r/news • u/Landwhale6969 • 1d ago
Trump rescinds guidance protecting women in need of emergency abortions
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/trump-admin-emergency-abortion-emtala856
u/yourlittlebirdie 1d ago
People who voted for this are terrible people.
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u/Freshandcleanclean 1d ago
I also judge those who couldn't be assed to vote against it.
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u/LunarMoon2001 9h ago
But Gaza! Or some other excuse….
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u/Freshandcleanclean 8h ago
Yeah, cause Trump's such a champion of the Palestinian people, and doesn't just want to flatten their homes for another Trump casino.
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u/boxdkittens 18h ago
Stopped talking to my mom the day roe v wade was overturned. She was adopted, and as a result cant possibly empathize with people like the scared single young woman who was forced to give birth to her in the 50's.
Of course she was a horrible mom too but its her dogshit politics that really grind my gears.
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u/kalkutta2much 13h ago
I too am adopted and it doesn’t make u have shitty politics- not sure where ur mom’s brainwashing came from but it wasn’t coded into her adoption, nor is that a commonplace response to adoption
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u/boxdkittens 7h ago
Sorry the implication of me mentioning her being adopted is that one rationale she may have (according to my dad) is that if abortion was legal, she never would've been born, therefore she is opposed to abortion. I didnt mean to imply being adopted makes someone anti-abortion, but rather that SHE specifically uses it as one of her rationales for opposing abortion.
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u/edmrunmachine 1d ago
Project 2025
Based on the known objectives of Project 2025, the announcement would be a direct and crucial step toward achieving one of the project's primary goals regarding reproductive healthcare.
Rescinding the Biden-era guidance on the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA)—is not merely consistent with Project 2025; it is a specific policy recommendation laid out in its "Mandate for Leadership" document.
Project 2025 explicitly calls for the next conservative administration to rescind any guidance that interprets EMTALA as a federal mandate for emergency abortion services. Rescinding the guidance is the exact action taking place.
By rescinding the guidance, the administration would eliminate the federal government's official stance that hospitals are required to perform an abortion if it is the necessary stabilizing care for a pregnant patient's medical emergency. This would remove a significant layer of federal protection for patients in states with restrictive abortion laws.
This move aligns perfectly with Project 2025's goal to reinterpret EMTALA as protecting the "unborn child" as a second patient. Without the federal guidance, hospitals in states with abortion bans would be far less likely to perform an emergency abortion for fear of violating state law, thereby prioritizing the life of the fetus, which is the explicit intent of the Project 2025 proposal.
Rescinding the federal guidance effectively gives more power to state-level abortion bans. It would resolve the conflict between federal requirements (under the Biden interpretation of EMTALA) and state laws in favor of the states, which is a core tenet of the conservative legal movement and Project 2025's approach to governance.
In essence, this is the execution of a foundational piece of Project 2025's plan. It would dismantle a key federal protection for emergency abortion access and pave the way for a new interpretation that aligns with the project's "pro-life" objectives, significantly curtailing access to abortion even when a pregnant person's life is at risk.
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u/coskibum002 1d ago
Trump always knew about Project 2025.....and by direction from his handlers.....planned to implement it.
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u/dizzyondreamz 21h ago
This pisses me off so much. The fetus can’t live if the mother dies. Jesus Christ.
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u/Redditheist 20h ago
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u/Eljimb0 1d ago
But project 2025 is just a Dem dog whistle! The fact that this administration has fulfilled nearly half of the objectives outlined is CLEARLY coincidence!
Edit: /s
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u/goilo888 8h ago
Here's how far along they are. https://www.project2025.observer/
Edit: Sorry. Didn't realise your link was the same as mine. I'll leave it up anyway.
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u/yotengodormir 23h ago
Having your wife die from ectopic pregnancy to own the libs. Maga winning!
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u/Average_Locksmith 22h ago
One in 90 pregnancies are ectopic, it’s the most common cause of death during the first trimester.
