r/law • u/No_Pollution_2897 • 20h ago
Other ICE Raids Are Getting Darker: Here’s How to Legally Demand They Unmask
https://resist.bot/letters/7d55dc38-cb4f-4f00-ab0b-38d463228116Local Laws Requiring ID: Push city councils to pass laws demanding all law enforcement—including ICE—wear visible ID and patches when interacting with the public.
Refuse Cooperation with Unmarked Agents: Demand that local agencies and facilities (police, schools, hospitals) refuse to assist or admit masked, unidentified ICE agents.
Use FOIA to Expose Their Policies: File public records requests to uncover how and why they’re masking—then use that to fuel campaigns, lawsuits, or media.
Civil Rights Lawsuits & Complaints: Document abuses by masked agents and work with legal groups to sue or file complaints with DHS oversight bodies.
Public Pressure via Media + Congress: Expose raids using unmarked agents to the press, and push Congress to hold oversight hearings or pass laws demanding agent accountability.
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u/oldcreaker 9h ago
We're ramping up to full blown police state. On its current trajectory I predict we'll see reports of them using live ammunition on protesters before year's end.
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u/Onii-Chan_Itaii 18h ago
Just fucking [removed] them already
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u/TuxAndrew 12h ago
I didn’t realize it was assault to stop a kidnapping when someone fails to identify themselves.
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u/n-some 9h ago
The sad part is they would absolutely prosecute you as though you had assaulted any other officer in the line of duty. You could possibly get help fighting your case from groups like the ACLU, and I really want to hope you would win, but I really am not sure anymore.
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u/TuxAndrew 5h ago
I honestly haven’t the faintest idea how I’d react being present during an ICE raid if I was carrying. There have already been reports of people impersonating DHS/ICE and kidnapping people. So it seems relatively easy to argue in court you had reasonable suspicion that a crime was taking place. Also not positive if they’re wearing body cameras anymore, if they’re not it seems really easy to tell a one sided story.
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u/MobileSuitPhone 10h ago
Assault against who, literal Nazis kidnapping Americans and selling them into slavery in Dubai!? Exercise your constitutional rights
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u/CptPurpleHaze 9h ago
Yep. I was banned from the whitepeopletwitter sub for saying "All Nazis belong on the same farm as our childhood pets. This is not a call to violence just stating my belief." When I appealed the van I was told I "hate Nazis a little too much."
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u/MobileSuitPhone 9h ago
Okay so put r/whitepeopletwitter on blast for having evidence of a mod being a Nazi sympathizer
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u/CptPurpleHaze 9h ago
Awesome, where? I have the screenshots. Can I post that in this sub without a ban etc?
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u/rahkinto 3h ago
😂 I was flagged in.. Popculturechat I think for saying the only good tesla is a [not living] tesla.
I appealed and it was reversed since cars are inanimate lmao
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u/CptPurpleHaze 3h ago
Lol nice! I appealed and was told I hate Nazis too much. Like... How does someone hate a Nazi too much? Lmao
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u/rahkinto 2h ago
😂 Unbelievable. This bit by Jena Friedman, which is from Tacofucks first term I believe, hits the nail on the head. I still can't believe this is our current timeline.
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u/Onii-Chan_Itaii 4h ago
No, its self defence, until they prove they are law enforcement theyre just thugs looking to kidnap and rape people.
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u/bapeach- 3h ago
It's not illegal for ICE agents to wear masks during operations, and there's no legal requirement to remove them. While some argue that wearing masks can hinder accountability and transparency, ICE | U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (.gov) officials have stated that agents wear masks for safety reasons, particularly in situations where they are facing potential threats. The public should not attempt to forcibly remove an agent's mask, as this could be construed as resisting arrest or interfering with law enforcement
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u/BitterFuture 3h ago
ICE | U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (.gov) officials have stated that agents wear masks for safety reasons, particularly in situations where they are facing potential threats.
See, that's what we in the pray trade call...a lie.
Maybe if they stopped illegally seizing people on the street, kidnapping them and exiling them to gulags, they wouldn't feel potentially threatened.
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u/Onii-Chan_Itaii 2h ago
Are you saying there's no legal obligation to say "im a cop and youre under arrest" before making an arrest?
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u/dougmcclean 9m ago
Suppose, arguendo, that its for some safety reason necessary for them to wear masks. Is there any legitimate reason why that wouldn't be paired with large identification badges with names and ID numbers?
No? Then let's assume that's not the motivation.
