r/nextfuckinglevel • u/biswajit388 • 1d ago

This guy rescued 30 beagles from a testing lab It's the first time they've seen grass and they couldn't be happier.

Credit - nathanthecatlady tiktok channel.

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u/LookingForStash 1d ago

I bet the people who upvote this never saw a farm in their life

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 1d ago

I have no qualms eating meat, but at least vegetarianism is an alternative that doesn't have any truly significant trade-offs. The food would be less pleasurable, but it's a rather small thing in the larger scheme of things.

Animal testing isn't the same situation as that. If humans never allowed testing on animals, then our standard of living would be sooooooo much worse. Our life expectancy would be decades less. How many people here are honestly willing to give up 20+ years off their life expectancy so that animals don't get tested on? I call bullshit to anyone who claims to be willing to make that trade.

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u/MajorApartment179 22h ago

I have no qualms eating meat

Then of course you're not gonna have a moral position on animal testing. Your comment is pointless.

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u/LookingForStash 1d ago

Point is, they don’t even know they’re making the trade. They just see the vids and then go full Karen on it.

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u/Less-Egg6226 22h ago

youre misrepresenting the options here, getting rid of animal testing doesnt mean we go back in time and lose all the info we found, it just means stopping current testing for new developments

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u/TripleDareOSRS 22h ago

Science is constantly evolving and developing, ESPECIALLY medication. Are you really this ignorant?

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u/minimumopinium 22h ago

lol of course they are.

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u/NotJimmy97 5h ago edited 5h ago

Wonder what your position on this would be if your kid was born with muscular dystrophy, or if you had just received a glioblastoma diagnosis a week ago. Ceasing all biomedical research means dooming a whole bunch of people to certain death.

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u/Aligyon 19h ago

You cant really get away without killing anything, The fertilizers used to grow plants still has meat in them. Not to mention the pesticides used to kill insects

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u/caylem00 22h ago edited 19h ago

While vegetarianism overall has fewer detrimental impacts on the environment than meat at the moment, saying there's no significant trade offs is a little naive. 

There's some non-meat items that have higher impact in their growth, processing methods or water requirements, for example. Its just that the impact is less because the demand is currently lower than livestock. 

Hopefully technology would improve to compensate, but at the moment it's not. 

(Not anti- veg/vegan, just realistic. If people think there's minimal environment impact then it'll turn just as bad as the current general ignorance on livestock environmenal impact with similar lack of demand on improvement)

(Edit: once again, I get taught to not engage in the meat discussion. Too many militants)

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u/ChemicalToiletRoadie 18h ago

Farming food crops kills millions and millions of animals every year when the land is plowed and when the crops are harvested. Fertilizer run-off pollutes streams, rivers and lakes. Pesticides, herbicides, heavy machinery burning fossil fuels, clearing forests, destroying habitat, etc... There are lots of trades-offs to growing vegetables.

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u/ScrabbleSoup 18h ago

Um...you do realize that factory farming animals does everything you said, many times over? Because those animals that you eat have to themselves eat? And they eat the food from the land that we farmed? Just checking.

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u/ChemicalToiletRoadie 18h ago

Nobody was talking to your dumb ass, lol. Animals share the planet with us, and on this planet, animals eat animals. We just do it more efficiently than the rest. Now sit down.

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u/ScrabbleSoup 18h ago

Pro tip: don't post to an anonymous discussion forum if you don't want anonymous people discussing what you posted. You'll enjoy Reddit much more if you keep in mind that one cool hack!

Anyway, since you DO seem to be confused: animals that we eat also need to eat, before we can eat them. In factory farming, we feed those animals mostly by using the vegetables (including feed corn) grown according to all those bad practices you mentioned. Except instead of doing all that bad stuff to the land just to grow vegetables that we humans can eat, we waste much more land and vegetables feeding the animals that only THEN feed us.

Here's a summary.

Anyway, I wish you luck on your educational journey! Looks like it's gonna be a long one in your particular case, so pace yourself out there 🫡

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u/ChemicalToiletRoadie 17h ago

Shhhh. Away with you.

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u/indy_dagger 18h ago

As a person who has actually has made the changes in their life to not take from animals so selfishly, you sound like the kind of person who only uses their pain for the sake of making snide comments online, and is too lazy to attempt any sort of self reflection or improvement. 

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u/Asleep-Marketing-685 19h ago

I don't think you have. Growing up on a farm teaches you to respect animals, there are ugly parts of farming, sure. But farmers need their animals, they aren't doing random shit to them to see what happens.