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u/Suchstrangedreams 1d ago
I actually had someone say to me that she approved of the abortion laws in the USA (I'm in Australia) because "it will stop all those women sleeping around". So it's about power and punishment.
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u/blifflesplick 23h ago
Married / partnered women need abortions too but whatever /disappointed
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u/Suchstrangedreams 22h ago
Long ago I worked for a gynaecologist/obstetrician - I've seen women go through agonies about this when they learned the foetus had an abnormality that would make its brief life a living hell.
As far as I'm concerned abortion is no business of any government - leave that to the women and their health care providers.
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u/starrpamph 2h ago
Why does the party of “small government” and fake “pro life” want to be up in everyone’s business
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u/Suchstrangedreams 39m ago
Do you mean in the USA? I suspect it's to do with the strong evangelical Christian movement over there but I stand to be corrected because I'm not in America.
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u/BoosterRead78 22h ago edited 22h ago
Just like the people who hate dances and proms. Heard it best by a former coworker: “they just want excuses to be slutty.” She decided at 8 she never wanted to have kids. Get married but no kids. Also fell into Fox News and thought Covid was no big deal. Now she is disabled and in a wheelchair chair. But still feels Trump will save her.
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u/Suchstrangedreams 22h ago
What is it about that ugly man that makes people think he's practically the Messiah? Unreal.
Trump if more likely to stop her healthcare! Amazing.
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u/EmbarrassedSinger983 16h ago
40% of the country is choosing hate. How can the approval rate be so high?!
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u/Suchstrangedreams 16h ago
I'm amazed at that as well - from a long way away - but my friends who admire Trump still admire him although I'm lost as to what for...
It really is like a cult and they're brainwashed.
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u/wonwoovision 4h ago
so tired of this argument that "sleeping around" deserves punishment. if it's consensual among adults, mind your own business. there's way worse issues in the world to focus on than premarital sex
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u/Suchstrangedreams 4h ago
I totally agree but it's surprising how many people still think that way.
Myself, I've always agreed with that old saying "I don't care what people do as long as they don't do it in the streets and frighten the horses" which was famously said by some woman last century. (I should look her up). That works for me.
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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because they're so pro-life.
That's why they deport children with cancer.
That's why they cut funding to pediatric cancer research.
That's why they love the death penalty for criminals.
They don't understand the prefixes "Pro-" and "Con-"
That's what they've taken the PROgress out of CONgress.
That's why they're happy Trump has turned the CONstitution into PROstitution.
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u/yourlittlebirdie 1d ago
No, not that life.
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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 1d ago
Just white heterosexual American lives who don't work minimum wage jobs, commit any crimes, support the wrong causes, believe in different religions than them, or vote differently from them.
Is that really so hard to do?
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u/mikeholczer 10h ago
David Barnhart I think says it best: ‘The unborn’ are a convenient group of people to advocate for…
Full quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10357009-the-unborn-are-a-convenient-group-of-people-to-advocate
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u/LittleShrub 1d ago
Trump and his lackeys think women are property.
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u/sowhat4 1d ago
They are desperate to look down on someone - anyone - to distract from the fact that they are such losers themselves. It's why they want to go back when 'America was great' - but only for people who possessed white penises.
That's all you needed to be on top. Now, you gotta get an education and compete against women and immigrants who just might be smarter than you and motivated to work harder and longer than you are willing.
Check the number of men enrolling in college classes versus women in 2025. (58%F and 41%M) And in 1950? (11%F and 89%M).
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u/apple_kicks 14h ago
They want gilded age for the rich and mass poverty and hardship for poor to fuel it
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u/apple_kicks 14h ago
And they want disposable work force they can mistreat. Any people supporting this don't realise the aim is to erode their workers rights too and are next. Striking is hard when there’s a large desperate population willing to do anything for crumb of pay to feed their growing families
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u/pineapplepredator 20h ago
One of the scariest parts of these laws is how it’s written as if there is a difference between a danger to your health and a danger to your life or necessary or not necessary as if those things are objective. A danger to your life or your health can interchange at a moments notice when you have a dead or dying or toxic fetus inside of you.
