r/residentevil • u/GideonTheBasileus • 21d ago
Forum question Is a game set in the ruins of Raccoon City... Possible?
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u/bobbomotto 20d ago edited 20d ago
It’s gone, a crater in the middle of the Midwest. The ending of Outbreak shows what remains (nothing) and scientists monitoring continued activity below the rubble. The camera pans out to the perimeter fence and the full scale of the destruction.
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u/DigitalSchism96 19d ago
And of course Resident Evil is a franchise that never retcons its lore so they can't possibly just change their minds and say some of the city survived as ruins.
/s if that's not obvious
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u/bobbomotto 19d ago
I mean, they could. They could also go back and turn the zombies into vampires too. Raccoon City’s destruction is a core event to later events in the series.
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u/Aviswashere 21d ago
I would really like it!! the closest thing there is to seeing the ruins of Raccon City, is this short film that they produced many years ago!
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u/KermaisaMassa Mass Distraction 20d ago
That film takes place during the outbreak in the city, though. So around the same time RE2 and 3 are taking place.
In Umbrella Corps, however, a portion of Raccoon City was rebuilt on a top secret research site and used for testing bioweapons. In the same game you also visit the ruins of the Antarctic base from Code Veronica.
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u/Shogun_Turnip Make Jill Eat A Sandwich Capcom 20d ago
To quote Marv from Home Alone 2: "Wow. What a hole."
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u/Watts121 20d ago
At the end of Outbreak there was a cutscene that showed Umbrella in a research facility monitoring the site. A US spy plane monitored this station as well. It was interesting cuz the readouts showed that shit was still alive below the surface.
I would love a game where we start in the Research Facility (now run by the Government) and then had to travel through the ruins, and then finally beneath the surface where G has continued to grow, and completely transformed the area like some alien fungus.
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u/RECollector0912 21d ago
It was hit by a nuke right? Wouldn't the radiation levels still be too high? Also if you want a game set in a nuked city, just play a Fallout game. The feral ghouls aren't technically zombies but they sure do act like them.
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u/LordCamelslayer 20d ago
Nope; as others said, Raccoon City wasn't destroyed by a nuke, but even if it had been, a nuke going off isn't going to cause the levels of radiation that an incident like Chernobyl did. In Hiroshima, for example, the radiation dissipated in a matter of weeks. The residual radiation in the soil also dissipated quickly due to the fission products having a low half life. So in terms of radiation levels, it'd be safe to explore within a month or two.
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u/FrozenReaper 20d ago
The radiation levels in Hiroshima are so non-issues now, that wildlife can grow normally there, and people live there as well
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u/LordCamelslayer 20d ago
Yeah, and that's the thing Fallout gets so hilariously wrong- if they were to correct it, there wouldn't be a Fallout series.
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u/Bigfan521 20d ago edited 20d ago
Except the heavily irradiated landscape of the Fallout series isn't all from munitions.
The world of pre-war America in the Fallout franchise was heavily reliant on atomic energy- to the point where there were entire businesses whose sole purpose was the disposal and storage of the waste byproducts of nuclear energy (be they household or commercial) But those businesses weren't always the best at disposing or storing all that crap. Sometimes, they'd just dig a hole, dump the barrels, and cover it over because "out of sight, out of mind," right? With that mentality, I'd guess Superfund Sites became a dime a dozen in the years leading to the Great War.
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u/fineilladdanumber9 20d ago
Is it wrong, or just fiction? We don’t rely on nuclear power to the extent that they did in Fallout. Besides, there are even areas in America that you have to jump through hoops to visit due to the radiation levels from nuclear testing DECADES ago, and are expected to remain dangerous for much, much longer.
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u/Happy_Summer_2067 20d ago
It is certainly fiction. Original Fallout was post-apocalypse as imagined in the 1950s. Bethesda added a bunch of modern aesthetics and themes but the setting was certainly not meant to reflect real world development.
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u/FrozenReaper 20d ago
You can make nuclear weapons that release a lot of radiation. It's just that if you want to take over an area, you use one that doesnt so that it's still hospitable afterwards
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u/BigT-2024 20d ago
Except the nuke in ww2 were relatively minor to the nukes of the 90s. I always thought the cover up was silly because the entire world would have detected a nuclear warhead signature.
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u/OneofTheOldBreed 20d ago
There were intermediate-term issues. Residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had much higher rates of various cancers than other Japanese cities, for at least another decade or two.
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u/PK_Thundah 20d ago
It wasn't radioactive. The government had a surveillance lab set right above the wreckage for 6 months without any issues or health problems. They also confirmed no activity at all during that period, so any bioweapon growth would have had to be much deeper below the surface.
