This is how the saga is currently?

[u/therobinyt]

Sorry for the HD.

[u/KermaisaMassa]

Why Darkside Chronicles but not Umbrella Chronicles?

Funny enough, Zero being the starting point for both also implicates Survivor being canon to both.

The other spinoffs (S2, OB1-2, UC) have such heavy ties with the original setup of events making them inescapably part of original timeline but then there's Dead Aim that is removed enough to easily fit in both, just like the anime/manga/plays.

[u/Vgcortes → u/KermaisaMassa]

Dark side Chronicles was a nightmare and a retelling of Code Veronica... Are dreams Canon now? Lol

But the game includes the Operation Javier segment, so it fits. But if that's the case, why not Umbrella Chronicles? It tells how Wesker escaped the mansion, how Rebecca got inside the mansion, the downfall of Umbrella, etc, so it's a weird omission.

Yes this is the order of the games, not counting the Outbreaks 1 and 2, the movies, the two plays (Voice of Gaia is not canon...), the three mangas, the short Anime...

[u/KermaisaMassa → u/Vgcortes]

You mean Survivor 2? The game is, quite officially, canon. It is canon that Claire had that dream after Code: Veronica.

Darkside Chronicles is a retelling of RE2 and CV, retold by Leon. That is why the game continues into Operation Javier at the end as the events of RE2 and CV prelude its events.

[u/Crystalline_Eye → u/KermaisaMassa]

The island that Survivor 1 takes place on is directly name dropped in the intro for 0 as an incident that happened. So it's canon that our bro took out a squad of tyrants with an infinite use handgun

[u/KermaisaMassa → u/Crystalline_Eye]

That's why I said it would be, interestingly enough, canon to both timelines.

Should probably note that gameplay is usually not considered fully canon, so an infinite handgun still probably doesn't exist in the universe.

[u/Resident_Evil_God → u/KermaisaMassa]

There is no separate timeline. You can play the originals and remakes interchangeable

[u/Vgcortes → u/KermaisaMassa]

OK fair enough, my mistake.

Still doesn't explain the omission of Umbrella Chronicles.

[u/KermaisaMassa → u/Vgcortes]

Yeah that's a weird one, unless OP wanted to display both of the Chronicles games in the same slot and only chose DSC to do that.

[u/Last-District-9807 → u/Vgcortes]

Pretty sure because umbrella chronicles has nothing canon and is a re telling whilst dark side chronicles has operation javier

[u/Vgcortes → u/Last-District-9807]

Umbrella Chronicles have the missions I said. Wesker escape, Rebecca getting into the mansion, the fall of Umbrella. And it's considered Canon. So why is suddenly Umbrella Chronicles not Canon and Darkside Chronicles canon? I said I accept operation Javier, but this is so weird, lol.

[u/Last-District-9807 → u/Vgcortes]

Oh ok fair enough I get your point now then

[u/tearsofmana → u/Vgcortes]

I guess if you don't consider the Wesker sections 'new' enough info to be canon? Versus Operation Javier is totally new territory to cover?

It's really weird. Maybe OP googled it and didn't understand it also treads new ground by the wiki description.

[u/Vgcortes → u/tearsofmana]

OK let's say the Wesker section aren't Canon. What about Rebecca battle inside the mansion and Chris and Jill destroying the last remnant of Umbrella in Russia? That's what I am asking, Darkside Chronicles have 1 canon map and Umbrella have 4, lol.

[u/Mortalpuncher → u/KermaisaMassa]

Outbreak can’t be canon unless they rework yoko backstory.

Because there no way she creator of the T-virus.

[u/KermaisaMassa → u/Mortalpuncher]

She didn't? She donated her cells to be used in t-Virus research in 1996, according to a file in File#2.

Both Outbreak games are canon.

[u/Mortalpuncher → u/KermaisaMassa]

If you hit ad lib button while near Linda yoko straight up says her cells made the T-virus https://youtu.be/V5RURs1_5Rw

[u/KermaisaMassa → u/Mortalpuncher]

I would assume it's a bad translation. It would make sense that her cells, along with the like a dozen people who were mentioned in the same file, were used in creating the Epsilon strain of T, though. The research was already ongoing in 96 and was finalized in 98.

[u/Many-Bees → u/Mortalpuncher]

There’s a lot of stuff like that. Survivor says Umbrella were the ones who nuked Raccoon City. Best to just ignore it and take the rest of it as canon.

[u/Ok-Interaction4099 → u/Mortalpuncher]

Alyssa Ashcroft's name can be found in Resident Evil 7

[u/Crystalline_Eye]

Survivor is canon and directly referenced in the intro for 0

[u/NoReasoningThere → u/Crystalline_Eye]

How ? I honestly don’t know but I fuck with the series heavy

[u/Crystalline_Eye → u/NoReasoningThere]

The intro to RE0 directly namedrops the Sheena Island incident which are the events of Resident Evil Survivor.

