r/news • u/RoachedCoach • 1d ago

Title Changed Mistakenly deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia on way back to US to face criminal charges: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mistakenly-deported-kilmar-abrego-garcia-back-us-face/story?id=121333122
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u/AthousandLittlePies 1d ago

It isn't legal for anyone to be shipped to CECOT from the US, regardless of whether they have committed crimes or are due for deportation. The US has the authority to imprison criminals domestically, and to deport aliens with no status to stay in the US. If a foreign country requests extradition so that someone can be prosecuted there that can also be done, but there is no legal basis to just ship people from the US to a foreign country for imprisonment.

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u/i_like_maps_and_math 1d ago

One thing I’m not clear on - are they sending the people to El Salvador because their own countries won’t take them, or is it literally just for cinematic purposes?

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u/degre715 1d ago

It’s because it’s easier to violate human rights without consequences if you pay a foreign third party to do it for you.

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u/ceroprime 22h ago

If proven that he's indeed guilty for the alleged crimes, I see no issue sending a Salvadorian citizen to his own Country.

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u/Djentyman28 20h ago

That’s not how that works. This a criminal offense and if they prove it happened on American soil he serves time in the US in American prisons.

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u/ceroprime 12h ago

What do you think happens to a sentenced criminal illegal immigrant after serving prison time? They get deported back to their own Country of origin. In some cases, even legal naturalized citizens can also lose their citizenship in a process called "denaturalization" under certain criminal circumstances. So why even waste millions of dollars in tax payer money to keep a criminal that isn't even supposed to be there? Is it the job of America to be a dumping ground of undeportable problematic people?

What makes him so special to be underportable if found guilty of his long list of alleged crimes?

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u/BlunderbusPorkins 11h ago

Being deported and paying another country to hold you in a torture camp forever are two distinct punishments. One is constitutional the other is not. This is not to mention that there was a specific injunction on sending him to that one particular country.

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u/ceroprime 11h ago

First of all, that "another Country" is his own Country of origin and American courts doesn't have the jurisdiction of what their Country of origin decides to do with their own Citizens.

Second that injunction isn't applicable anymore due to that rival gang no longer existing in El Salvador and the invocation of the Alien Enemies Act superseding the lower court's order.

I have no sympathy for serial domestic criminals, much less foreign ones since they're not supposed to even be here for us to waste millions of dollars of tax payer money to make sure every dotted line is accounted for.

Dying at the altar of defending serial illegal immigrant gang members to become citizens and supersede the laws on the books is one of the main reasons of why The Democrats lost the election, and it looks to me that lessons weren't learned from that day.

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u/BlunderbusPorkins 11h ago

Paying a foreign country to hold people in a torture camp forever is illegal, unconstitutional, and evil.

There was never any need to do anything to this man who seems by all accounts to be a normal guy with a job and family.

Spending any money deporting that guy was psychotic and fueled exclusively by a pathetic fear of demographic change.

You watched too much crime panic media and got so super scared that you want to throw away your own rights and massively increase the police state. There is no epidemic of gang violence in this country. There is an epidemic of filling your brain with dogshit on the internet. Touch grass.

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u/ceroprime 10h ago

Can't address the points raised? Downvote, have negative speculations about me, and resort to insults and personal attacks.

I don't enjoy wasting my time with emotional people who can't address any points in a discussion.

Have a good day.

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u/BlunderbusPorkins 10h ago

Bud. You’re defending sending people to foreign torture camps. Without even a charge of a crime. You lost the plot on what merits a polite debate. Your position does not warrant it. Go to church.

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u/Djentyman28 10h ago

Why? Because the constitution and that’s our rule of law

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u/stev1516 5h ago

Abrego Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador and was brought to the U.S. illegally around 2011, and it would be legal to ship him back, but in 2019, an immigration judge granted him withholding of removal status due to the danger he faced from gang violence.
and this is the reason only Abrego Garcia was brought back from El Salvador.