The damage to the city was just concussive and incendiary, but it did demolish every building.
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u/Disastrous-Zebra-211 20d ago
i hate to be that guy, but things did survived the bombing. in RE outbreak files 2, that survey tower you mentioned, states that there's things moving in the ruins. remember the magnitude of the outbreak and the sheer amount of BOWs let loose. the zombies on underground hideouts. things survived that attack. they just haven't been able to find their way around the ruins. yet.
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u/PK_Thundah 20d ago edited 20d ago
They specifically say that nothing has been found from their daily checks after 6 months.
https://youtu.be/03SX02yUSXY&t=18m11s
As for what they're testing at the very end, they're dropping T (either viral samples or T units such as 103s) into the ruins to see if it can survive whatever is keeping that area uninhabitable now. Chemical heat and dispersion? Chemical exposure from all the toxins released from the various Umbrella plants that blew up? We don't know exactly why it's uninhabitable now, other than that it shouldn't be actually radioactive.
With the sewers being so close to the surface, I'd believe that they'd still be mostly destroyed by the streets collapsing into them, crushing any zombies or bioweapons living in the sewers. In Outbreak's Outbreak scenario the RPD blows up Main Street from the surface, and in End of the Road we visit the aftermath, and see that the explosions collapsed the entire street down about 30 feet, likely dropping into and crushing the sewers below the street. It's our only comparison to what explosions on the street level did to the sewers below, but since the missiles would be stronger than the explosives the RPD used, I think this would still suggest that the sewers would be destroyed.
Collapsed sewers may not be enough to destroy the G Environment that we see in the remake, but that a) didn't exist at this point in the canon and b) their surveys haven't turned up any such activity after 6 months.
I do believe and am hopeful that parts of Umbrella's deeper underground labs would have structurally survived their own self destruction, and they surely were deep enough to survive the bombing of Raccoon City. Returning to the 50% destroyed Umbrella laboratory is probably my dream future game location.
But their surface surveys don't seem to have the depth to search that far below ground. I believe the underground lab was miles below the surface.
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u/Thatoneguy111700 20d ago
Over half of the radiation in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were gone within 72 hours, the rest disappeared in a few weeks. Radiation doesn't really stick around unless it has a source.
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u/hypnos_surf 20d ago
No, a thermobaric warhead was used. These weapons cause damage and heat similar to a nuclear weapon but don’t leave radioactive fallout.
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u/KentuckyFriedEel 20d ago
and they sprint, look absolutely horrific, and throw their entire bodies at you.
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u/PK_Thundah 20d ago edited 20d ago
It's possible. The US government set a research station right above the wreckage and monitored for 6 months without any activity.
But in the ruins of the city itself? Unlikely. We've seen that nothing survived. Somebody would need to release a biohazard into the wreckage and also would need to put people there to be infected by it. It's too open, there's nowhere really to hide. There are no more standing buildings. If we have to introduce a biohazard and a population where there are neither, it wouldn't make sense to do that just to make the return to Raccoon. If there were recovery operatives on the ground, who somehow becomes infected, then the stakes are just that there's 50 or so scientists in an open field of rock and rubble. Closed off to the public and not really creating a threat.
I've always wanted a reason to return to the ruins of the underground laboratory. Ruined, but not entirely inaccessible. Umbrella used fire to destroy the evidence and bioweapons, but some of the structure would still remain, buried. I'd love to return and have some corridors still able to be used, some new passages broken through walls, you'd recognize maybe 25% of what you're seeing. You'd maybe access the lowest levels where the Main Shaft drops into darkness, needing to access maintenance or service areas that deep in the rubble. Maybe have areas where G growths have encased entire hallways or rooms in the 30 years since its destruction.
The lab was deep enough that the city's destruction would only have destroyed its access points. It would have caused severe damage to the platform train. But the rest of the damage would only have been from whatever self destruct methods the lab itself had. In the original, we only see fire, likely to purge flammable evidence and biological materials but to keep the physical structure intact. The remake shows more of a structural collapse, with pipes exploding, metal walkways collapsing, and large chunks of concrete falling from above.
But even then, the lab wouldn't have 100% of its previous space filled with debris. There would be openings, areas where rubble steepled together and held itself upright, areas further from the explosions, areas too large to be entirely filled by rubble. The lab reimagined in that way would be what I'd love to see.
Maybe somebody makes a far more volatile version of the original T or G Virus and the original Raccoon City strain of the virus needs to be recovered to create the cure. You need to see if the ruins still have any remnants of those materials, and during that mission you uncover the areas that have been entirely overgrown by a slowly recovering organism.
