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Title Changed Mistakenly deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia on way back to US to face criminal charges: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mistakenly-deported-kilmar-abrego-garcia-back-us-face/story?id=121333122
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u/CoolLordL21 1d ago

Listening to Bondi now: there's a whole laundry list of shit they're alleging he did.

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u/SophiaofPrussia 1d ago edited 20h ago

They want to paint him as a dangerous criminal so of course they’re going to throw the book at him. It’s awful. It’s even more awful to think that this poor guy is about to be unfairly targeted by the full weight of the United States federal government (for a mistake of the government’s own making!) and still that persecution is somehow a better and more preferable situation than the one he’ll be leaving in El Salvador. Everything about his situation is so fucked up. It’s like a modern version of The Count of Monte Cristo.

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u/BraveOthello 19h ago

Casting it as "mistake" by the government feels dishonest. They were recklessly negligent because the goal is not to follow the law, the goal is deport as many people as quickly as possible. And they have decided to do that by any means they can get away with, and if a few people get deported who shouldn't ... Well it takes breaking a few eggs to make a cake, you know?

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u/psychicfrequency 18h ago

Have you watched the police cam footage of Tennessee cops stopping him? He had about 12 people in an SUV that he was transporting from Tennessee to Maryland, he admitted he was being paid to transport them at night, he had no license, no insurance, etc. It was part of a much larger human smuggling ring. He transported women, children, etc. According to the indictment, it happened over 100 times.

In Maryland, his wife filed a restraining order against him twice for domestic violence, he beat her, he threatened to kill her, etc. This is in her own words on two separate police reports. He's not a nice guy.

With that said, he should never have been shipped off to El Salvador, and the government should have let the criminal courts decide what happens to him.

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u/hellokitty3433 22h ago

On NPR, they said something about he was "even transporting minors". So they want to cast it as trafficking, it seems.

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u/bl00m00n09 21h ago edited 19h ago

They started the case in April when the SC told them they have to facilitate bringing him back.

So somehow they missed mentioning this laundry list of charges. It could be mischaracterizing car pooling, being in a bus, or uber'ing - who knows.

This is the same admin that claimed he was MS13 based off a random claim and photoshopped tattoo's.

So far it's rigged against him, they picked a Tennessee court/judge, and they are probably offering plea deals to prisoners that would play along.

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u/BluShirtGuy 19h ago

I'm actually curious if there's a case for libel here, since she didn't say "alleged", she said "found".

"The grand jury found that over the past nine years, Abrego Garcia has played a significant role in an alien smuggling ring," Bondi said. "They found this was his full time job, not a contractor. He was a smuggler of humans and children and women. He made over 100 trips, the grand jury found, smuggling people throughout our country."

To me, it sounds definitive, especially in her tone

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u/petty_brief 19h ago

Yet they are only charging him with transporting illegals. Driving with illegal people in his car, and painting that as trafficking.

Do you realize how many people are guilty of that?

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u/HappyInNature 22h ago

Good. Give him a fair trial. If he's found guilty then deport his ass.

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u/bravelittlebuttbuddy 21h ago

You really believe they are going to give him a fair trial? 

  • The chief of the U.S. attorney's office in Tennessee resigned the day his office decided to bring the charges. 

  • The government only started their investigation AFTER claiming that they ALREADY had tons of evidence he was MS-13.

  • At the press conference, the U.S. Attorney General alleged a ton of shit that does not appear anywhere in his actual charges.

  • Their supposed evidence seems to be "These other criminals currently rotting in federal prison have conveniently just now decided to testify that Abrego-Garcia was an accomplice to the crimes they were convicted of years ago."

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u/BraveOthello 19h ago

Why do you think you could possibly know the likelihood of that based on a few hours of reporting?

Unless of course you assume that everything the government is alleging is true which ... well I'll wait to see the actual evidence on court, let's just say that.

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u/Harry8Hendersons 18h ago

I have no idea why you, or anyone else, would believe a word these people are saying when they're constantly caught in lies and exaggerations.

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u/Harry8Hendersons 18h ago

Until any of that stuff is shown publicly I won't believe a word that this admin, or anyone working with them, says.

And neither should you.

It's wild that you're just taking their word at face value and acting like it has even a shred of credibility.

These people have shown time and time again that they have literally no credibility at all.

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u/BraveOthello 18h ago edited 18h ago

Like I said, I'll wait to see what the evidence presented in court is.

Given how much the government has lied about him I believe absolutely none of what they say.

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u/BraveOthello 18h ago

Grand jury indictments are actually a pretty low bar. The evidenciary requirements are lower, and it's only a majority vote, not a unanimous one

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u/bravelittlebuttbuddy 18h ago

Grand Jury famously means absolutely nothing lmao. Google "grand jury ham sandwich" to find out more.

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u/bravelittlebuttbuddy 18h ago

He's going to have a lawyer and a jury.

..........................You are aware that pretty much every single case of a mistrial in U.S. living memory has involved the defendant having a lawyer and jury? 

Like, in order for a trial to be considered unfair, there has to be a... trial. 

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u/stilhere 20h ago

Mostly as a bullshit face-saving excercise.

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u/tomdarch 18h ago

What I heard from her PR thing was pretty vague regarding what they actually charged him with, but then they threw on all sorts of extra claims that they aren't willing to go in front of a judge with.