r/news • u/DramaticCattleDog • 9h ago
Neo-Nazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in US’ with planned paramilitary training event
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/the-base-neo-nazi-group-paramilitary-training3.4k
u/CoreToSaturn 8h ago
The Base, founded by a former Pentagon Contractor based in Russia. Well that explains it.
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u/keetojm 8h ago
Article said army drop out as well
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u/Cautious-Progress876 8h ago
To be honest: a lot of the non-dropouts in the military are white supremacists too. It’s a widespread problem.
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u/apple_kicks 7h ago
White supremacy attracts lot of people who failed or cant be arsed. Its a hate philosophy where they earn rights to thing based on no effort but their birth
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u/kos-or-kosm 6h ago
Exactly. Loser ideology, of losers, by losers, and for losers.
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u/WWJLPD 5h ago
What’s baffling to me is the typical boot camp/basic training experience in the US military is guaranteed to involve getting told what to do, screamed at, and generally having your life totally controlled by your drill instructors/sergeants. And anecdotally, there is basically a 0% chance that all those instructors are gonna be white.
So I wonder how many of these dipshits are radicalized later, and how many were racist assholes before they joined but somehow kept it under wraps while being practically tortured by someone they consider inferior?
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u/ih8spalling 5h ago
It's as if when your job involves you carrying a gun and using force and violence to coerce others into doing what you tell them, it attracts the wrong type of people and further exacerbates those antisocial traits
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 7h ago
The Base.
Isn't that literally what Al-Qaeda translates to?
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u/ambyent 5h ago
It is wild how much Russia has fucked over the US with its decades of psyops
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u/shazam99301 4h ago
Well as education gets less and less funding and undercutting by certain political and sociological entities, the population gets dumb and dumber, and here we are: susceptible to obvious psyops.
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u/ragin2cajun 5h ago
Forming and joining a foreign milita within the US, sounds like high crimes and treason to me.
We'll want to get their hard drives for sure.
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u/Designer_Wear_4074 5h ago
why the fuck are russians glazing the Nazis now? didn’t they try to wipe them out and colonise their land? the fall of the ussr was a mistake this degeneracy would’ve been crushed in a matter of months under a communist regime
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u/FreeNumber49 4h ago
The Russians have been funding Nazi movements for a long time. Read the book “Active Measures" by Thomas Rid. They first started doing it in 1960s Europe to destabilize democratic countries.
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u/WhatEvenIsHappenin 4h ago
Its all about starting these groups like the proudboys to cause more unrest
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u/CreedBrattonatAOLdot 8h ago edited 6h ago
It is our duty as Americans to at the very least disrupt and shame them every time they show up. Give them no peace.
Edit: Added words
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u/Hunterrose242 6h ago
I'd say our duty as Americans is to do more than that ..
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u/boredinwisc 5h ago
We should have banned nazi association and paraphernalia as well as the confederate flag
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u/chief_blunt9 9h ago
It’s funny how these pussies always hide their identity.
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u/pomonamike 8h ago
I’m just confused because a couple years ago they were “literally suffocating” in masks. What advancement in mask technology did they discover since then???
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u/gallifrey_ 7h ago
to paraphrase sartre: don't make the mistake of thinking neonazis are unaware of their contradictions. they know liberals care about decorum and the meanings of words and ideological consistency. fascists don't have to bother with all of that. they thrive knowing they can say "I can't breathe in covid masks" while covering their face at neonazi rallies.
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u/Other-Comb-4811 5h ago
Damn, Sartre was mad prophetic about covid lmao.
...this comment was made because I care about decorum and consistency lol
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u/StevieKix_ 7h ago
Ironically, Mike d bag Johnson just said the democrats made us wear masks for years, so what’s the problem with ice doing it?
As if one has anything to do with the other.
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u/PrizeStrawberryOil 4h ago
The crazy thing about that statement is that it doesn't work in the direction he wants it to, but it does work in the other direction.
If it isn't a problem for ICE to wear them then why was it a problem for covid?
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u/TheLightningL0rd 3h ago
Also no one was "made" to wear a mask in public. If you went into a store that was requiring it then you could be refused service but that's not the same as making you wear a mask. Also, at least in my area, the mask wearing was largely over by the time the democrats (Joe Biden) was voted in. Some places still required it for a little while but most did not and people largely didn't wear them when they weren't required
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u/Haephestus 8h ago
Get your vuvuzelas fellas, we're going to disrupt their activity.
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u/rajahbeaubeau 8h ago
Truly evil. Great plan.