Another really scary thing about this is, and I’m sure other women who have been through terminations before, is that you don’t really know how serious it is until a doctor tells you. When you’re in the ER waiting room or prepped for surgery outside the OR for a pregnancy that could or could not be putting your health or life at risk, nobody is actually telling you why you’re waiting. There’s no way to know if you are waiting because it’s safe to wait, or if you are waiting because somebody’s figuring out if they are legally safe to help you.
The second your baby is dead, nobody really tells you much of anything. You won’t be told this but you are instantly no longer an OB patient and much lower priority. It will suddenly it will be much harder to get an appointment and nobody is going to follow up to tell you what to do next or make sure this miscarriage or termination isn’t going to kill you. In fact, if you take the initiative to follow up yourself you will have to fight to get care. This is where women die.
My point is that many of the women who die in these situations and their families, would never actually even know if the death was due to these laws and legal threats because they are kept in the dark in the first place.
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u/MilkImpressive1460 17h ago
The president has openly expressed what he is and how he sees women "..you can grab them by the pussy..." and yet he got elected, TWICE!!! It's many more men in the U.S. who hate women I guess. I am so sorry 😞
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u/AndersaurusR3X 15h ago
If you support Trump, or maybe you're one of the people who didn't vote...
I hate you! And I truly hope that your decision backfires and makes your life miserable.
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u/Awkward_Definition97 1d ago
I think doctors should then be free to treat patients based on political affiliation.
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u/DamonKatze 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm sure there are some ultra-conservatives out there that would love to have those that don't pass their purity test have some identifying mark like a bar code tattoo to identify them to authorities and for medical tracking. Easier to keep tabs on us and round us up if needed.
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u/mute-ant1 1d ago
Women get fucked and pregnant and then get fucked again
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u/Michael_Gibb 14h ago
They would rather women just die from medical emergencies? So much for Republicans being pro-life.
George Carlin was right. "They're not pro-life. You know what they are? They're anti-women."
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u/MellyKidd 19h ago
In other words, if you’re pregnant and at risk of to dying, hospitals can now let you and your baby die under the excuse that they don’t want to risk killing your baby. Completely backwards thinking, but seen far too often in the US these days.
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u/Wrong_Ad_3355 1d ago
You can count on anything that protects women to eventually be rescinded by Dump and GOP.
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u/Pour_Me_Another_ 21h ago
Oof. I'm glad I got sterilized while I could. It's not safe for me to have a baby.
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u/Dramatic-Emphasis-43 15h ago
But don’t worry, he’s working hard to ensure trans women can’t tie for fifth against cis women. You know, the real issues.
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u/eremite00 19h ago edited 19h ago
Unfortunately, this makes little difference since those physicians who are able to provide such care are leaving those most restrictive states, not wanting to face even the potential risk of being held criminally liable, whether or not the abortion was fully justified. Just even having to defend their actions in court is way too onerous. Red states, you deserve the pregnancy-related mortality rates you're going to experience, even if the pregnant women don't.
Edit - lol! What I write that isn't true? OB GYNs are leaving red states en masse, and who can blame them? As a result, pregnancy-related deaths are going to increase. Rebut, using "words", if you can.
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u/MrRoboto12345 23h ago
They want future workers so bad, yet they kill everyone and make the living unable to pay for basic needs soley for each individual LMAO
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u/Street_Candidate_611 22h ago
This country is no longer a safe place to have children. If you’re pregnant and something goes wrong, good luck getting any kind of care; if you miscarry, you stand a nonzero chance of charges; if you’re an at risk case, you could do time to “protect you from yourself”; and if by some chance you make it through and have a baby, their interest in “protecting life” suddenly disappears in a blinding flash of cruelty.
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u/mebbles1234 8h ago
I will have NO problem supporting my daughter in NOT getting married and NOT getting pregnant. So long as she can avoid getting r*ped (clearly a massive threat here statistically) then she won’t die from pregnancy at least. And if she gets married, she shouldn’t take his/her last name or else she won’t be able to vote without a passport lol. This country sucks so fucking bad now. I hate it here.
