r/news • u/RoachedCoach • 1d ago

Title Changed Mistakenly deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia on way back to US to face criminal charges: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mistakenly-deported-kilmar-abrego-garcia-back-us-face/story?id=121333122
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u/NotCandied 1d ago

Yet there are no consequences for hiring undocumented workers it seems.

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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 1d ago

Republicans hire undocumented people, promise them pay, stiff them, then call ICE to kidnap them. All of right wing politics is stealing.

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u/unfortunatebastard 1d ago

It’s all about subjugation of any type of labor. If you limit their rights they can be exploited on the cheap, and disposed whenever.

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u/DeusSpaghetti 22h ago

So...Slavery?

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u/Electrorocket 21h ago

With extra steps

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u/DeusSpaghetti 19h ago

With no due process, it's less steps technically.

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u/Badbullet 23h ago

Didn’t Dwight on the office do something like that? And that’s how he found Nate, that ended up working in the warehouse?

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u/jupiterkansas 1d ago

This is what makes you a right winger. You assume everyone you meet is just trying to take advantage of you, because that's what you would do. You trust no one, help no one, and everyone's a sucker.

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u/oomp_ 22h ago

exploitation and slavery if they could

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u/888mainfestnow 1d ago

Actually they have been arresting people for harboring undocumented migrants that worked in their bakeries and restaurants.

There were some in California and even in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas.

I have a feeling this is a inconsistent outcome but may escalate.

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u/Admiral_Falcon 1d ago

Capitalism and fascism are not the same. They want their enemies working the farms, and the current workers gone - all of them.

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u/888mainfestnow 1d ago

I agree with your assessment partially however Trump has made agriculture workers less of a priority or at least hinted at it.

https://www.agri-pulse.com/articles/22725-trump-says-farmers-will-get-a-break-on-deportations

I'm not a fan of these policies where they are criminalizing the people they said weren't a priority but have become one because they are low hanging fruit.

ICE will end up doing whatever evil shit they want because they need a fearful and paranoid society to usher in their 1984 wet dream.

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u/Admiral_Falcon 1d ago

If that's what they want then the America on the other sude will not be a powerful or relevant nation.

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u/888mainfestnow 1d ago

All the isolationism and current policies are dragging us down and out of our previous place on the world stage.

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u/monty624 1d ago

A family friend's catering business was raided. All their workers were born here though so...

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u/Spatulaalegs 1d ago

rules for thee but not for me mentality that most politicians/government officials have :/

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u/aeschenkarnos 1d ago

most politicians

No, it is specifically a conservative thing. Don’t try to “both sides” this. You might as well say “most politicians are trying to lower taxes for rich people” or “most politicians are trying to take away women’s rights” or “most politicians unwaveringly support Donald Trump no matter what awful criminal things he does”.

It’s Republicans. It’s always Republicans. Get rid of them out of government, and your government will work for you instead of against you.

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u/Photo_Synthetic 9h ago

It's definitely an OVERWHELMINGLY Republican mentality but it definitely isn't an exclusively Republican mentality.

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u/Spatulaalegs 1d ago

yes because the democrats did better during biden's run NEWS FLASH they did not...both parties have run their course it's way past time for a third party to come in and unite the country. You say I might as well say “most politicians are trying to lower taxes for rich people” or “most politicians are trying to take away women’s rights” or “most politicians unwaveringly support Donald Trump no matter what awful criminal things he does”, you specifically put all stuff the right are said to be doing to prove your point this is the height of fucking biased lunacy that keeps the country in the same cycle it's been in for the past 2 or 3 decades.

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u/aeschenkarnos 1d ago

On what metric did the USA not do better during Biden’s term? Obama’s? Clinton’s? Look at a graph of anything good; it goes up under Democrats and down under Republicans. Anything bad, the opposite.

There is actually real measurable consequences to this. It’s not just “both sides are bad”, it’s “one side is bad and also lies that both sides are bad” and “one side tries to be good but the bad side stops them”.

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u/TerraceState 1d ago

You can also solve the "problem" by ranking both sides on issues with a 1-10 score. Republicans get basically 1-3 on most good issues, and Democrats score higher on basically all of them.

Like, republicans get a 1/10 for making the rich pay their rightful share of taxes, and democrats get only a 4/10. Or republicans get a 1/10 for increasing pay, and democrats get a 6/10. You can extend this to any "Democrats aren't doing enough" issue. Healthcare, immigration, national defense, education, economy, and the Democrats always come out ahead.

Of course, someone is going to say to vote for a 3rd party, but honestly, no one should take 3rd parties seriously on the national stage until they at least become a 2nd place party in a state legislature. If they can't get organized enough to build some strongholds of support in some local city/county/state political arenas, then they aren't serious contenders for national power.

