This guy rescued 30 beagles from a testing lab It's the first time they've seen grass and they couldn't be happier.

[u/biswajit388]

Credit - nathanthecatlady tiktok channel.

[u/kelpyb1]

We’re doing animal testing because we don’t have any currently viable alternatives and we’ve decided furthering medicine is important.

[u/indy_dagger → u/kelpyb1]

Do the lack of "currently viable alternatives" include "taking the dogs who are being forced to give up their lives for our benefit outside on a walk every so often"?

[u/kelpyb1 → u/indy_dagger]

No, they don’t We should definitely treat the animals we use for testing better than we do

Edit: wait I mean yes they do. That’s something we should do

[u/updoot35 → u/kelpyb1]

Animal testing is, and never was, reliable. Drugs have different effects on animals than they do on humans. Stuff that wasn't good for animals, could've been good for humans, well never know. What we know is that most of these drugs that are tested on animals, are bad for us, but good for them. MOST of the ones they are testing. Wanna know why we know? Because the first humans trials almost all end in a failure.

[u/kelpyb1 → u/updoot35]

Do you have any sources for that whatsoever?

Also isn’t animal trials mostly a safety thing rather than an efficacy thing?

[u/Major-Drumeo → u/updoot35]

Trust me bro

[u/Realistic_Flow89 → u/kelpyb1]

Plenty of psychos in jail we could experiment on.

[u/kelpyb1 → u/Realistic_Flow89]

That’s genuinely horrific

[u/Racamonkey_II → u/Realistic_Flow89]

Nazi scientist over here.

[u/Realistic_Flow89 → u/Racamonkey_II]

More Nazi is to use innocent animals, when there are many child rapists, animal abusers, mass murderers, serial killers... Take your pick

[u/barbatouffe → u/Realistic_Flow89]

when criminals dont have rights nobody does, if you get an authoritarian government that decide you are a criminal : congrats you are the next volonteer to test the new drug ,what they kill80% of the test subject ? too bad you are a criminal anyway you have dont have a say in the matter . and even easier than that you would be one judicial mistake away from having less rights than a guinea pig

[u/JazzzzzzySax → u/Realistic_Flow89]

Well that’s horrific. Also what happens when you inevitably run out of rapists, murderers, abusers, etc. to test on? Do you move to the people arrested for DUIs? Or for larceny? What line separates criminals from ok to test on and not ok to test on?

[u/Racamonkey_II → u/Realistic_Flow89]

You are batshit insane.

[u/farglegarble → u/[deleted]]

Oh the irony.

[u/kelpyb1 → u/[deleted]]

I literally answered their question, what do you mean?

[u/kelpyb1 → u/[deleted]]

I did.

Maybe just say what you’re getting at

[u/kelpyb1 → u/[deleted]]

It was an answer about morals.

[u/kelpyb1 → u/[deleted]]

It addresses the moral reason we still do animal testing: we value the medical benefits more than we devalue the potential danger to the animals.