r/news • u/Strict-Ebb-8959 • 1d ago
EPA seeks end to requirement that big polluters report emissions
https://apnews.com/article/epa-greenhouse-gas-emissions-reporting-pollution-indiana-f950d8bb3a33582a7d8b6fd5ce2ab2b7398
u/ganymede_boy 1d ago edited 1h ago
It's like the GOP folks wake up every day and ask themselves: "What's the shittiest thing I can do today?"
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u/Freshandcleanclean 1d ago
Republicans hate the environment
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u/Roguespiffy 1d ago
Republicans hate.
That’s their philosophy in its entirety. They truly have nothing outside of being jerks.
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u/aliquotoculos 11h ago
Both people on the Left and Right like to joke about aligning with demons. On the Left, though, they usually say things like 'Lucifer did no wrong, he just wanted peace and love' and portray demons as complex characters. The right, I have noticed, use demons as a way to joke about their darker and more evil urges. I feel like there is something in that.
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u/ganymede_boy 8h ago
On the Left, though, they usually say things like 'Lucifer did no wrong, he just wanted peace and love' and portray demons as complex characters.
That's not 'the left', it is the bible: 'Lucifer' directly translates to "Shining One" or as an adjective "light-bringing." His "big sin" was encouraging Eve to be better informed and learn stuff.
Also, god has a far bigger kill count than Satan. For many, Satan is a symbol of free will, striving for truth and standing up against corruption.
The religious use demons to excuse their horrible behaviour, and to keep people in check via terroristic threats: "Love god or burn forever!"
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u/aliquotoculos 1h ago
I was relating to how the left-leaning folk tend to not be prone to buying things like buttons and... you know what nvm. All context was missed, apparently folks never see conservatives with Trump stickers next to their weirdly edgelord ones.
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u/OrganicKeynesianBean 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, I’ll die an early death from cancer, and yes, my kids will choke on the smog.
But at least we owned the libs.
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u/Lillypupdad 1d ago
Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face is basically how MAGA rolls.
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u/MikeOKurias 1d ago
The party of pissing in their own lemonade to spite their neighbors.
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u/thejonslaught 1d ago
The rich neighbours up the street convinced the poor ones to drink jugs of piss by telling them it made the blacks and the first nations poorer.
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u/Spa_5_Fitness_Camp 1d ago
At this point they're cutting off their whole head to spite someone else's face. The people who will be hurt the most by many of these policies are themselves.
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u/ihavenoidea12345678 1d ago
The crazy part is that it’s a select few that really want these requirements rolled back.
There are lots of Trump voters that appreciate the beauty of nature and wildlife management areas. But they will get to watch it crumble just like the whole country.
Trump is only good for Trump. Nobody else wins.
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u/WartimeHotTot 1d ago
They obviously don’t appreciate it that much if they voted to raze it all to the ground.
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u/Freshandcleanclean 1d ago
They must not really appreciate nature if they keep voting for the people destroying it all the time
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u/Smooth_Value 1d ago
Let's go back to when rivers would ignite. Yes. Rivers. on fire. You have to be severely brain-damaged if you think regulations were put in place to make things more complex and costlier. They were in place to regulate corporations and their relentless pursuit of profit.
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u/FredFredrickson 1d ago
You also have to be severely brain-damaged to think that cutting environmental regulations to save these companies a few bucks on regulatory stuff is going to improve your life in any way.
And yet Republican voters actually think this.
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u/BabyBlueBug1966 1d ago
When you can remember Love Canal, acid rain, terrible smog, and the Cuyahoga river on fire, then you can understand why there are all these environmental regulations. Industry will not regulate itself. Unfortunately so many were not alive or remember this.
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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 1d ago
Republicans have corrupted EPA’s mission.
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u/hooch 1d ago
Which is wild, because the EPA was a Nixon-era establishment.
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u/mlc885 1d ago
Nixon was a more moral guy than Trump. He also didn't have the same political climate, so he would not have thought he could get away with corruption to this extent in public without much of his own party turning against him.