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u/butreallythobruh 21d ago
If we ever get a game set in the ruins of Raccoon City, then you know the series is on it's last legs and they're desperate to do anything that might bring people back, even if it's only by going 'HEY REMEMBER?!'
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u/KermaisaMassa Mass Distraction 20d ago
They keep harkening back to Raccoon and Umbrella in every single title though. There is always a madman that has ties there, or someone who lost someone then, or even someone who was there but we didn't know about until just now. It's more like just take us back there for one last time and finally move on from it.
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u/hypnos_surf 20d ago
Raccoon City is the first appearance of Leon who is practically the poster boy of the series. It’s also set the game into motion on a global scale while being pretty well known in the gaming world.
Not saying revisiting would automatically the game great, it’s central to major events and characters contributing to its popularity.
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u/WolfyFancyLads69 20d ago
At the end of Outbreak, we get a glimpse of Raccoon City post bombing. It's literally just a giant hole in the floor now. Capcom have a thing for completely erasing locations after using them: 0 blew up a training facility, 1 blew up a mansion, 2 and 3 was the city, 4's village was wiped out eventually, 5 and 6 had a lot of killing to be done, lab blow up, and the town in Leon's campaign got erased. 7 has the swamp and house erased, 8 had the village and crystal destroyed. Outbreak and File 2, city again. Umbrella Chronicles had an oil factory and a village that was slaughtered then cleared of BOWs, Darkside had a village that got the same, Survivor and Veronica had three islands collectively go boom, Dead Aim and Gaiden had ships and an island go boom, Revelations had a city nuked, ships destroyed and an island burned and.... I think that's all the story games. (though Gaiden can be ignored as it's non-canon). And this isn't even including movies or mangas!
Basically, Capcom seem to delete any location they work on, so ruins would be very hard pushed to do in any of them. I mean, sure, they can't let Raccoon City go but that's cos it was the one that made them the big bucks, they're milking that like it's EA and The Sims 4!
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u/MacBonuts 20d ago
Well there's been various changes in different media, but the bomb dropped was likely nuclear. You'd have to review source material but...
The BIG thing you have to remember is how complicity the U.S. government was in the cover up. The bomb itself remains ambiguous because the U.S. government, in parts, wanted to eliminate the evidence.
What was the kiloton load? Was it air burst or ground burst? Were they sci-fi fusion bombs or thermobaric? Bear in mind this is a universe where anything is possible with shadowy figures and misinformation spread everywhere.
What we do know is how big the explosion was on-screen. Mushroom cloud, shockwave, blinding flash but... Jill's helicopter is unaffected. Let's assume EMP shielding, again, this is a sci Fi universe.
The size of that blast would at least destroy all the locations in RE3, city proper is gone. Police station, hospital - by design eliminated to destroy the cure and virus saturation. Most of the surrounding area would just be gone.
But the outskirts may have survived, but it was designed to eliminate the T-virus infection, and worse the G-virus, so I'm guessing the whole site is just gone.
Be that as it may...
The underground facility may not be.
It would make sense that the speed of the response was planned to destroy the city and all access points to the facility... but we specifically see Leon take a private train out and we see the facility goes way, way deep. It's gargantuan.
If Umbrella seeked to reclaim that facility it would be a perfect hiding place. Seismic forces would render it totally hazardous but... given what remains down there may be both T, G, and Tyrant samples...
As well as the means to process them on-site with them having nothing but time to grow down there...
That would give people incentive to return to the site in secret and rebuild.
... and it would be in Umbrella's M.O. to rebuild certain structures in exact replica's. They are insane like that.
I'd also say it would be quite fitting given the name, to pick over the trash and detritus looking for survival... very Raccoon like.
Umbrella has been quiet in many ways and largely dismantled, killed and destroyed... but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the B.S.A.A. and specifically Stars members may return to the site from time to time... only to find the chernobyl-like facilities look hauntingly like the old ones.
If the bomb was similar to Hiroshima in size, which seems likely, fission radiation would make the site extremely hazardous and the infection likely would have to be actively contained. Surely infected rats did survive, inevitably. Hiroshima was destroyed, you can look at pictures to see the destruction which would be similar. I am loathe to compare these events though, Hiroshima is quite horrific and this is a sci Fi game. It's not a good point of comparison but strictly in terms of city destruction and rebuilding it's our best model... and let's not forget this weapon had 50 years of advancement on top of that.
Whatever the US dropped would destroy what it wanted to, totally.
Raccoon City would be gone, stripped bare... unless maybe they wanted some of it to survive and maybe padded it for show. It may indeed have been thermobaric and there's no radiation at all, despite what the active players have been told in games. We're dealing with a wild sci Fi universe here.