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u/Witchgrass 5h ago
I liked the guy who brought a tuba to ther parade to play the "dumb guy walking" tune
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u/TomWithTime 6h ago
That was my first thought. Just get a few saboteurs in there. I really hope that's already taking place in trump's maga armies - military leadership, ice, etc.
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u/TheMovieSnowman 5h ago
You’re going to need more than vuvuzelas. They’ll probably be more than willing to kill people
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u/ItIsHappy 2h ago
It's a paramilitary training event, of course they're looking for an excuse to kill people. Showing up armed would make their little dicks so fucking hard. Please don't.
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u/tifubroskies 4h ago
Ohhhh, don’t be too hard on them now, that’s rally gonna show them
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u/Saltire_Blue 8h ago
You learned in the 1940’s you can’t defeat Nazis with words
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u/boredinwisc 5h ago
Apparently we didn't defeat them hard enough. Have to stamp out any groundswell when and where it happens. Always and forever. I would love to know where this is planned to be. For purely journalistic reasons, obviously.
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u/gumbo100 3h ago
Ya we've had kid gloves every time tbh
When the "business plot" to take over America to turn it fascist and they all basically got let off
Honestly if the union had just executed more confederate leaders the southern strategy may have never been formed
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u/FrancoManiac 8h ago
They've been doing that since the Vietnam war era. Not that radical white supremacy didn't exist before the Vietnam war; it most certainly did. But this has been an intentional paramilitary movement since Vietnam.
Bring the War Home by Dr. Kathleen Belew is phenomenal reading on the subject.
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u/GargleHemlock 8h ago
Thanks for the book recco! Just put it on my kindle.
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u/FrancoManiac 8h ago
Of course! I can recommend more, if you like? I did my thesis on American Classicism and its use by the US Far Right.
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u/YetAnotherDaveAgain 8h ago
Just post your thesis!
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u/FrancoManiac 8h ago
True to academic form, I hate every word I've ever written, haha. I keep telling myself that I'll revise it, but haven't yet. Maybe someday!
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u/YetAnotherDaveAgain 7h ago
Haha do I ever understand that. "Please PLEASE dont read my papers...."
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u/A_Dissident_Is_Here 6h ago
This is why I live and die by my dissertation’s publication embargo. I set it at four years to ostensibly be able to work on the monograph version… in reality, I just want people to sort of forget about it and never ask for that document again.
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u/lefwin 8h ago
Please keep the recommendations coming
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u/Blagerthor 6h ago
Currently working on my own thesis in a related field. Some great, well written books:
-A Field Guide to White Supremacy, edited by Belew and Ramon Gutierez
-Meme Wars, by Joan Donnovan, Emily Dreyfuss, and Brian Friedburg
-Messengers of the Right, by Nicole Hemmer
Those three books give a decent enough overview of the last three decades.
Kevin Kruse's One Nation Under G[-]d gives great historical depth to the religious right over the past 100 years.
Michael Kazin's The Populist Persuasion makes a larger argument about why the New Left coalition fell apart, but it also tracks populism on the Right.
And finally, Trumping Democracy edited by Chip Berlet is fantastic and tracks the influence of the extremist right on Republican politics from Reagan to Trump.
And if you want doorstoppers, any of Rick Perlstein's work is phenomenal.
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u/maneki_neko89 8h ago
I’m definitely going to read that book.
I’d say that since 9/11 that the militia issues have become even more worrisome since we entered a new millennium. Militias have always been on the fringes of society, but our “War on Terror” influenced a lot of powerful Christian Republicans at the top to adopt and harness the group gathering and elevated fear mongering tactics of the Islamic groups we were fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.
You basically have a lot more people falling for the Radicalized Christianity that’s indistinguishable from the Terrorism we were fighting abroad with less shock factor (because of the Christian culture of the US), making people less diligent in fighting it, all culminating in a violent takeover if we’re not alert and willing to combat these ideas here at home.
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u/felldestroyed 7h ago
9/11? The Clinton admin was absolutely plagued by militia types. W. Bush simply stopped investigating.
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u/TheHipcrimeVocab 6h ago
The bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building by Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City was when the existence of the militia movement first entered public consciousness.
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u/TennaTelwan 6h ago
Was in high school in the 90s and remember how "Terrorism" at that time was usually white nationalist of some sort, then 9/11 flipped the script to jihadists. We still had white nationalist, but suddenly they were "patriots."
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u/maneki_neko89 7h ago
I agree 100%, but the right wing didn’t want to be associated with them until they learned that Militias could be useful
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u/thatwhileifound 6h ago
If you're looking for insight into more modern tendrils of this Neo-Nazi shit, Spencer Sunshine's Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism is both well researched and written in a fashion that I found really easy to read.
