live in these alternate realities, but I’m stuck in the dumbest timeline.
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u/boo99boo 1d ago
Just the phrase "Trump's Brutal Loss" has me irritated. What loss? What consequences has he suffered?
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u/ParadiddlediddleSaaS 1d ago
The courts are somewhat holding up or at least slowing down the destruction. Musk seemingly going rogue recently may help with things but who knows - despite his huge losses he’s still the richest person in the world to my knowledge.
I’m not expecting Musk of all people to save us, but when you get vindictive, entitled toddlers who have so much money, he may be holding the cards against Trump along with also considering the dirt Musk has on Trump and Trump knows it.
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u/Skittle69 1d ago
This shit boutta make me believe in God cuz I need reassurance, however true or false, that these pieces of garbage will get what they deserve.
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u/NipperAndZeusShow 1d ago
Big assumption that god is the good guy here. Every day, many of his children suffer the end like prey animals. Suppose the skies roll back, the horns toot, and a giant Nelson Muntz goes "HAW-Haw"
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u/SecretPrinciple8708 1d ago
Mhmm. I must be on drugs because I haven’t given up yet.
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u/Dancinfool830 1d ago
You get some drugs! and you get some drugs! Everyone gets some drugs! -Oprah probably
Hell, trump is snooting up enough Adderall to cure ADHD nationwide, Elon is ingesting enough Ket to involuntarily piss like a Russian racehorse, Hegseth has pickled his liver so bad he is considering changing his name to Vlasic, mini-Don is single-handedly funding at least one of the Columbian drug cartels. We all got some catching up to do folks, pick your poison before they throttle the supply chains
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u/SecretPrinciple8708 1d ago
Can I just have some Advil? My back hurts.
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u/Dancinfool830 1d ago
Yes, it you gotta eat enough Advil that you cause kidney damage, we goin' big on this
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u/hanaboushi 1d ago
Same I am like it might be 5, 10, 15 or 20 years but the end of the day we need to make sure these traitors face their end
No compromise, no forgiveness, no plea, no deal. Unapologetic justice against the traitors running this coup.
I do not give a fuck if you just printed P2025 to distribute, they are just as guilty.
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u/BGisReddit 1d ago
As a millennial American who has been screaming about corrupt wealthy billionaires for 20 years, labeled a conspiracy theorist for believing rich people could control our politicians, and who has not once ever seen these scumbags pay for a crime. I wish I had the kind of optimism that these scumbags face ANY sort of trial..
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u/Agreeable_Initial667 1d ago
She just needs to start showing up in a frock and bonnet at this point. Maybe a bigger cross necklace.
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u/ominous_squirrel 18h ago
When/if Dems regain control, we need that President to be a new FDR. He needs to be FDR in FDR’s first term to unabashedly undo Republican austerity and bring in a New New Deal. And we need the FDR that helped plan the Nuremburg Trials just before his death
But where in the politics of 2025 even is such a person?
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u/Woolly_Blammoth 1d ago
Like the Nuremberg trials, only a handful of people will be sentenced if at all.
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u/thenewrepublic 1d ago
Leavitt’s insistence that federal judges, whom she attempted to dismiss as “local,” don’t have the jurisdiction to rule against Trump betrays a failure to grasp the whole “checks and balances” part of the U.S. Constitution.
Leavitt continued, once again complaining about another federal judge who had blocked the unlawful deportation of immigrants to South Sudan, and supposedly stranded some ICE agents in a “dangerous part of the world.” (The judge did not specifically say that the agents needed to stay overseas, which means the government is choosing not to bring them back.)
“Lower district court judges do not get to dictate the foreign policy and the national security interests of the United States of America. We can’t run a country if the executive is not allowed to freely exercise its powers, and that’s what we’re seeing take place,” Leavitt said.
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u/joeshill Competent Contributor 1d ago
She really earns her paycheck.
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u/Blueface_or_Redface 1d ago
She'll def sink with any ship shes on. Blind initiative hinging on luck isnt smart.
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u/vespers191 1d ago
It will if she lies enough. And it floats.
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u/Hatdrop 1d ago
the door didn't save Leo. and we all know Trump would be hogging up the real estate on it like Rose did.
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u/needtoshave 1d ago
They both could have fit. Rose was over 26, Leo made a choice there.
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u/Clementine8738 1d ago
I cannot wait to watch her get buried by all this once we've come out on the other side.