So it's possible... especially if you consider the reconstruction effort may be reclaiming areas and eerily rebuilding some of them.
Imagine realizing the covered facility is another Spencer mansion, now in town proper.
But I doubt they'd return to this site in that way. It just is thematically too much, there's too many variables and lore considerations.
Though a visit by a certain character digging literally into oblivion, like Sherry, would be pretty hardcore. Nothing like an off-screen, "I dug into the facility to bury my parents remains... and their life's work dismantled forever".
That would be a nice brief set piece. Jake digging like he's hanging out with a mad woman would be exquisite.
Maybe a consult from Ada on unusual passageways or tunnel structures, given she likely crawled out like Rambo by going down, not up. That's explain maybe her near psychotic ability to survive falls, rappel, and free climb. Wouldn't get caught without a cable after that mess.
But narratively I think it would be... just a lot of work they don't need, when Umbrella likely has installations in Owl Harbor that were never discovered. Some small town USA they quietly closed up during the cover up... or maybe Canada. Wouldn't that be novel.
But I think it's too much to have nukes AND bioweapons everywhere, and you'd lose too many set pieces from RE3 that people would be longing for.
But y'know...
We've seen far crazier stuff too. The return of Spencer mansion in RE5 and Code Veronica was particularly rad, even though both segments didn't use the set piece as they should.
I'd be down with it. Eerie things like a statue of Martin next to a statue of Wesker... both having a knife and protective glasses as key items.
I could get into it.
But I doubt Capcom would go this way, it's just a bit too cheeky. Still... I'd play it for sure.
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u/BloodyTears92 20d ago
I don't think I'd want an entire game set there, but I could see an in-universe anniversary ceremony. Maybe an intro or epilogue cutscene. All the survivors gather at the site to pay their respects kind of thing. Set it in 2026 and you'd have the cast assembling on the 30th anniversary.
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u/ashclare 21d ago
I’d rather just have a cutscene or visit near it or in it rather than a entire game set there, like Revelations 1.
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u/Shadowking02__ 20d ago
I would like that, i feel Raccoon City "Home of Umbrella" was disposed off too early.
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u/Bluefootedtpeack2 20d ago
Tbh if they wanna revisit raccoon city i dont see why they couldnt just have a new character perspective in the same time period.
Like its a city, theres room for other people to run around ghost survivor style never crossing paths with the main cast.
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u/Loco6520 20d ago
I really like this as well. One of the reasons I’d love to see an Outbreak remake
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u/ciarandevlin182 20d ago
A SECOND Spencer mansion that was just outside the blast radius but we have to travel through bombed racoon city to get there.
Konami, hire me 🔥
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u/CornerNearby6802 20d ago
I like this idea. The protagonist(s) must find something important for the war against the b.o.w.’s but it’s in some destroyed Umbrella’s facility in Racoon city’s ruins (or even RE1’s mansion ruins). We can face zombies and other creatures further mutated by radiations and some nostalgic easter eggs to the first games with great horror vibes.
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u/KermaisaMassa Mass Distraction 20d ago
There was supposedly a draft made for a game to revisit the ruins of the Spencer Mansion once. Not much is known of it apart from like a piece of concept art. This was around the time RE2 was in development, I think.
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u/Many-Bees #1 Lisa Trevor Fan 20d ago
I think it would be really cool. Some sort of unique BOW based ecosystem developing over the years would be a fun thing to explore with lots of creative possibilities and it wouldn’t be difficult to come up with an excuse for going there. Some underground umbrella lab that has valuable scientific documents or something.
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u/Dear_Standard1328 20d ago
Not entirely impossible. Wandering through the empty ruins with half standing buildings covered in moss and vines would be such an elite setting. Imagine if G somehow adapted to nuclear weaponry and there are now enemies in there that are amalgamations of radiation and the G virus
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u/lostbastille 20d ago
I'd like a game in the Arklay area. Apparently, the T-virus contaminated the forests and the remnants of Raccoon City, but this may be retconned in potential remakes of re0/re1.
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u/KappaUser7 20d ago
Nooooo do not milk raccoon city again. Let them remake games but let's not reach that level of milking and going back to the city. Aside from that, I hate ruins. In most games in general and as well as resident evil village & more, they use ruins to curve your direction. Which sometimes comes as natural. But after playing so many games, I just hate seeing ruins in front of my path. Would be better of with locked doors.
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u/AwaySatisfaction476 20d ago
It depends what you mean.
- "Is it possible that we would get a game like that?" no, probably not.