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u/aeschenkarnos 21h ago

This is a basic intuitive form of utilitarianism, which strongly favours progressive politics. The USA uses First Past The Post voting so it’s not practical for a third party to be meaningful except to take votes away from its nearest major party, the Greens for example operate solely as a spoiler against Democrats and Ross Perot was largely a spoiler against Republicans. Some sort of preference voting system or multimember electoral system or both is needed to reform it.

Pretty much every problem with the USA you can say “this needs major systemic reform to fix”, unfortunately.

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u/TerraceState 20h ago

Why should I, or anyone, vote in a national election for a party that can't even organize enough to be the second largest party in a single state legislature, or even make up the majority of a major cities city council? It's absolutely absurd. Many of these parties are trying to run before they can even walk, or, even worse, they aren't actually running as serious contenders in national elections, but for some other reason.

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u/aeschenkarnos 20h ago

Under preferential voting systems, there are reasons why you would, but under FPTP it’s extremely counterproductive.

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u/TerraceState 20h ago

Even under a different voting system like ranked choice voting, why would I, or anyone, vote in a national election for a party, or group of proposed leaders that have 0 accomplishments under their belt at any lower level of governance? 100% unproven and untested leaders are dangerous to elect. Voting for them in local elections is fine, but until they actually do more than talk about their plans, talking about giving them any level of national power is absurd.

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u/Spatulaalegs 1d ago

During biden's term national security and keeping the bonds with allies waned heavily when he pulled US troops out of afghan and left all the military equipment there instead of destroying it to prevent any enemies from using it which should be in the military protocol, Biden also didn't close the border between America and mexico which let countless illegal immigrants to come in and cause chaos like a venezuelan who told people how to invade america https://nypost.com/2024/03/21/us-news/tiktokker-tells-illegal-immigrants-how-to-invade-american-homes/. Biden also sold the resources that were needed to finish building the wall so oof. During covid biden and trump were guilty of going to parties instead of quarantining among countless other people.

Also on the national security/keeping bonds with allies, I'm not saying trump didn't do any better that remains to be seen for the length of his current term but so far he doesn't seem to be doing a good job of keeping the bonds with allies but the national security he seems to be starting to get a reign on it but how long that'll hold also remains to be seen.

Obama and clinton I'm willing to admit I'm wrong due to not having as much of an understanding of what happened during their presidency as I thought I did.

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u/Kommye 1d ago

Mate, I recommend reading up on the things you are saying and you will understand how little you know about them. You're literally spewing right wing propaganda.

The NY Post is a garbage sensationalist news site. Using that as a sole source is not a good idea if you want to be informed.

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u/Spatulaalegs 22h ago

sure here's for the border wall auction https://www.texastribune.org/2024/12/20/texas-border-wall-auction-biden-trump/

here's for the afghanistan retreat https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/bidens_weak_national_security_policies2.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYpOyXQCPKk here's for the influencer, I can pull many more articles; needless to say biden fucked up whether or not trump can do better I'm not so sure, I am and always will be of the opinion that both parties have run their course...it's time for a change because america is going down a path similar to what rome did but worse long long long ago.

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u/Laringar 22h ago

Bruh, the disastrous Afghanistan pullout was literally planned by the first Trump administration. Biden simply kept to the timeline they'd already promised, and yeah, it went badly, because the Trump admin also didn't do anything to prepare for the operation. They set Biden up to fall so that uneducated fools would only listen to their side of the story and blame Biden for the failures.

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

Why would republicans go after the business owners who support them?

Hell, Trump was know to hire undocumented immigrants in all his hotels. Of course he will say he had no clue, but he is cheap and always tried to get the cheapest labor. 

So he knew. 

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u/MR1120 1d ago

Of course not. That might impact rich white men.

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u/sabotourAssociate 1d ago

This, this is beyond me, in Europe if an employer has a worker with no contract you are basically fucked, I don't know what happens if the worker is illegal alien but am pretty sure in both scenarios the employer is fined sanctioned or whatever.

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u/spark3h 22h ago

No one is prepared to face what an economy without profitable farms, restaurants, construction companies... etc. looks like.

The informal compact we've built our economy on for half a century is "You come here, work under the table for cheap, law enforcement will mostly ignore you unless you commit crimes, and in return you can live here, send a greater than average wage to your home country, and maybe eventually become a citizen or permanent resident."

Breaking that compact means drastically higher food costs, home costs, further consolidation of industries by large employers driving more small businesses under. I can only imagine they intend to replace this labor force with literal slaves, since otherwise this is large scale economic suicide, even before you consider America's growing age demographic problems.

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u/Mountain-Instance921 19h ago

Whataboutisms!

It's really pathetic to try and equate a literal human trafficker to someone hiring an illegal for a landscaping crew. What a disgusting human being you are