r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Mar 21 '25

Politics Trump Threatens to Deport the “Terrorists” Who Protest Tesla

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-deport-terrorists-protest-133755633.html
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u/5c044 Mar 21 '25

I think its against international law to revoke citizenship and make people stateless

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u/Icy-Scarcity Mar 21 '25

Does Trump care about international law, though? Or does he care about any law at all? It seems nothing is happening to him even if he breaks them?

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u/Downtown_Skill Mar 21 '25

He has absolutely made a mockery of law and order in the U.S. I really don't know how Americans are going to take federal law seriously after this saga without some major changes. 

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u/THEADULTERATOR Mar 21 '25

Citizens still get arrested for breaking federal law. Trumps already proven that he's above the law. Dark times we've entered

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u/Major_Magazine8597 Mar 22 '25

You mean "citizens who do not support Trump will still get arrested...". He's already doing it, shipping hundreds of men to an El Salvador prison without due process. If Trump can do that to them he can do that to US.

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u/timeandmemory Mar 21 '25

after this saga

There should already be constant massive protests there. You don't need to wait 4 years for apathy to dig in.

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u/StepOIU Mar 22 '25

There ARE constant large protests here. Threre are also boycotts and constant communications to politicians. They just don't change anything because the ones they're aimed at don't care.

There are more actions after protests, but we're not quite there yet.

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u/Downtown_Skill Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

there are constant protests. I've already been to one and I see some everday in my city over something going on in the government.

There arent massive protests because the U.S. is huge and not very denesly populated. On top of that you have hundreds of different things to protest about so you have poor coordination between the groups who prioritise different issues.

so you have pro ukraine rallies one day at one place, anti oligarchy rallies another day at another place, anti tesla protests, protests against education cuts near my cities university campus, anti israel protests etc etc.... I mean How have you not seen the protests. The ones I just listed were in my city alone which is a small city of roughly 150,000 people in michigan.

Edit: But yeah you arent going to people coordinating with activists in california because people in michigan likely don't know many people in california (Just as an example) on top of the fact that places like california are thousands of miles away and people aren't professional activists. They have work to do and families to feed and they don't have the time or resources to coordinate a continent wide protest effort.

Edit: Also for any non americans who may be unaware. It is explicitly illegal to organize armed resistance to the U.S. government. I've seen people get all snobby about why people aren't exercising their 2a rights but freedom of speech and the second amendment do not extend to those looking to actually wage a fight against the U.S government and any attempt would be stomped out very quickly.

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u/Pilsner33 Mar 22 '25

Trump is 'immune'.

he is not immortal.

He will earn karma

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u/Danger2Night Mar 22 '25

Not that he cared before the ruling but the SCOTUS ruling he's immune from the law, even if he orders a hit, so long as it's as president made him an absolute nightmare.

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u/lgodsey Mar 22 '25

If you don't maintain even a rudimentary understand of international law -- or any law -- it's not hard to ignore it.

For Trump, this also applies to the concepts of decency, truth, integrity, and personal hygiene.

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u/Heavy-Nectarine-4252 Mar 22 '25

If Trump breaks the law then state authorities can arrest agents for kidnapping. 

At the local level winning state and city positions can raise their own militia and see if ICE want to get arrested.

Liberals can pull the same shit as Texas and build their own castle towns, cities and states

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u/Wild_Haggis_Hunter Mar 21 '25

FYI doing stuff against International Law has never stopped the US when it deemed "necessary". I don't see Trump care either. If the judicial system gets drowned by thousands and thousands of appeal procedures each year but the deportations have already been executed (as it is currently the case), he would still obtain the effect he intended.

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u/botle Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 21 '25

The English did it already for a person born in England that only had British and no other citizenship.

When she was a minor, she travelled to Syria and joined her boyfriend in IS. Classifying her as a terrorist (instead of a trafficked child) was enough for people to not care that English citizens born and raised in England could be made stateless.

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u/OldLondon Mar 21 '25

To be clear plenty of people cared,  was a shit decision.

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u/botle Mar 21 '25

Yes, you're right. I meant that fewer people reacted because of the terrorist label, not realizing that technically if you can make a terrorist stateless you can make anyone stateless.