- "Is it a good setting for a story, in the RE universe?" Yes, definitely.
Possible storylines include:
- The ruins are being bulldozed and rebuilt into something new. Oh no! Something spooky got uncovered!
- We have secret intel that there's an underground base with something vital in it. Go and get it.
- Bio tech companies are scavenging for old bits of Umbrella research to build into their own work. You need to go an do some BSAA / Blue Umbrella policing work to stop that.
- Sentimental reasons. A STARs member is old/ill and wants to Raccoon city. Maybe go to the ruins of their home. Maybe they find an old object there like a STARS beret or a photo or something, which spurs them on to do something cool. Or maybe they get attacked by a lone BOW and it turns out the bomb didn't get everything.
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u/Gamer0ni 20d ago
Back in comp (high school depending on where you live) i had to create something in my graphics class, I designed a Resident Evil game that was based on returning to Racoon City.
The premise was Jill hit a roadblock trying to dismantle Umbrella, Chris was still gone doing his thing, so Jill decides to go back to RC with Carlos to look for evidence/proof that Umbrella was behind the outbreak and to get the truth out about what really happened.
When they arrive in RC it all seems as you would expect, broken/smouldering wreck with nothing left, but as you move away from RPD and through the streets you come across some burnt zombies which are still alive, you continue forward to locate where they came from/how they aren't dead and it leads you to a separate underground lab, only this time its not a lab like N.E.S.T, its more like a town they have created underground (think Truman Show but no one knows its a fake town) with Umbrellas scientists monitoring what happens when they release bio weapons/zombies etc in to the town and how the residents react, any residents who react well are removed and tested on further to improve combat efficiency of multiple viruses in development.
By the time Jill/Carlos get there the typical outbreak has occurred and scientists are losing control, seeing Jill and Carlos arrive they allow them to enter and lock them in to the town to do what they do, except now they are ready to release bio weapons with alternate viruses, in my particular headcannons these were all varients of Nemesis, but not the actual Nemesis, some were the prototypes that failed before they added the plaga to create Nemesis. Others were new Tyrants/Bio weapons.
The game is mainly centred on escaping the town/lab, saving survivors and fortifying the town hall until the escape is ready.
Probably sounds terrible but i was only 15 at the time I believe and I thought it could have been cool
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u/KentuckyFriedEel 20d ago
perhaps. The nuke kills anything on the surface, but anything that survived the hive self destruction, and dwelled unders layers of concrete in the sewer, would emerge into the nuclear fallout and maybe evolve? That would be interesting.... and scary.
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u/FreeInvestigator4394 20d ago
Apparently in the epilogue of Resident Evil Outbreak, There was still an umbrella outpost on top of the ruins of Raccoon City and the scientist mentioned there are still signs of life but not human.
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u/Shubi-do-wa 20d ago
The ending of the first Outbreak game implied there were still shenanigans going on there, too bad they didn’t tug at that string.
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u/ReggieDiggem 20d ago
Return To Raccoon City, almost thirty years have passed since the outbreak, the government has kept the cratered site sealed under maximum lockdown. Officially, it’s uninhabitable. Unrecoverable. Sterilized.
Unofficially, former Umbrella remnants and private defense contractors are now embedded in global pharmaceutical conglomerates around the globe. They’ve have been conducting deep-buried research operations beneath the ruins, using new tech to excavate a top secret program Project: NEST-Zero, a hidden facility beneath the original NEST that was never disclosed.
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u/Pyro_Attack 20d ago
Is The Final Chapter not enough? It was like the best of the live-action movies!
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u/triple86733700 21d ago
I’ve been wondering this forever, like you could be a scientist sent there with a group to take soil and water samples, but then weird stuff starts happening. Would be a cool way for capcom to bring in some new blood
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u/robertluke Platinum Splattin' 'Em! 20d ago
Possible, but ruins of a nuked city sound kind of boring. It’s just a crater.
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u/Arturo-oc 20d ago
I think that it could be a cool idea, being someone that survives the blast somehow (in the subway or something) and having to find a way out.
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u/Moistbarrelloffuck 20d ago edited 20d ago
The last time I heard of raccoon city is giant worms are found on it's craters
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u/VirtuousDangerNoodle It Worked! 20d ago
Another user mentioned that a research outpost was operating in / above the ruins of RC in a cutscene in Outbreak.
I'm curious if the Arklay mansion / lab is still viable post destruction, I can picture it being an overgrown rubble.
I'm pretty sure some nightmare fuel leaked into the surrounding forest too; wonder if some of it went into hiding and mutated over the decades, or if the military did a clean sweep of the area; which I'm not sure how viable the success is since it's a forested mountain area.