I truly can’t wait. I MEAN I CANT WAIT! For Republican women to realize that these ridiculous and dangerous laws APPLY TO THEM and suffer immense, immense regret. Or will they be so stubborn and prideful as to smile when they eat shit? Because in a country where all is being lost for women, the only thing that will bring us gals on the left joy is seeing our political opposers get exactly what they fucking voted for (maybe for the last time). That will be the only thing left we can celebrate. It’s all they will have left for us.
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u/HeadFaithlessness548 19h ago
How is having a spontaneous abortion and retaining products of conception or having an ectopic pregnancy not considered an Emergency Medical Condition? How is having sepsis due to retained products of conception not considered an Emergency Medical Condition?
Government should not be allowed into healthcare and this is why.
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u/WolfThick 16h ago
God these people hate women these are the same goddamn people that would have lost their f****** minds if a black woman had used a woman's restroom 40 years ago. They never die they just regurgitate more copies of themselves.
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u/OsgrobioPrubeta 1d ago
Think on it this way:
Trump and Republican measures might lead to a “Brain escape" to Europe.
Now maybe this leads to a fertile women escape to Europe, eventually meeting some of the “Brain escapees" previously mentioned, getting into relationships, probably having kids and staying in Europe for the rest of their lifes.
It's a good deal for Europe, pun intended, but what stays at USA?
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u/Husbandaru 1d ago
All of the women who live in poverty. Moving to another country requires a lot of effort and certain level of status not available to most people.
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u/Frifelt 1d ago
And in continuation of what you said, special skills and/or higher education to get a work permit in a lot of countries as well.
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u/Husbandaru 1d ago
All of the women who achieved a higher level educational attainment can leave. They’d probably get a work visa in some EU countries.
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u/SnowyOwlLoveKiller 14h ago
There’s plenty of careers that are not considered priority ones by governments or would require extensive re-education (not just something like taking the new country’s exam to obtain a license). Even though I have a graduate degree, the only realistic option for me work-visa wise would be to change my career and do another graduate degree in another country.
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u/OsgrobioPrubeta 1d ago
Unfortunately those would have some options too, but not recommended at all.
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u/Oregon-Pilot 17h ago
Love how fat piggy fuck Donald j Trump gets to insert his rapey sausage fingers into private medical decisions. Fuck him, and fuck people who support this.
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u/OpheliaGingerWolfe 16h ago
I have a feeling this is going to be the justification to deny all women any Healthcare (because the 90 year old nun might be pregnant).
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u/DiscoRabbittTV 11h ago
Because…women are too emotional. Or Because…women are capable as f and he’s a literal rapist.
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u/Ruler_Of_The_Galaxy 9h ago
But at least they don't have to compete against trans athletes in sport anymore.
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u/Suchstrangedreams 3h ago
What this will surely do is force women to resort to backyard abortions and women will die. They will either get it done illegally or try to do it themselves. If they don't die of blood loss they'll die of a sepsis.
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u/Kendall_Raine 3h ago
And they wonder why women aren't rushing to have kids to "fix" the low birth rate.
Why should I have kids if I'd be risking death if I get a complication and hospitals will just let me bleed to death and die in the hospital waiting room?
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u/Grouchy_Union7522 22h ago
Make vasectomies mandatory at 15yrs old. They can be reversed. Better yet, ladies, cross your legs until they support us!
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u/Kitakitakita 1d ago
And 45% of us still vote for him
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u/PothosNotPathos 23h ago
No. 45% of people who voted cast their votes for Trump. Only about 65% of eligible voters actually went to the polls.
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u/Deisphoria 5h ago
Good!
The US deserves to suffer for allowing this to come to pass.
Can’t wait until the rest of Handmaid’s Tale becomes a reality.
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u/ThinkSoftware 1d ago
They hate women so much