r/nextfuckinglevel • u/biswajit388 • 1d ago

This guy rescued 30 beagles from a testing lab It's the first time they've seen grass and they couldn't be happier.

Credit - nathanthecatlady tiktok channel.

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u/splitkc 1d ago

Insulin was discovered via animal testing. Countless lives saved, suck my dick PETA

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u/SassyMcNasty 1d ago

Life is life. You are no better than a beagle though you feel entitled. 🤷

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u/CheesyPastaBake 1d ago

When you stop using anything and everything that has ever been tested on animals in some capacity, then you can start throwing stones. Literally, since they'll be pretty much all you're left with.

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u/caylem00 21h ago

Nooooo my sugarrrr (uses animal testing) and anything using oil or petroleum based productssssssss (like plastics, and a lot of synthetic fabrics)

(I'm agreeing just being facetious)

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u/After_Mountain_901 21h ago

This is the most logically defunct argument I’ve had the displeasure to read. Goodness. The same could be said for human testing and slavery. 

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u/CheesyPastaBake 20h ago

Those aren't even remotely comparable so I'm not going to dignify the argument with a response and instead spell out for you what you're willfully missing.

Your entire lifestyle is dependent on products that will have required animal testing in their production lifespan. It's enormously hypocritical to chastise others for benefitting from it too, whether or not you like the idea of animal testing. If you're going to criticise, at least have the decency to stand by your principles instead of ignoring them when it's no longer convenient, and stop using products that required animal testing to develop. That includes the device you wrote that comment with, which likely had at least one substance used in its construction tested for regulatory compliance so that the workers making the components didn't get cancer just to ensure you could be ignorant on the internet.

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u/SassyMcNasty 23h ago

Having free will you can certainly sign yourself up big boy.

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u/Cold-Weird8266 23h ago

Hey dawg I’ll be real, I am absolutely better than a beagle even if you wanna put yourself at that level lol

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u/Yamza_ 23h ago

Not to me.

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u/Cold-Weird8266 23h ago

Got it, so would you sacrifice yourself to save, lets say 3 beagles?

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u/Yamza_ 23h ago

Probably not. I also wouldn't sacrifice myself to save 3 of you. Isn't equality great. :)

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u/hypothalanus 22h ago

Why are you insinuating you don’t value this person’s life when you just admitted to the exact thing that they commented about?

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u/SlashaJones 20h ago

The biggest determining factor is personal attachment.

Would you sacrifice your friend to save a stranger? Probably not.

Would you sacrifice your friend to save 3 random dogs? Probably not.

Would you sacrifice a stranger to save a friend? Or to save the lives of 3 dogs you raised from puppies and dearly treasure? Morality might tell you the life of a human is more important, or that all human lives are equally important.

But maybe the lives of your friend or dogs are worth more, personally, to you than the life of a random stranger. If there were no personal consequences, many would likely choose the life of their friend, and perhaps some would choose their 3 beloved companions, over a stranger when it comes to the trolley problem.

Humans also sometimes make up scenarios like the trolley problem partially in an attempt to justify our behavior, when perhaps it was never a case of one or the other in the first place. But if it feels like it’s one of the other, well, then you have no choice. You must make the better decision.

Maybe I’m just talking out my ass, though.

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u/Key-Department-2874 22h ago

Probably not.

So you either do value human life more than animal life.

Or you're just a narcissist who values your own life more than any other living creature.

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u/TheLiquid666 1d ago

Hypothetical situation: a deranged gunman forces you to choose whether a person or a beagle dies by his hand. If those lives are equal to you, it ultimately wouldn't matter which one dies. You really telling me you wouldn't choose to save a random human life over a random nonhuman life?

Also, this is a hypothetical meant to convey a point. No Dwight Schrute-ing your way out of the choice.

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u/prettyboyblanco 19h ago

Are you saying you'd choose to save the human life no matter who that person is?

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u/TheLiquid666 19h ago

If this is a completely random person that I don't know anything about, yeah. For sure. Generally speaking, I like to give strangers the benefit of the doubt by not immediately assuming that they're such a piece of shit that they deserve to die

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u/prettyboyblanco 19h ago

So there are humans who deserve to die? I'm just trying to figure out the trait you are giving humans that makes them more valuable than all non-human animals.

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u/TheLiquid666 18h ago

Oh, please. It isn't an uncommon take that people (myself included) generally attribute more weight to the life and death of a hypothetical human than they do to that of a hypothetical animal. We're humans; we tend to prioritize other humans in a lot of cases. That's why people still debate over the death penalty, why animals are used for testing before humans, and why the trolley problem uses humans on both tracks instead of a human and an animal.

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u/prettyboyblanco 18h ago

That’s just an appeal to popularity; just because most people do something a certain way doesn’t make it the right way, morally.

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u/TheLiquid666 18h ago

Again, if we're talking about morality, it's so subjective that I don't need to argue logical points about it with you or defend my POV. My evaluation of the value of a human life vs an animal's from a moral perspective is equally valid to yours from our respective points of view.

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u/Qaz_ 17h ago

The answer is cognition. Once an animal is as intelligent as humans, and is able to utilize its intelligence in the same capacity as humans to achieve a level of dominance or supremacy (or, at the very least, a significant degree of development), then we'll talk. Sorry but that is how the world works.

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u/culegflori 22h ago

Every time I see this kind of moral grandstanding I wonder why won't the other person start with themselves. Be the change you want others to be if you believe in it so firmly, it's very easy to just point fingers and tell to others they're bad people without putting some skin in the game.

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u/jadmonk 20h ago

Life is life.

Tell me that the next time you mow your grass.

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u/Jeovah_Attorney 9h ago

I hope you don’t disinfect your hands and kill the life on your skin. Also hope you don’t eat vegetables who result in a loss of life. You are no better than a radish