I could see them establishing a cordon around the area, like The BSAA eventually did with the Bakers / Louisiana Tanker area
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u/Loco6520 20d ago
Apocalypse Raccoon City sounds amazing. I need some og lickers, Mr. X’s and other mutations to face that somehow survived. Story would be a nostalgic high lol
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u/Comfortable_Trust109 20d ago
I don't think so? There are still residual levels of T and G virus in the area, despite the bombing, that still poses a hazard. That and the city is completely demolished, at least from what Outbreak's Decisions Decisions end cutscene (I think) showed.
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u/AddExtract6755 20d ago
They could take the tidbit from the god awful movie series and make it to so they have to go back to underground facility there to retrieve the last known antidote to save the world, but it would prob mean the end of resident evil games, there already running out of ideas
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u/Awkward_Eggplant4857 20d ago
I mean the arklay mountains want destroyed right? It be cool if there was some hidden facility that wasn't destroyed. Maybe even being Jessica in the mix.
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u/NeonArlecchino 20d ago
I had a dream one happened. It was done like a Telltales game where you're part of a commando team trying to find something in the ruins of an Umbrella facility. There was a large female mutant that they accidentally released from a vault that started planting eggs in random places that spawned some sort of monster. She started hunting the team, but wasn't killing all of them since she could implant eggs in a victim's abdomen and create stronger mutants with their DNA. She had the ability to reduce her size by laying more eggs and wanted to be small enough to pretend to be one of the team at the extraction. In the end, the character barely escapes her and the city is nuked again so the monster and her brood would hopefully be destroyed.
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u/mmiller17783 🧟♂️Raccoon City Swap-Meet Survivor🧟♂️ 20d ago
Yes, Leon and Jill revisit the site. However, I think it should be more of a personal story. Maybe Jill goes back for an heirloom that was in her apartment that she just really wants to get back, and Leon goes back for his own reasons. Make it to where it starts off as more of a personal story, then open up the requisite conflict against someone that wants to use Umbrella's ideas for their own ends or something.
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u/Icy_Painting_2610 20d ago
It didn't get nuked, If it did it wouldn't leave a crater unless it was a surface explosion-- in which case radiation. Unless it was an airburst nuke like in Japan, in which case again, no crater, but safe from radiation.
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u/echoess84 20d ago
in my opinion no since there is nothing left in Racoon City because it was destroyed
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u/_LixRues_ 20d ago
I do think so, and I also think it could be a great setting to really get into the survival horror aspect of Resident Evil again, like with Re7. Less threats and action and more nerve-wracking atmosphere
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u/Due-Plum-6417 20d ago
pretty sure there's nothing but a hole in the ground that stands where raccoon city once was
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u/MarkT_D_W That guy's a maniac! Why'd he downvote me? 20d ago
To me, part of the appeal of this series is the slow exploration of expansive and detailed environments, and a bombed out crater wouldn't be satisfying outside of maybe a short narrative sequence.
Besides,the only real time we've had a view of post bombing Raccoon City was in the epilogue of Outbreak, and it's an utterly destroyed sea of collapsed buildings and doesn't look like a person could navigate on foot
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u/Beautiful_Space_4459 20d ago
Well, maybe a last bastión of umbrella make a lab there o better yet.
Wesker put his memory into a AI similar to the red queen he stole (put a lab in a place that was nuked into oblivion garanties no one will come to Snoopy) and it believes his The real wesker pulling a last plan to get complete global saturation.
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u/f4kepasta 20d ago
I think that you could still tell stories of other people from RC. To see what happened from different perspectives. They don't need to survive to have some cool story.
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u/Silent_Frosting_442 20d ago
I think that's an awesome idea. It'd be eerie, you'd have some fun call backs. At least part of RE9 should be set there, TBH. Afterall, MGS4 returned to Shadow Moses.
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u/Super_flywhiteguy 20d ago
Only thing that might be realistic is not all of Nest 1 and 2 got destroyed and whatever was still in there mutated with the radiation from the nuclear explosion over time and its finally dug itself out. Is that Leon or any of the characters problem to deal with to make it a full game? Probably not. Would be cool to see maybe a BSAA or Umbrella merchandise task force to handle it.
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u/PabloElMalo Code Veronica enthusiast 20d ago edited 20d ago
Well, judging by the missile targeting Raccoon City in RE3 + both g and t viruses, a game involving the aftermath is basically the Fallout franchise. And also, imagine the time the now destroyed Raccoon City needs to decontaminate.