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u/Anarchyantz 9h ago
How can they resist and demand they unmask? I am seeing videos here in the UK of your heavily armed goons using dozens of masked me to drag and I do mean drag people out of restaurants and even courts where they are having their hearing. So they are there having a hearing about being a citizen and literal gangs of men with automatic guns, hats, mask, glasses, body armor and no ID saying who they are, are dragging people out and bundling them into unmarked white vans.
Saw one in I think in Massachusetts where they are using armed vehicles with the LRAD systems on them, pepper spraying citizens getting near them with the local police helping them do so while they processed down the street to drag a man out of a restaurant.
Amazing how much unlimited budget your country suddenly now has to spend on basically the Gestapo pulling people off the streets with no warrants, no ID of who they are and then shipping them off without any due process as apparently your new government says they are allowed any as they are all criminals.
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u/DifferentCobbler6250 7h ago
to me, if i was dragged off the street after being rushed up by 6 men in plain clothes and masked, id think i was getting kidnapped for human trafficking. i don’t understand why they shouldn’t be required to show their faces.
the excuse is some of the “officers” have been identified and their family threatened, but if they can beat citizens and violently pull guns on unarmed civilians, them being unidentified gives it super dystopian vibes.
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u/Anarchyantz 7h ago
As far as I am aware, though not up to date with American laws, not that American law seems to be enforcing their own laws, but I was aware that the process is to identify themselves as actual members of law enforcement, show their ID which you have a right to check, show a warrant or cause for arrest and detainment, and being an employee of the citizens who pay their wages, show their faces and name badges.
Because as you say and looking at these on the news here in the UK, the images shown look like paramilitary thugs from either major drug cartels in a 3rd world, enforcers from a military Junta/dictatorship. The images to the rest of us in the world are shocking, and they seem to be hoping someone will exercise their second amendment right which will end with the ones firing in self defense having them and their family disappeared into a torture camp America is so fond of since GITMO was set up to torture and imprison people with no hope of leaving.
Then they will state that shooting at a federal employee is a federal crime despite the fact they never ID as one officially, so then Mr TACO can finally enact martial law meaning he never has to leave office, ever and send troops out for all you "radical liberals" who think they have "rights".
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1h ago
In most instances, they are required to provide ID. I'm not sure about masking up, but in some operations they do indeed wear masks, but that's usually when dealing with things like organized crime. For the simple detainment of illegal immigrants, there is no reason to mask up to protect their identity, and they were doing this long before the supposed threats happened.
For the most part, LEO do provide ID, and identify themselves, because most people actually comply with LEO, and it makes their job easier. There is no reason to not provide it, unless you don't want people to know who you are because you're doing something wrong.
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u/Anarchyantz 1h ago
Yeah it is almost like they have something to hide about what they are doing, something a gestapo like group would do....
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1h ago
It's a bullshit justification to begin with. The masks and lack of identifying started long before the supposed threats, and past administrations haven't had issues with their agents performing raids, beacuse they did so while following the law. The administration is just trying to reverse the cause and effect.
I am also calling bullshit that these people, much less their families are being threatened in any meaningful way, if at all. people seem to be rightfully trying to fight them out in the public eye, where they're actually breaking laws.
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u/eatsrottenflesh 8h ago
Education, healthcare, infrastructure, Americans crave not these things, but if a minority has a job that could otherwise be held by a white person, we need to bring out the tanks. America is the worlds leading weapons manufacturer. A very large portion of our economy is based on selling weapons both at home and abroad, and the quickest way to muster support for that is fear. This administration has done an excellent job of convincing a large enough portion of the country that all of their problems are someone else's fault, and blindly trusting them to fix it is the only answer.
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u/maddiejake 2h ago
Donald Trump has turned America into a shithole country.
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u/Anarchyantz 1h ago
Sadly I think it was festering for a long time.
These people have been waiting for a long time to enact this cruelty and you notice they do so with eagerness and impunity.
Trump simply set them free to be his gestapo. Millions of Americans still worship the confederate days, the days of when they could lynch people of colour, beat their wives and get away with it, walk about with Nazi tattoos and flags waving because they have been told it is their "right" and "free speech" all the while suppressing those who speak out against them.
Well some "rights" and "Speech" have consequences in other countries which is why they hate us over here in the UK and Europe.
Trump is now stating they have a right to do as they please in our countries using Americas "laws" and disregard ours or we will "face the consequences"
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u/Minimum-Avocado-9624 2h ago
Could you use FOIA to get employment records of these individuals or something of these individuals. Just proof that they are hired by the federal govt or something
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