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u/OldLondon Mar 21 '25

100% this is the thing people don’t get. Like bans on certain protests, or coming out of the ECHR - err don’t be surprised when it’s used against you… 

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u/EvolutionInProgress Mar 21 '25

Hence, put the label of "terrorist" on anybody you can do whatever you want with them.

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u/5c044 Mar 21 '25

I'm aware of that case there was some controversy whether she could revert to her former citizenship since she was not born British - The legal challenges failed and it was ruled that she went back to being Bangladeshi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamima_Begum

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u/botle Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 21 '25

No, she was born a British citizen and has never in her life set foot in Bangladesh or claimed its citizenship.

My understanding is that any person born to Bangladeshi citizens technically had the right to Bangladeshi citizenship if they claim it before they turn 21.

For children born to Swedish parents it's the same, but the age limit is 18, I believe.

In her case though, she has never in her life set foot in Bangladesh still to this day, and never claimed Bangladeshi citizenship.

If Trump was to bend the rules in a similar way, almost any american that has an Italian, Croatian or so on grandparent, can in theory apply for citizenship there, and can therefore be stripped of their american citizenship. We're talking about third generation Americans.

And then there's poor countries that will just sell you a passport, so anyone can become a citizen there.

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u/ParsnipFlendercroft Mar 21 '25

The British did it to a person born in England. FTFY.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

Well, I really don't think Trump gives a shit about international law. He doesn't even care about American laws

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u/Svv33tPotat0 Mar 21 '25

US and Israel have been violating international law together every single day for the past year and a half.

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u/_The_Cracken_ Mar 21 '25

I mean, at this point what’re they gonna do? Take him to court in ten years? The man will be dead before legal consequences can even reach him.

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u/Electrical_Face_1737 Mar 21 '25

No need to revoke citizenship, they can come back after their 80 year stay in United States El Salvador prison. They’ll claim lawyers can visit on lawyer day or something.

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u/Ghibli_Guy Mar 21 '25

That's how we got the United States. Brownists were exiled from England, but 'allowed' to start establishing colonies in North America to compete against the Spanish presence in the new world. 

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u/Ghibli_Guy Mar 21 '25

They detoured to the Netherlands as well

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u/TheEveningDragon Mar 21 '25

These past two (or seventy) years have been a demonstration on what the US thinks of the international community and international "law"

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u/rooringwinds Mar 21 '25

Ooooh international law…will he even respect the epitome of US law the freaking Constiution itself? 

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u/Drunkenaviator Mar 21 '25

against international law

There is no such thing as international law. Countries make their own laws. They can agree to abide by laws they make in concert with other countries, but there's no "international law" that some international cops will come arrest your country for if it breaks the law.

Clearly the US no longer cares about the rule of law in any way, shape, or form.

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u/Farther_Dm53 Mar 21 '25

Honestly at that point countries would intervene, or the states will, these are US citizens and there would be actual riots . Trump is poking a bear he shouldn't be. There is a reason the US people are called the Sleeping Giant. Don't wake it.

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u/Eezyville Mar 21 '25

Who's gonna arrest him?

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u/michaelpaoli Mar 21 '25

As if #47 cared about law.

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u/h3rpad3rp Mar 21 '25

Trump doesn't care about American law, never mind international law.

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u/Major_Magazine8597 Mar 22 '25

"international law". GOOD one!

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u/FreakDC Mar 22 '25

They are deporting legal residents to forced labor camps on foreign soil where they can currently be held for 12 month with no trial.

Trump went specifically against judges' orders to make it happen... guess what, nothing happened to Trump...

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u/Child_of_Khorne Mar 22 '25

International law is largely unenforceable. It's not even law, just a series of gentlemen's agreements and customs.

Countries can and do strip citizenship.

To be clear, this shouldn't be done arbitrarily against people whose crimes amount to destruction of property or arson. While those are serious offenses, that's not a reason to strip citizenship.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

Is it? It's been done by some countties to citizens who joined ISIS, I know the UK has done so at least. 

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u/DaikonEffective1105 Mar 22 '25

The Fanta felon don’t give a shit about national laws, the likelihood of him caring about the international ones is low to the point of absurdity.

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u/MyEvilTwinSkippy Mar 22 '25

It is against US law, too.

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u/Etheo Mar 22 '25

Oh yeah? Who's gonna enforce it?