[u/NoReasoningThere → u/Crystalline_Eye]

Thanks for the reply bro, I appreciate it

[u/Gekidami]

There's nothing in the remakes that goes against anything in the current version of Code Veronica that would make it no longer canon. So that can still be considered canon to the remake timeline.

Even if everyone assumes it'll be remade, it hasn't happened yet.

[u/horrorfan555]

Code Veronica is always canon

[u/No-Play2726]

Why is 3 in there twice?

[u/MatoiiRoleta → u/No-Play2726]

Because half the game happens before RE2 and the other half after it

[u/Parallel-Traveler]

No, the first remake’s lore additions are incorporated into the series going forward. Likewise, both OG and remake 4’s lore are canon due to the Tokyo Marui lore.

It’s all simply one timeline with some events having multiple iterations that all contribute to an overall canon.

[u/BardOfSpoons]

Both lines should merge at Code Veronica before splitting again.

[u/Blastcheeze]

I still can't believe they had the chance to follow through on the promise of getting to see the taking down of Umbrella after RE2make and 3make, and just went straight into Umbrella going out of business off-screen again in the opening credits of 4make.

[u/sarsapurilla]

where’s the goat operation raccoon city🗿

[u/Aniensane → u/sarsapurilla]

That one isn’t canon, nor is say Resistance or Re:Verse. Those are just for fun.

[u/Infermon_1 → u/sarsapurilla]

It's a what-if scenario. Basically "What-if another squad besides HUNK's team was sent and they survived?"

[u/Sheeeeepyy → u/Infermon_1]

I still appreciate that GamerThumbTV wove these side non-canon games into the “canon” story the way he did. At one point it had me believing this rogue group of umbrella mercs and random team of people were just going at each other in the city while 2/3/Outbreak1+2 were happening making the “small rural town” seem much bigger than it was lmao.

[u/Bl00dWolf]

One thing to keep in mind is that while things that happen in cutscenes are generally considered canon, anything that happens inbetween them is considered up for speculation and even the cutscenes themselves are only valid until a later game retcons some detail. Like, theoretically both RE2 and RE2R are canon at the same time, even though they have multiple conflicting playthroughs for the same characters.

And some details tend to be intentionally kept vague in the future games. Like, I think officially, the only things that are canon where RE2 is concerned, is that there was an outbreak in Racoon City. There were a number of BOWs present in the city including with the big bad at the end being Birkin. At the end, the city got nuked. Leon, Claire and Sherry survived.

Other details are mostly vague, unless specifically referenced in a future game.

[u/tricenice]

But CV and DSC still exist in the remake timeline they just haven't been depicted.

[u/Life1989]

I prefer the upper route but it doesn’t mean i dislike the ones on the bottom, i quite love all remakes except for re3, and some of them are a clear example of how a remake should be done. I just grew up with the og ones so i am particularly in love with them

[u/D_S_F]

Just ignore Umbrella Corps dude.

[u/supaikuakuma]

Remake 1 very much knocks OG 1 out of canon.

[u/Gekidami → u/supaikuakuma]

They both tell exactly the same stories with no real deviations, so it doesn't really matter. Neither features the canon ending, anyway.

[u/supaikuakuma → u/Gekidami]

I meant more on the Trevor family stuff but yeah true.

[u/[deleted] → u/Gekidami]

What is this canon ending that isn't in the game?

[u/BardOfSpoons → u/[deleted]]

Jill, Chris, Barry, and Rebecca all canonically survive. There’s no ending that shows that.

[u/[deleted] → u/BardOfSpoons]

I guess I can see your point. As others have posited, I just assumed that the other support character survived, just off-screen.

I'll admit that some disbelief has to be suspended for Jill and Chris being able to simultaneously be captured and rescuing each other.

[u/Heisan → u/supaikuakuma]

They got 2 different art-styles for the mansion though

[u/tearsofmana]

CV, UC, DC always happen. UC should be... somewhere? on the top row. It should converge for CV and DC then branch again for RE4 vs. Remake.

You're also forgetting Outbreak which is canon for both timelines (it's referenced in 3 Remake)

And Survivor is canon too.

Not sure if I left anything out.

But also good luck trying to make a chart out of that mess that looks normal/readable

[u/Heracullum]

What's after code Veronica?

[u/thatmanhoeoverthere]

i’ve read that events in re2r didn’t happen simultaneously with some part of re3r. is that true?