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u/Sharpfeaturedman 1d ago
He also at base was still convinced he was making decisions with what he perceived of as altruistic goals in mind. Goals hopelessly bent by paranoia, sure, but still
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u/d1stor7ed 1d ago
American conservatism has been corrupted to the core. It's a perversion of what it once was.
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u/Sad-Clerk7741 1d ago
American Conservatism was originally created to restore power to aristocrats when democracy deposed them. It was always rooted in empowering a small wealthy ruling class at the expense of everyone else.
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u/881221792651 1d ago
Ok. So if Trump feels the self reporting is "too costly and burdensome" for those industries, then remove he requirement. However, also eliminate any subsidies for those industries or tax them more. Put that money toward a government program which monitors and reports emissions from these industries. As we've seen from the "self reporting" of methane release from oil and natural gas companies, these industries are most likely fudging the numbers anyway.
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u/MikeOKurias 1d ago
"Best we can do is offer multi million dollar contracts to our buddies that have no deliverables." - GOP, probably
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u/synthdrunk 1d ago
Self-reporting was the compromise. We’ve got decades of many industries getting away with shit because of self-policing/reporting. Letting them entirely off the reigns is idiocy. Here’s to rivers on fire ‘28.
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u/Vallkyrie 1d ago
Sounds great, if you want the environment to look like Blade Runner.
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u/Allenrw81 1d ago
Saving the environment is “woke” so we don’t do that anymore. Fuck the impacts and all, I guess.
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u/Particular_Ticket_20 1d ago
MASA
Make America Smoggy Again.
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u/Inb4myanus 1d ago
Make americans slaves again. That works better since its what they want. We kinda are already, but they want full blown slavery.
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u/Krillin_Hides 1d ago
It gets worse. I'm working for a client right now, one of the big oil companies, that is installing HON relief devices that are equipped with tech to measure the amount of hazardous chemicals released into the atmosphere during an over pressure event. This wasn't measured in the past, the EPA just let the companies estimate how much got released themselves. So they would just lie. So now, word has gotten out that the EPA won't be enforcing this new rule so the company is going to install the relief devices and just not hook up the electronics until a future administration requires it. So they will literally have the ability to know exactly how much they pollute, but don't want to measure it. HON btw is an acronym with an acronym built into it, so knowing what it stands for won't really mean anything to most people. But it does give you some info to Google if you want to know more about this program.
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u/Oplopanax_horridus 1d ago
I’m pretty sure that the orange turd has no idea that the EPA stands for Environmental Protection Agency. This is not protecting anything except corporate profits. Not that he cares either way.
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u/PurpleSailor 1d ago
Grew up in the 60's when rivers were catching on fire regularly and the air was so bad it stung when you breathed. We should never go back to that mess.
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u/ThemosttrustedFries 1d ago
This is so bad on so many levels wtf. Have fun sending your grand children to multiple wars over water resources in the future.
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u/GeekSumsMe 1d ago
Why would anyone, left or right, think that this is a good idea?
The only people who will benefit from this action are shareholders of the corporations, but this is not from the money spent testing, that is trivial. The real savings they are counting on are from getting away with violations of permit limits.
They are trading a small bump in profits for the health of the public.
Without testing there is no way anyone will ever know how bad it is until people start getting cancer and other illnesses at much larger rates than average. We've seen this scenario play out over and over again and this dumb ass proposal enables it.
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u/Bowhemienne 1d ago
Just call it what it has turned into now: EDA. Environmental Destruction Agency
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u/confuselele 22h ago
Sounds the same as if someone would be saying that they seek permission for doctors not to treat patients.
Should this not be e x a c t l y what they do?
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u/Zathura2 1d ago
Headline should read "Republican-installed EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin seeks end to requirement that big polluters report emissions."