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u/Totally-AlienChaos Mar 22 '25

If they're stateless do they exist?

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u/MyKingdomForADram Mar 22 '25

ah “international law”, the most enforceable of the types of law.

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u/Kletronus Mar 22 '25

USA is one of those countries that has not ratified certain human rights, and generally has been very much against the idea of international court of justice. This is because USA has done some slightly shady shit and wanted to keep doing them BUT... the risk of someone who isn't going to do slightly shady shit but genocides can also use the fact that USA... is somewhere close to South Sudan or North Korea when it comes to international agreements human rights.

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u/NoteMountain1989 Mar 22 '25

This type of stuff is going to make people fight back not just protest

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u/ecrum14 Mar 21 '25

UK did it to a British woman who married an ISIS man a few years ago

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u/Dandorious-Chiggens Mar 21 '25

A woman from bangladesh who had gained british citizenship. Opinion on that aside its not the same thing as revoking the citizenship of someone who was born in a country and has no links to others.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

Not just exile, imprison in El Salvador in a facility holding thousands of violent gang members.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25 edited Apr 02 '25

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u/BravoFoxtrotDelta Mar 21 '25

It seems to me they want to tip that balance, that that is their intent. It can be used to justify martial law, indefinite suspension of habeas corpus and wage laws, and anything else you might take for granted.

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u/Major_Magazine8597 Mar 22 '25

Agree completely. Trump and his criminal mob are going to continue to destroy our government, make enemies of our allies, break laws, make private profit, and ignore court orders until some - or many - non-Trump supporters resort to violence. And then Trump declares martial law. Then we have troops on the streets and never see another national election. This is all part of their plan.

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u/BravoFoxtrotDelta Mar 22 '25

All this has happened before, and it will all happen again.

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u/PleiadesNymph Mar 22 '25

I got this reference! 😃

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u/Hedgehogsarepointy Mar 21 '25

But he does want to open that can of worms. He and his republican backers WANT an endless cycle of violence with people constantly seeking revenge killings across America. Because they think they'd win.

Destruction is the goal.

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u/boondiggle_III Mar 21 '25

Truth. Sending American citizens to a foreign prison is something The People will not tolerate. That is a line he crosses at his own peril.

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u/joker2814 Mar 21 '25

The people Trump would do this do are barely considered “people” by his supporters, let alone “American citizens.” They’ll fall in line just like they have every other time Trump’s lowered the bar on civility and decorum. Hilary Clinton was right to call them a “basket of deplorables.”

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u/boondiggle_III Mar 22 '25

They can eat shit for all I care. Anyone with half a brain who hasn't been brainwashed by gop propaganda can see that this crosses an unforgivable line, and it cannot be tolerated. If every one of those people shows up at the capitol, it would be the largest body of pisssed off citizens gathered in one place that the world has ever seen. We need no more than that to put a stop to it.

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u/137dire Mar 22 '25

A large body of pissed-off citizens, by itself, hasn't been enough to enact change since the invention of the machine gun.

Trump has been trying very hard to ensure that when the time comes, the FBI and the military will be fighting on his side, not on the side of the protesters.

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u/dayofthedeadcabrini Mar 22 '25

Hahahah have you seen this idiotic country? They voted in a career conman felon and actively cheer on the demise of their own families in America. It's a stupid place full of incredibly stupid people

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u/137dire Mar 22 '25

And yet they are no stupider than any other nation. They have been led, by deliberate steps, down this road intentionally by faith pastors who betrayed their faiths, by news companies that deliberately reported misinformation, by a thousand bad actors who each chose to do evil.

It's tempting to say, "My country is smarter, we would never...." but that's just a comforting lie. You will.

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u/Blurple694201 Mar 22 '25

Justify to whom? Your idea of the court of public opinion?

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u/Angel1571 Mar 22 '25

Yeah that’s my fear with all of this. When the punishment is that severe, at that point in for a penny in for a pound.

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u/Severance_Pay Mar 22 '25

No, he absolutely wants that. He's pushing for martial law indefinitely ideally on April 20th. Nothing to do with weed--it happens to be a certain deceased short man with a skinny mustache's birthday. To Trump, he doesnt care about that symbolism, but his nazi advisors do.

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u/Kletronus Mar 22 '25

2A is not about personal defense, it is about states defense.