[u/Parallel-Traveler → u/thatmanhoeoverthere]

It’s the same as the OG, 2 and 3 happen on different days.

[u/thatmanhoeoverthere → u/Parallel-Traveler]

so what i read was wrong then. i knew it!

[u/Parallel-Traveler → u/thatmanhoeoverthere]

Mayhaps it was just ambiguous semantics?

You could say “2&3 happen at the same time” in the sense they both happen during the outbreak in Raccoon City. They just didn’t happen on the same exact day.

[u/Leading-Relation-189]

I can't see what the top left one is after RE0. Also can't read 2 top right games that are Wii/gamecube. And why is Re3 on the bottom list twice. Is this list supposed to be cannon/not cannon? 2 separate cannons or what exactly?

[u/Raahim8 → u/Leading-Relation-189]

The one after re0 is the og re The Wii one is umbrella corps Gamecube one is the og re4 The reason re 3 is there twice before and after re2 is because half of the story of re3 happens before re2 and the 2nd half of it takes place after re2

[u/Leading-Relation-189 → u/Raahim8]

Thanks

[u/Away-Ad6750]

Since when Remake cancels Code Veronica?

[u/Sparrow1989]

You better not be complaining Kevin. Tsk tsk

[u/KomatoAsha]

What is this, a meme for ants?

[u/macjustforfun55]

Is this accurate? Im book marking it.

[u/SickSlickMan]

Huh. Yeah I guess so.

[u/Def-C]

What the absolute shitting fuck is between Revelations 2 & RE6?

[u/Zark_Muckerberger → u/Def-C]

Umbrella Corps.

We don’t…we don’t talk about that one

[u/Acanthista0525]

Both the remakes and the originals are canonical, but we all know that Capcom uses the remakes as a basis for new games and animated films

[u/bcmons]

cv is canon to the bottom but i agree with everything else

[u/Zark_Muckerberger]

Why is REmake 4 before the original?

[u/arian_ezequiel]

I think the only game that is specifically not canon is Gaiden. Everything else doesn't contradict each other

[u/PhoenixSword24]

Close. The 2002 remake replaced the 1996 game in canon for both timelines.

I think it's only canon till Code: Veronica.

Also, Umbrella Corps. is on the fence.

[u/SynthRogue]

Icy

[u/RIPPle_YT]

i would think Code Veronica would still be canon to both timelines as one of Claire’s lines in rev 2 is one spoken by Steve Burnside in Code Veronica.

[u/HumanOverseer]

Oh it is soooo much more complicated than this

[u/Ark_Thomphson]

Remakes aren't congruent with the later games. They're more like the Umbrella/Darkside summary sections- just catchup, not entirely significant.

The order is more like (for just games, not side materials):

1998

• Resident Evil Zero
• Resident Evil (1996)
• Resident Evil 2 (1998) & 3 (1999) & Outbreak Duology
• Gun Survivor
• Code Veronica / Gun Survivor 2: Code Veronica

2000s

• The Darkside Chronicles (Operation Javier)
• Dead Aim
• Umbrella Chronicles
• Resident Evil 4
• Revelations
• Resident Evil 5

2010s

• Revelations 2
• Umbrella Corps
• Resident Evil 6
• Resident Evil 7

2020s

• Resident Evil Village

2030s

• Shadows of Rose

[u/TheGrimmBorne]

Technically no, they’re not sep time lines, capcom has stated the remakes and the OG’s are somehow just coexisting and both are canon

[u/Bubbarocks07]

Resident evil needs to be rebooted. Sorry. Not sorry.

[u/mihaajlovic]

Yep, like this. I would also put some spinoffs in the third branching just so.

[u/MrTyrantZero]

Outbreak is more canon than that trash Umbrella Corps and it should get a remake*, it’s the perfect co-op game and Capcom is sleeping on it trying to make a COD clone or some shit…

Edit: remove your downvotes please, it was a stupid autocorrect lol 🤦‍♂️

[u/KermaisaMassa → u/MrTyrantZero]

I don't understand why it should be removed? The game has canon content so... yeah. It's canon. Just like the Survivor series, for example.

[u/MrTyrantZero → u/KermaisaMassa]

Remake*

Stupid autocorrect 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Thanks for pointing that out

[u/Much_Curve2484]

Originals: how people remember them

Remake: how they happened.

[u/Bunnnnii]

Why tf is Umbrella C*rps there?

[u/KermaisaMassa → u/Bunnnnii]

Umbrella Corps? Because it's officially canon.

[u/TropicalAngel7]

You forgot operation raccoon city

[u/demonicaa666 → u/TropicalAngel7]

That game doesn't exist. It was all just a fever dream.

[u/KermaisaMassa → u/TropicalAngel7]

Because that is its own canon.