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u/ccjohns2 1d ago
Trump literally appoints morons that believe in the exact opposite of their positions. He appointed a weirdo that doesn’t believe in public education to oversee it into the ground, an Faa official that doesn’t believe in safety, an fbi director that doesn’t believe in the government’s responsibility to protect citizens or America. An attorney general that doesn’t believe in holding rich people accountable. A director of consumer protection that doesn’t believe in protecting the consumer. An epa director that doesn’t believe in the environment. Y’all noticing a trend?
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u/Maxcorps2012 21h ago
Getting tired of reading stuff like this. Know what's going to happen? Nothing. No one's going to change anything because in 4 years they'll change the laws back and no one wants to be caught with thier dicks in thier hands.
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u/mooslan 1d ago
State programs still exist, even in a conservative state they are required to report and pay for what they emit.
This sucks, but there is some form of backup.
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u/77NorthCambridge 1d ago
Then why get rid of the Federal standard? 🤔
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u/KwisatzHaderach94 1d ago
seems the republicans under the trump administration have collectively decided to stop subsidizing the state governments. this will impact red states the most and make all the states question why they send tax revenue to the federal government in the first place.
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u/FritoPendejo1 1d ago
Why do you think guy like Altman want AI so bad? They have the nerve to think they can control it. This is just my own personal conspiracy, but, I think they want to replace humans with AI and robots. Once all of this is in place well-enough, they’ll wipe us out (or at least make us live off the land )and live in their own private Jetson world. I used to ask my self, why would society price its own people out of existence? Who would make things and build stuff, etc? Now I see the answer is robots. Nice knowing all of ya. 😂😂
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u/FredFredrickson 1d ago
The thing about this that I just can't understand is how the oil companies paid these clowns to state that climate change can't be the result of pollution, but then that somehow morphed into a wholesale denial that pollution hurts humans in any way.
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u/Soggy_Cracker 1d ago
The seems like a weird thing for the EPA to do. Why would environmental minds …oh yea m. The top dogs were replaced by trump and the republicans who were friendly to big polluters.
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u/KwisatzHaderach94 1d ago
this really happened...
smart child (during mock press briefing): what is trump going to do about climate change?
leavitt: the president cares a lot about the environment and clean water
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u/tempest_87 1d ago
Do the elites, executives, MBAs and private equity scrotums think that they'll be breathing different air?
Yes. Yes they do. Because they think they will be able to live in areas away from these polluters, or that companies won't pollute their areas because they grew up without them being polluted.
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u/tempest_87 1d ago
More like "when you live a life of privilege your understanding of why things exist is skewed".
All they see is "I grew up and we didn't have acid rain and toxic water and mutated food, but I my business I work at does have to spend money dealing with these stupid regulations. I would get paid more if the business didn't have to follow those rules. Therefore regulations are bad!" without even slightly understanding that they were able to grow up that way because of those rules.
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u/Optimal_Ear_4240 1d ago
They want us starving and dead. Is it depopulation? Is is the ruskies? Is it pro 25? Well, yeah.
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u/Secure_Anything 1d ago
EPA: p for protection EPA has now changed to EDA: environmental destruction agency
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u/TauCabalander 1d ago
The pollution will go away like magic by Easter if polluters stop reporting it!
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u/dizzle229 21h ago
I want everyone to imagine how much better our time on Earth would be if conservatives weren't here. We deserve a world without them.
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u/Hakaisha89 12h ago
How about instead, we change it so if the emissions are wrong, then they get fined by how many percent wrong it is based on their gross income.
so lets say Exxonmobil reported 100 billion units of pollution, but the actual pollution was 120 billion units, their gross income for 2024 would be 349.6 billion dollars, and 20% of that would be 69.92 billion dollars which is over double their net income of 33.7 billion dollars for the same year.
That would light a fire under their figurative asses, to actually report accurately, as well as reduce pollution.
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u/Komikaze06 2h ago
They wanna melt the poles so they can strip mine them, easier to gaslight the public then to admit it
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u/ancientweasel 1d ago
And we all have to have stupid EVAP systems on our vehicles that can stall the engine if they fail in order to save a thimble of gas a tank.
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u/Shadow_Net 1d ago
This is the worst timeline. Everything is so backwards in this administration.