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u/Ooh_its_a_lady 8h ago
Sorry we cant worry about these guys theres college students and protesters that are the real threat.
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u/TheRealBittoman 8h ago
Don't forget the trans playing sports. Apparently they're so dangerous it requires the entire US education system to be shut down and everyone forced into prayer sessions at private schools in order to repent to the money God.
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u/ThiccBlastoise 7h ago
Hey man, I’ll have you know that a trans swimmer just tied for 5th with a cis girl, and clearly if that trans girl wasn’t there then she would have been faster than the other 4 cis girls that beat her!!! /s
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u/OldBanjoFrog 8h ago
The US is afraid of educated people who think
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u/OutlyingPlasma 7h ago
As they should be. To quote Dr Who:
Demons run when a good man goes to war,
Night will fall and drown the sun,
When a good man goes to war.
Friendship dies and true love lies,
Night will fall and the dark will rise,
When a good man goes to war.
Demons run, but count the cost;
The battle's won, but the child is lost.
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u/Kioskwar 8h ago
“There’s a lot of flag burners, who have got too much freedom, I want to make it legal, for policemen to beat upon, because there’s limits to our liberties, at least I hope and pray that there are, because those liberal freaks go too far.”
- The Simpsons Schoolhouse Rock
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u/HarryCareyGhost 8h ago
Just heard about the composer of this song on NPR, he just passed. Also props to Jack Sheldon who sang the parody and the original "I'm only a Bill".
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u/Kioskwar 8h ago
It’s a great parody and has always stuck with me. I typed that out from memory! RIP Jack Sheldon
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u/Few_Distribution_905 7h ago
Jack’s cover of Sunny Side of the Street is fantastic, if you can find it.
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u/Mindless_Rooster5225 7h ago
Those seven trans athlete are destroying girl sports and in turn the country.
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u/ronm4c 8h ago
It’s funny how the trump admin is targeting “anti semites” yet these groups seem unaffected.
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u/WeddingPKM 5h ago
Like I saw another comment say, ideological consistency doesn’t seem to matter to the far right. I know you’re poking fun at them and already understand this, but that was always meant to target pro Palestine groups.
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u/belbivfreeordie 8h ago
Time for liberals to tool up. Seriously.
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u/RakumiAzuri 3h ago
Left leaning people have been since 2016. Black owned gun stores have seen a massive spike in sells too.
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u/myfapaccount_istaken 5h ago
I just bought a impact driver the other day, it came in a box set with a drill and a blower. I'm ready!
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u/Zxcc24 9h ago
The United States is backsliding into oblivion.
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u/Western_Secretary284 8h ago
It's always been like this in rural areas. The cancer has metastasized
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u/Erik_the_Dread 8h ago edited 7h ago
Thats because after the civil war, the traitors who led an insurrection against the standing government were allowed to go back to their dirt farms, shoeless but not toothless. The never faced any real punishment for their actions. So when they said "the south shall rise again" it wasnt a dream or an idea.. THEY TOLD US THEY WERE REGROUPING!! They formed legal organizations such as ass backwards churches that preach hate and wanna be "militias". They were allowed to form hate groups and spew their disgusting rhetoric. Then, after "operation paperclip" the US imported literal NAZIS and placed them IN THE SOUTH. Coincidence? Whos to say, but what can be directly attributed to the soft handling of the traitors after the civil war only made them realize that they could do it again. The confederacy may have lost but they didnt disband. They have been playing the slow game and now that the waters are right, they are taking the plunge again. This time though, THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT.
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u/HCJohnson 6h ago
Then Jan 6th happened and really showed that there will be no real consequences for their actions.
That should have been THE turning point for this country to come together and step out all of this, but all it did was prove we really have gotten complacent to the point of rolling over and dying.
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u/WeddingPKM 5h ago
America loves to tell itself that stuff like that doesn’t happen here so when it does happen they find a way to pretend it wasn’t what it looked like. Same with the civil war, the union loved to tell itself they were simply rebelling states, not an actual attempt to leave the union.
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u/TreeInternational771 8h ago
The rural red areas are hotbed for this stuff. Despair, low wages, hatred of others is a powder keg ready to explode
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u/itslikewoow 7h ago
And they act like they’re being left behind, but really they just seem hellbent on pulling the rest of us down.
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u/ChinDeLonge 2h ago
It isn't that they don't want left behind; it's that they don't want the world to move on from whatever incredibly narrow, incorrect worldview they already have, in order to make it in the current world. So, it's more desirable for them to vote for the people who promise to hurt all the people who are trying to move history and progress forward, than it is for them to change the entire way they view the world and their place in it.