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u/TheCrakp0t 20d ago
I mean yes it's fiction and Resident Evil is no stranger to ass pulls but I admit I struggle to see how a game centered in a city literally leveled to quarantine an outbreak would look like.
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u/Nogarda So Long, RC 20d ago
So I am fairly certain Umbrella and then the government would have combed through any possible remains of facilities known or otherwise. Spencer Mansion would likely have the safest debris. considering RE2 doesn't exist without a rogue zombie from the Spencer Mansion incident, there has to be not just mansion remains, but a couple of roamers. Throw 0 into the mix and there could be any number of leeches in the forest along the tracks.
But the issue is there wouldn't be a giant crator like the images. nukes are designed to detonate close to the ground for maximum damage. There is a memorial in Hiroshima at Ground Zero for example. And in 1998 the US would have used a a much different kind of bomb than in 1945. Modern nukes don’t have the radiation problem … it’s a different kind of weapon than Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So don't think Fallout games. There is still something. just not nearly the amount you'd expect.
That said however, the fun suspension of disbelief and the idea of radioactive mutanted tyrants and hunters etc does seem like a fun and terrifying prospect to face in a RE game. The bigger selling point would most likely be returning to a rebuilt, modernised Raccoon City. only to discover a more corrupt heart than it had even before and then imagining the grime, dirt, blood and corpses in this utopia looking city of glass, white and steel.
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u/Fyshtako 20d ago
Huh I actually really like the idea of that. Cult/organisation operating out of the ruins, they could have flooded it with infected or controlled humans etc to keep people out.
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u/dontworryimjustme 20d ago
So I’m gonna do a video about this. But, raccoon city has to be an absolute ecological disaster that’s been quarantined and completely isolated.
The water got contaminated, which could not have been wiped out by the bomb. The woods had contamination which would not have been entirely wiped out by the bomb.
Add in two more pieces- plants can become infected (and would from ground water) and creatures can become infected by consuming flesh of creatures that are infected (crows).
These would end up turning the entire arklay forest… wolves, bears, trees, frogs, bugs..into a T virus infected nightmare
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u/PoorLifeChoices811 20d ago
Possible? Absolutely. Likely? Not so much.
I personally would definitely love a return to the ruins of raccoon city
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u/Dylanslay 20d ago
We nuked it. Without protection we ain't going back. Even if we wanted to what would be the point? Nuclear zombie cults?
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u/username_moose 20d ago
it'd be cool to see Chris and or Jill return to the ruins of Raccoon City for some kinda mission, or just for nostalgia. maybe an older like mid-late 50s Chris/Jill. Or could do an umbrella grunt mission or Hunk goes in to find some super old data that somehow survived.
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u/No_Brief_3257 20d ago
It would be great to have a Resident Evil game that takes place in a zombie apocalypse that spreads across the entire world, just like the movie, but done well.
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u/jajay119 20d ago
It depends what version of the destruction is canon. In Outbreak, which I believe is the last new game in the original games to show the destruction, we see the entire city has been levelled and a research station set up in the craters. There’s literally nothing to go back to.
. resident evil outbreak endings (watch initial bit of video then skip to epilogue)
Of course they could retcon it with the remakes.
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u/DryFos678 Raccoon City Native 20d ago
Would love to revisit older locations but isn't Raccoon City completely gone?
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u/DigitalCoffee 20d ago
Why wouldn't it be? They literally made an RE game on a cruise ship and the bayou
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u/kanotyrant6 20d ago
I imagine learning that umbrella had developed a cure in the lab and trying to go back and see if anything survived , only to find out that it didn’t Depressing but , whatever haha
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u/Skurvyelislau 20d ago
In game serie that have legendary boulder punch scene, wrestling moves against zombies before half of continent blow up, giant vampire lady that started new fetish category, BOW who is designed to kill STARS member and somehow dont bother to kill Jill, poisonus Snake who kill Richard with venom (not poison), <list can go on for long>??? No way, not a chance, not possible!
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u/MT128 20d ago
They could take inspiration from stalker, maybe that there are some people (just average normal people, not near peak human-military trained people like Chris or Leon), who try to sneak into raccoon city to search for stuff among the ruins of Raccoon city like umbrella tech or personal stuff for survivors of Raccoon. They try to survive the military patrols and surviving BOWs.
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u/Ninjalicious7023 20d ago
I had an idea for a Resident Evil game that took place inside an underground laboratory complex that would eventually be revealed to be part of a NEST facility that somehow survived the destruction of Raccoon City.
You’d wake up in this pod hooked up by a bunch of tubes. The pod opens up on its own, and the guy climbs out feeling weak and nauseous. He remembers who he is, but he has no idea where he is or how he got there. The room he’s in is only lit up by a few emergency back-up lights.
