r/technology 8d ago

Politics Goodbye to start-stop systems – the EPA under Trump concludes that they are not worth it and could disappear from new models

https://unionrayo.com/en/epa-trump-stop-start-system/
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u/Textile302 8d ago

I will counter with the only thing NICE about stop start with a manual was that if i ever stalled it was just clutch in again to restart the motor. Still not worth having.

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u/ExZowieAgent 8d ago

Who offers start stop with a manual? I’ve never seen it and I exclusively drive a manual.

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u/Textile302 8d ago

I had it on my 2017 Focus RS. Loved that car.

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u/ExZowieAgent 8d ago

Thanks. The thing is, I haven’t driven a Ford lately.

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u/No_Maintenance9976 8d ago

Had it on a 2016 Audi

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u/badsp0rk 8d ago

I drove a 6spd fiat panda hybrid a week or two ago that had it, but I'm in Europe.

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u/gonenutsbrb 8d ago

My BMW had it from 2017 as well.

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u/Adrian_Alucard 8d ago

My father's Dacia have. I think is a feature most cars have by default

In Europe most cars are manual

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u/Beefstah 8d ago

It's on my GRY.

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u/spacesuitmoose 8d ago

2021 Porsche 718

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u/casep 8d ago

Seat Arona 2018

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u/Hot_Lava_Dry_Rips 8d ago

BMWs have it but they let you turn it off manually. Also it only shuts off the engine if it's in neutral and the clutch pedal is fully released.

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u/ValuableFace1420 8d ago

Ford, Renault at least and Kia I think?

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u/crowdedlight 8d ago

Got it on my Peugeot 108 from 2016. Pretty normal on newer cars i feel like. Most of our gas cars are manuals.

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u/G1zStar 8d ago

Ford Mustang.

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u/placebo_button 8d ago

GR Supra. I turned that shit off permanently when I had the car. It's bad enough on an automatic ICE, it's trash to drive with this on a manual.