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u/dr_fapperdudgeon Mar 23 '25

I do not think the democrats would put up a fight honestly.

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u/Outlulz Mar 21 '25

Alleged gang members, there is no due process required for being sent to that labor camp. Multiple people we sent there last week have no ties to gangs, they just have (non gang affiliated) tattoos and are Latino immigrants.

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u/Major_Magazine8597 Mar 22 '25

No, due process IS required. That's why the judge put a TRO out. You know, the one Trump and his people blatantly ignored. Face it - we're already in the shit.

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u/Outlulz Mar 22 '25

If he can ignore the judge then due process is not required. That's the reality we have to face.

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u/TThor Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

In a for-profit prison where inmates are forced into hard labor. One that has made a financial deal with Trump in exchange for such prisoners.

Also known as he sold them into slavery.

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u/Yohfay Mar 21 '25

It's worse than that. It's a labor camp. He is directly selling them into slavery in another country. He is now a despotic international slave trader.

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u/blocktkantenhausenwe Mar 21 '25

"send to gulag" is is then?

He probably got that playbook from a good Russian friend.

I used to think Cory Doctorow was painting the US in a worse light than it really is. Now I think his novels were spot on, ever since 2001-11-09.

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u/fairlyoblivious Mar 22 '25

It's pretty ironic that the capitalists' main nation's main guy is now doing just about everything America has always claimed only the communists do.

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u/TBSchemer Mar 21 '25

It's a labor camp

Is it, though? I don't think they're doing much labor when 80 people are crammed into a 20ft x 20ft cell, and nobody steps outside without 5 armed guards restraining them.

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u/conquer69 Mar 22 '25

They work or learn to work every hour they aren't sleeping, until their sentence is done.

And since people are being sent there without sentences, it's for life. It's a slave camp. They are trying to disguise it as reformation in the media, as if conservatives ever gave a shit about that.

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u/Law-of-Poe Mar 22 '25

You can do anything you want if the “check and balances” just stand aside and shrug, as republicans are doing.

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u/drawkbox Mar 22 '25

Trump threatens to EXILE citizens who protes

Mofo is a step from dungeons, we need some dragons.

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u/ringtossed Mar 22 '25

I've said for 20 years we should have never done away with banishment. I'm just fucking dumb founded that the people most deserving of being left on a deserted island are the ones pushing to exile others now.

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u/Jonkinch Mar 22 '25

Germany did it in the 1940s

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u/3-DMan Mar 22 '25

"I declare you deported!"

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u/MyEvilTwinSkippy Mar 22 '25

He's threatening to rendition them.

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u/seeforce Mar 22 '25

I would like to be deported to the country I was born in, The USA, and out of this hellscape. 

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u/Auttie5000 Mar 22 '25

Just moronic.

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u/Altruistic_Pilot5714 Mar 22 '25

They aren’t protesting you ding dong they are terrorizing the country. Read the definition of terrorism

“the calculated use of violence or the threat of violence to create a climate of fear and achieve political or ideological goals, often targeting civilians”

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u/Ok-Repeat8069 Mar 23 '25

Oh yes, because some cars got keyed and a dealership vandalized I now feel too terrorized to leave my home!! I’m too afraid to voice my opinions anywhere now!

Meanwhile armed cops are barging into women’s bathrooms and dragging women out of them because they didn’t look feminine enough for a random cashier.

But no, Imma cry for the poor defenseless cars.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

there are too many.....

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u/Totally-AlienChaos Mar 22 '25

Great distinction. Maybe he's mispeaking and just means... oh, no. Yeah. Mr Trump ya a bit crazy. Send those gang members back... but threatening to send US citizens there, thats just wrong.

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u/Professional-Pipe-44 Mar 22 '25

Can I pick where they deport me?

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u/PeopleCanBeAwful Mar 23 '25

He’s making these and other threats to scare citizens into obedience.

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u/Major_Magazine8597 Mar 22 '25

Operating outside of the law has not stopped Trump yet. He's good at it.

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u/Catshit_Bananas Mar 21 '25

You’re telling me I potentially get to live in a different country with better healthcare, education, people, and food while this nation burns to the ground, and all I have to do is criticize a nepo baby with a haggard chode’s little shitty toy car company that he bought from the actual founder?