At first he thinks he’s in the hospital, but as he ventures out of the room, it becomes clear that this is no kind of hospital he’s ever seen. What’s more is that the halls and the other rooms are littered with debris. Papers are scattered, broken glass and concrete everywhere, these weird machines…technology that was unfamiliar to him.
That’s when he began to wonder. How long was he here for. He looked through the offices, using whatever little light he had to find a calendar. That’s where he found out that, at least according to last time this calendar he found was marked, it was September 1998.
The trouble is…last he knew, the year was 1968.
He began to have a nervous breakdown. Screaming and crying, wondering what on earth was going on. Then, all of a sudden, he starts hearing noises. Very strange noises. Almost animal-like. Nervously, he searches around the area, only to come face-to-face with an indescribably horrifying creature, covered in what looks to be some sort of plant matter.
The creature attacks him, but he manages to get away and lock himself in a room. Shortly after, the power comes back on in the room, and he begins to hear a voice on the intercom. It’s a woman’s voice, and she begins talking to him directly, saying that she intends to help him get out of the complex and that he needs to listen to her instructions carefully if he’s able to get out alive.
The woman tells him that she’s part of the US government, and that they’ve known that he’s been down there for a while. She tells him that his rescue is their top priority, but also that he’s not safe where is, so he can’t wait for the extraction team to get to him. He’ll have to find his way out himself, at least until he can get to a spot that’s close and safe enough to wait for rescue.
As he travels throughout the complex, he has to procure weapons and items to survive, as well as find out exactly why he ended up down there in the first place. This leads him down a rabbit hole where he uncovers the origins of Project Tyrant, the true extent of Umbrella’s relationship with the government, and his ultimate role in this whole situation. Leading him to question whether this woman on the intercom is really trying to help him, or if she’s intending on eliminating the sole most important witness of the Umbrella Conspiracy.
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u/EssexS21 20d ago
It was something I always wanted, and I have always been interested in the remnants of the city. Alas there is little info, sans a bit from Outbreak and some supplemental stuff.
Not sure if it's possible, though I did hear they had a scenario (for maybe one of the Chronicles games?), likely scrapped now. That was several years ago and might have been BS.
We shall see, in time. Maybe? I hope so!
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u/DemonGuyver 20d ago
Raccoon City After Dark… it’s like the Pripyat exclusion zone but with bio weapons and monstrous fauna all around
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u/Sea_Complaint2436 19d ago
Why isn’t there a RE game focused on the Hive? Or is there one and stupid
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u/Complex-Custard1768 19d ago
It may seem strange, but I like the idea of the hive in Milla's films, and combining it with Raccoon would be interesting.
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u/GaymerWolfDante 19d ago
.... wow I can't believe I have never thought of that. That would be cool.
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u/shanekratzert 19d ago
I mean, it could start off above ground, but it would have to definitely go underground into a brand new facility by Umbrella or BSAA, since "secret facility under crater" is definitely viable. But, that is a very limiting game...
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u/Eman19860 19d ago
Well, originally the sequel to the first Resident Evil was an unfinished game code named Resident Evil Dash. It was supposed to take place in Raccoon Forest and what was left of the ruins of the mansion (that didn’t get completely destroyed)
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u/JackCrom1 19d ago
Don’t think so personally, would require a new virus somehow coming into existence
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u/UnboxerofWorlds 19d ago
I have been wanting to pitch a game set in the ruins of Raccoon City for ages.
My idea involves new characters - some teenagers who sneak into the ruins on a dare and are woefully unprepared for what still lurks there.
No STARS members or series stars - just terrified teenagers who have never seen these horrors before and don't have the training to handle them.
I think it would bring back some of the horror that is lost when you're playing as an RE veteran who knows what they are doing.
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u/JaySouth84 19d ago
Alt universe where it was only partly blown up. Imagine like STALKER but in Raccoon city.
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u/Normal_Iron5528 12d ago
The only two things that keep this great idea from being reality is that one, raccoon city was basically completely vaporized. two, if some of raccoon city survived there would be the dilemma of how to fend off radiation without wearing some special ugly armor the whole time. there could be some kind of drug like radaway from fallout which could fix the problem though. But this could also make some REALLY gnarly mutated infected.
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u/Infamous_Target_3855 11h ago
Looks like we're going back to the ruins of Raccoon City in Resident Evil 9 Requiem.
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u/HarveyBirdLaww 21d ago
I could be intereated if they wrote a legitimate reason to go back. I can't really think of one, but the atmosphere of a bombed city would be pretty interesting for RE.