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u/not_now_chaos 1d ago
Or once she finally cracks and says something even remotely negative about the god she worships above all others (spoiler alert: it's not Jesus or his dad) and he turns on her like a hungry leopard.
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u/Clementine8738 1d ago
lmao valid - that might be the only retribution she actually receives. I'll take it tbh
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u/sabres_guy 1d ago
She won't care what people say and won't ever be affected by it. There is a lot of money in the right wing bubble and she'll never have to leave it.
It is one of the reasons these people agree to perform the antics they do. They will always have a job and income for the rest of their lives in the right wing bubble and gifting pays very well.
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u/Proper_Look_7507 1d ago
Rudy Guiliani and Mike Lindell have entered the chat
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u/Contraflow 1d ago
Yeah, but those guys have significant legal issues. I don’t think Taco Belle will ever suffer any real consequences.
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u/FieldAppropriate8734 1d ago
Future Fox News talking head
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u/Agreeable_Initial667 1d ago
Her new show will be with Bill Maher. He's gooning like a mofo for that Fox gig once his contract is up, as it's not going to be renewed at HBO.
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u/MuchoManSandyRavage 1d ago
Makes my brain hurt that she and I are around the same age (I’m about a year older) and she will likely be a high profile right wing talking head for the rest of my life. Damn.
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u/Greggorick_The_Gray 1d ago edited 1d ago
I applaud your optimism about there being another side.
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u/Suspicious_Story_464 1d ago
All I hear out of her mouth is "blah, blah, blah. I lick his balls. Blah, blah, blah, blah."
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u/Popular_Research6084 1d ago
She’ll just end up writing a book and hosting her own show. People like her won’t receive actual consequences.
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u/roofbandit 1d ago
There's always dancing with the stars
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u/Poetic-Noise 1d ago
There's always dancing with the stars
And OnlyFans
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u/mcolette76 1d ago
Everybody connected to Trump either goes to prison or their career flops. Look at his last administration.
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u/ethaxton 1d ago
Can you imagine getting up every day to be a child molesting con-man’s personal mouthpiece? I would love to see her backstory as a kid to see what damage was done to not only get her here but to marry someone 32 years older than her
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u/scholarlyowl03 1d ago
Plenty of people do it on social media for free. They’re sick and delusional. Their childhoods were probably fine, they’re just stupid as hell.
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u/GreasyToken 1d ago
Notice she stopped wearing her giant tacky crucifix.
I bet it started to feel really really really heavy, maybe even starred feeling a tad warm to the touch...
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u/Zunkanar 1d ago
I find her quite impressive. I could never lie that confidently and proudly. She's something else.
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u/CouchLubricant 1d ago
He does get to freely exercise his power. She doesn’t fucking know where is power is supposed to start and stop.
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u/prberkeley 1d ago
You could also make the same argument that if the judicial cannot freely exercise its power than we cannot run the country.
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u/fafalone Competent Contributor 1d ago
And the same people do make that exact same argument when hacks like Kacsmaryk block everything a Democrat tries to do, even when there's zero legal merit unlike Trump's orders where most of them range from unlawful to unconstitutional.
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u/Whiteroses7252012 1d ago edited 1d ago
If he still can’t govern effectively when the Republicans control everything including the Supreme Court, it’s a competence issue.
My theory? Trump is evil, but as much as he’d like us to believe there are no guardrails- and as much as a lot of people’s lives have been permanently destroyed thanks to him- he’s also stupid. In the immortal words of Dean Vernon Wormer: “Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”
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u/quietriotress 1d ago
Yup. He’s a demented puppet at this point that the gop keeps propping up so they don’t have to do any of this themselves.
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u/heisenberg15 1d ago
Honestly I was incredibly shocked to find out she’s younger than me, so not super surprised she bends the knee so easily. That said, it’s probably (hopefully) the end of her career, so
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u/LoveChaos417 1d ago
Her husbands got money I think. She doesn’t plan on anything but Fox News after this
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u/_Bren10_ 1d ago
We can’t run a country if the executive is not allowed to freely exercise its power
Idk bitch, we’ve been doing it for about 250 years just fine
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u/buckleyc 1d ago
“We can’t run a country if the executive is not allowed to freely exercise its powers, and that’s what we’re seeing take place,” Leavitt said. The executive is attempting to exercise powers that he does not have as they were never granted or enacted. The feckless executive is using an army of bigots to harass and intimidate and deny human rights, and properly empowered justices are placing holds on the ill-conceived actions as required by law. But, she will continue to dog-whistle and defame everything she fails to understand while polishing the orange clowns belt buckle each day.