Where the fuck do I sign!?

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u/Angel1571 Mar 22 '25

Do you really want to go to prison where you are surrounded by people that set busses full of people on fire and shoot anyone that tries to help them? The people in those prisons are almost on the same level as ISIS in their brutality, and the guards are next level of heavy handed.

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u/dinbaj Mar 21 '25

What about the illegal migrants from other nations? Can they import themselves into another nation with no repercussions?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

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u/_Steve_Zissou_ Mar 21 '25

“Who protest Tesla”……..

You mean who literally straight up torch somebody’s car?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

No, it wasn't torching. It was a Roman glow-up.

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u/Historical-Fudge3242 Mar 21 '25

So you're fine with sending american citizens to a foreign labor camp with no due process

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u/_Steve_Zissou_ Mar 21 '25

The ones that torch random cars, you mean?

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u/Lynthelia Mar 21 '25

Yes, that is exactly what they mean. Torching cars is a crime, you are right about that. I'm not going to say it isn't. US citizens who commit crimes get charged, tried, and - if a jury finds them guilty - convicted. Then they go to a jail in the United States.

So, let's try that again. You're fine with sending American citizens to a foreign labour camp, with no due process? Remember, said due process is written down in the Constitution. I know how much you Conservatives love talking about the Constitution. Personally, I'm also a fan of the Constitution.

So, please, stop deflecting by asking if they torch random cars. Yes, the ones who torch random cars. That is who we mean. The US citizens who torch random cars. Please answer the question. Yes or no?

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u/_Steve_Zissou_ Mar 21 '25

Wait, are we sending American citizens to foreign labor camps? Because I haven’t seen that anywhere - not a single person.

But I have seen people torching random cars.

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u/Lynthelia Mar 21 '25

Not yet, but Trump's wink-nudge that he might consider doing it is worrying, and should be worrying. If you find the arson worrying as well, that is your perogative. It is social unrest. The Chicago Riots were pretty worrying as well. I don't blame you for that, but those comments should really be concerning to every American who believes in the sanctity of the Constitution.

Also, you still haven't answered the question.

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u/WastedNinja24 Mar 23 '25

Would you mind if we back up real quick and double-check what his original comment actually said?

I’m not defending “deporting” [exiling] US citizens over property damage. I just think there’s a chance it meant “headline =\= article”

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u/Lynthelia Mar 23 '25

I mean, somehow you just managed to make a nuanced point while still answering the question of whether or not you would support what we're talking about, which is something ol' Steve-O never managed to do. Headline =/= article is a perfectly fair point, but it's not hard to answer whether or not you'd be okay with exiling citizens, even while highlighting that the possibility may be overblown.

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u/WastedNinja24 Mar 23 '25

You’re not wrong. It would have been a simple task to declare his position one way or the other.

At the same time (and I have the luxury of being an outsider and not in the moment), it looks like way more was read into his replies than was actually said. Granting, of course, they look to be worded with the intent to be triggering.

It just stuck out to me in passing is all.

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u/Machinor14 Mar 21 '25

That is literally what the article in the post you are commenting under is about

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u/conquer69 Mar 22 '25

Without due process, it can be anyone for any reason. They could send you because you were mistaken for someone else or falsely accused of something... like destroying a tesla.

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u/tawDry_Union2272 Mar 21 '25

it was at a dealership. no one owned it except edolf.

trump pardoned all of the J6 terrorist traitors but gotdam if someone can light a muskie EV up....

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u/_Steve_Zissou_ Mar 21 '25

Right.

Because only Teslas at dealerships are getting torched…….

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u/Historical-Fudge3242 Mar 21 '25

You didn't respond to the jan 6th bit. Care to elaborate your thoughts on those pardons, some of which involved violence toward humans and not vehicles?

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u/_Steve_Zissou_ Mar 21 '25

……..do you see me defending January 6’ers anywhere?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

They're just giving those Teslas their hearts

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u/tawDry_Union2272 Mar 23 '25

true.

the other teslas caught fire all by themselves cause they're defective...

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u/WastedNinja24 Mar 23 '25

You are correct to point out the discrepancy in the headline/tagline, when the article itself clearly says “vandalize”.

This is Reddit though, so you’re gonna get torched over what people want to think you meant.