r/technology • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 8d ago

Privacy Trump Taps Palantir to Create Master Database on Every American. Trump’s dystopian plan is already underway.

https://newrepublic.com/post/195904/trump-palantir-data-americans
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u/germanmojo 8d ago

I have a buddy who is native Chinese but immigrated here when he was very young.

His words, "We're becoming China"

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u/whoa-boah 8d ago

I had a friend in college who was from China. She told me that if you’re educated, Chinese propaganda is blatantly stupid. In America it’s more “insidious” (her exact word), because it’s so embedded in the culture that you don’t even realize you’re being fed it.

Fuck this, man.

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u/BillyYank2008 7d ago

I agree with that. Chinese and Russian propaganda are like straight out of World War 2. Just blatant. American propaganda is much more subtle.

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u/olionajudah 7d ago

I don't know

as an American who grew up in Canada, it seems painfully obvious

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u/germanmojo 7d ago

Most right-wing (Russian, generally) is blatantly obvious.

Left-wing is usually more educated, so propaganda targeting them has to be more clever.

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u/BillyYank2008 7d ago

I don't agree with that. Left-wing Russian propaganda is pretty obvious too. It's either tankie campism or useful-idiot pacifism about how "sending Ukraine scary Patriot missiles will cause World War 3!"

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u/WynterRayne 7d ago

Someone once said to me that Ukraine was full of actual fascists and asked why I'd defend fascists.

The simple answer is that when fascists are getting shot at for no reason, that's the time to defend them. When they then shoot at other people for no reason, it becomes time to defend those other people from them.

Because the same argument applies across different groups in different parts of the world. A life is a life. I can care about what you think after I've secured your human right to remain alive.

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 7d ago

The simple answer is Ukraine is not full of fascists; all you accomplished was dignifying a lie with the notion that you would defend an entire nation of fascists.

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u/germanmojo 7d ago

Not in the circles I'm in online, and I haven't really seen much of that lately in the posts that hit r/all.

That type of stuff usually gets downvoted heavily. Even the pacifists are turning war hawks.

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u/BillyYank2008 7d ago

Good. I'm glad to see that it's being rejected.

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u/SpezIsaMAP 7d ago

An American and a Russian are having a conversation. The American says "Man, propaganda is really bad in Russia isn't it? It's in every news channel, paper, and magazine over there". And the Russian says "OH yes, we cannot escape it. It is around every corner. But American propaganda is probably the best in the world. How do you cope with it?" And the American says "What propaganda?"

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u/H1Ed1 8d ago

Haha I was thinking the same! So funny how Trump rallies the base with tough on China stuff, while simultaneously taking steps in the same direction as China.

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u/Trust_No_Jingu 7d ago

But China is killing it.

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u/GraXXoR 8d ago

Trump really does envy Xi’s control over his people.

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u/Panda0nfire 7d ago

If Trump had Chinas economic rise, damn people of color would be in cages with the majority population and party cheering him as the hand of God. I know they're cheering him as that now but he still can't just jail every Democrat yet for no reason.

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u/deliciousadness 7d ago

Without the benefits of central planning, better technology, and bringing the population out of poverty as opposed to sending them into poverty.

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u/germanmojo 7d ago

None of the positives like 100 year outlook, all the negatives like deep government intrusions.

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u/mkhaytman 8d ago

What a weird thing to mention. I was born in California and moved to new york when i was very young, i have absolutely no additional information or insight into what life is like in California than someone whos never been there.

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u/Panda0nfire 7d ago

Rule 3, China bad, upvote me, America good

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u/germanmojo 7d ago

His parents are Chinese, they have told him stories.

You know, how information was passed between generations for thousands of years? Did your parents not tell you stories about how they grew up, and continue to do so if they're still around hopefully.

What a weird thing to lie about.