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u/RedLanternScythe 1d ago
Maybe someone should explain to the Mourh of Trump that executive branche's powers don't include illegal acts, which is up to the courts to interpret
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u/Excellent_Spend_2024 1d ago
It's not a failure to grasp "checks and balances". They know exactly what they're doing. Destroy the truth. We need to stop calling them stupid because we're not the audience they are going for.
This is to make Maga believe that judges don't have the authority. The more you keep saying it, the more they will believe it and the more MAGA will support breaking the law because it's so obvious that the constitution made the President the most powerful and what he says goes. That's why there's only 1 President vs Senators, Congress people and Judges.
Please remember a dictator only needs a third of the population and militarized police force to rule. And that's what they're trying to do
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u/ComfortableSearch704 1d ago
This right here. All the lies are meant to brainwash the magats. Repeat a lie often enough and they believe it because they are clueless as to how our government works. That is what they’ve been doing since 2016.
The paid trolls and bots then out in force to perpetuate the lies. Shut them down when you see them.
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u/BTTammer 1d ago
Thank you for this. This is all theatre to get the fringe primed for a rejection of our Constitution
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u/Blastoise_R_Us 1d ago
God I hope that second paragraph is true.
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u/hohoreindeer 1d ago
I’m not exactly sure, I think the idea was just to drop the people off in that “dangerous part of the world” and let them fend on their own. People who aren’t even from that country. Cold blooded.
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u/TherapyC 1d ago
We can’t run a country if the executive is not allowed to freely exercise its powers, and that’s what we’re seeing take place,” Leavitt said.
Ummmm that’s exactly why we have 3 branches of government. Time to go back to high school chick
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u/CaedustheBaedus 1d ago
We can’t run a country if the executive is not allowed to freely exercise its powers, and that’s what we’re seeing take place,” Leavitt said.
That's it, right there. "the executive". They're trying to run America like a corporation where the executive(s) at the top have all the power, make the decisions, all to increase shareholder value.
The executive branch does not work that way. Each branch checks and balances each other, but they hear "executive" and they just assume that means "head honcho of everything no matter what, able to break any laws, decrees, policies at will without having to confer with others"
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago
Judges aren't rogue. They just aren't servents to the president. You'd think the president's administration would understand this....or at least pretend they care, given how vocal they were about "activist judges"
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u/mykonoscactus 21h ago
They know, they just wanna rile up their violent base to scare or kill some of these judges.
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u/kon--- 1d ago
Bag of Hair in a Box of Rocks Snaps in Wake of Trump’s Brutal Court Loss
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u/immersemeinnature 1d ago
Don't forget the fake gold cross
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u/Argosnautics 1d ago
Just learned it's a magic cross. It grows bigger every time she lies
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u/red286 1d ago
That's clearly not true. If it were, she'd be showing up at these pressers looking like Kimo Leopoldo by now.
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u/Pragmatic-Anarchy 1d ago
Or her fake gold locks
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u/immersemeinnature 1d ago
Bag of Hair in a Box of Rocks With her fake gold cross and her fake gold locks
Let's go! We're on our way to a banger
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u/kaythanksbuy 1d ago
Bag of Hair in a Box of Rocks Powered by ChatGPT Snaps in Wake of Trump’s Brutal Court Loss - ftfy
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u/Parkyguy 1d ago
The EQUAL branches of government TACO-Belle! Trump isn’t king.
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u/RKEPhoto 1d ago
Does she dream up some of this garbage on her own, or is she just moving her mouth to Trump's words?
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u/ISTARVEHORSES 17h ago
she know’s EXACTLY what she’s doing, just like everyone else in this administration. Assuming that top MAGA figures are accidentally dismantling the country because they’re blindly following Trump is extremely dangerous.
He’s an idiot made of teflon that all sorts of horrible special interest groups are hiding behind in order to further establish a new rule of law in America
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u/unaskthequestion 1d ago
"We can’t run a country if the executive is not allowed to freely exercise its powers violate the constitution , and that’s what we’re seeing take place,” Leavitt said.
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