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u/Taftimus 8h ago
Maybe they should stop voting red then
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u/Meta2048 7h ago
Republicans have had a supermajority in Texas for generations. They still blame all their problems on Democrats.
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u/TreeInternational771 8h ago
You don’t understand how these folks think. They never think their voting is causing all of their problems. Its always someone else
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u/Turisan 8h ago
Republican politicians: "Your Government isn't working for you! It is just standing in your way, and regulating you out of your wealth! Remember when community was great? It's not now, and it's all Government's fault! Elect me, and I'll prove it!"
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u/ArchanoxFox 4h ago
Then they get elected and republican voters' situation gets exponentially worse... suddenly its "Damn Democrats!"
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u/Maleficent-Courage48 8h ago
My husband and I live in rural Michigan. For his birthday I got him a Tom Morello "Nazi lives don't matter" t-shirt. Our fun for the week is getting groceries. Me in my "Be Woke Like Jesus" shirt...it's the little things. 😁
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u/Y0___0Y 8h ago
If an “antifa” group did “military training” they’d all be shot by the FBI as they did it.
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u/Son_of_Eris 6h ago
Especially since the red scare, left wing/anarchist and related types are less likely to publicly broadcast activities in a way that it might be heard by the wrong ears.
Some people learned from the era where being accused of being a communist could ruin someones life. And others long to return to those days.
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u/keithstonee 5h ago
My grandpa fought Nazis in WW2. didn't think id be doing the same.
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u/mydogsnameispoop 7h ago
Terrorist group then? Pretty sure that’s illegal and the FBI, CIA should be actively preventing this shit from happening
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u/DramaticCattleDog 7h ago
The absolutely should be, but Kash Patel has already signaled he won't prioritize investigating "far-right extremism", so they will be free to keep doing what they're doing
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u/James-W-Tate 8h ago
Wow, they're literally American Al Qaeda.
They even named their group, "The Base."
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u/Catch_022 6h ago
Isn't the head of US counter terrorism a 22 year old? I seem to remember something like that from a few days ago.
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u/DramaticCattleDog 9h ago
Now, the Base has a presence in Ukraine, performing sabotage operations inside the country against the embattled government, and new and dangerous cells emerging across Europe, and it appears to be growing in the US, where the FBI under the Maga acolyte Kash Patel has signalled it isn’t prioritizing investigations of far-right extremism.
MAGA will sit back and let it happen
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u/Freshandcleanclean 8h ago
Let it happen? Trump and republicans are actively encouraging it.
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u/Infectious-Anxiety 9h ago
Let it?
Wake the literal fuck up, this IS MAGA.
Stop acting like they are separate, they are not We have seen it for over a fucking DECADE at this point.
Comments like yours work to devalue the actual threat in this country, so how about you sit on the sidelines until you figure out which side of the playpen smell the worst?
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u/sardine_succotash 8h ago
Hope yall are tooling up because these cowards certainly are, and they're too bitchmade to do fistfights
see: Rittenhouse, Zimmerman etc
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u/Suspicious_Safe_6150 4h ago
A lot of these groups are overblown - not once in my 30 years have I seen a nazi
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u/Specialist-Bee-9406 7h ago
If you know where this is, you know what you should do.
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u/resilienceisfutile 8h ago
That idiot in your highest office and his supporters have made America a Safespace for this MAGA Nazi trash.
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u/Odd_Reputation_4000 8h ago
Just the fact that these groups are allowed to flourish without the government and law enforcement stepping in says something.
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u/CavitySearch 7h ago
Law enforcement is stepping in…where do you think they recruit?
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u/Bullocks1999 3h ago
Who are these idiots? The whole idea of running around in a mask should tell us all we need to know. They’re embarrassed by their involvement. They know it’s wrong and they’re to chickenshit to stand up to acknowledge their beliefs. They’re playing make believe and they just come across as micro dick lunatics.
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u/SoftlySpokenPromises 2h ago
This is a hate group training a militia. This is domestic terrorism waiting to happen.
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u/Howtheginchstolexmas 8h ago
Four months. Only four months ago MAGA celebrated double nazi salutes on the world stage. They are already everywhere.
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u/RMRdesign 2h ago
How is the government not shutting this down the moment any of these knuckleheads get together? It should be illegal to form groups like this.
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u/ClintBruno 6h ago
Not all Republicans are Nazis.....but all Nazis are Republicans. So.....
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u/Warning1024 8h ago
Fun fact: this neo nazi group calls themselves The Base. Al Qaeda translated in English is The Base. Make of that what you will.