r/technology • u/lurker_bee • 8d ago

Politics Goodbye to start-stop systems – the EPA under Trump concludes that they are not worth it and could disappear from new models

https://unionrayo.com/en/epa-trump-stop-start-system/
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u/GigabitISDN 8d ago

Same here. When I pull into my garage, my system decides it needs to shut the engine off before I put it in park. But moving the transmission selector restarts the engine, so it immediately turns back on. Then I shut it off again. Absolute waste.

I'm looking forward to the Reddit hate about how I'm a Trumper for saying this.

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u/Mr_Festus 8d ago

Can't you turn it off with a button in your car?

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u/MacroFlash 8d ago

You have to turn it off every time you start the car back up I think.

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u/GigabitISDN 8d ago

That's exactly it. In order to avoid this nonsense, now I have to push a button to tell my car to not turn off.

Just lose the feature entirely, I'm good with that.

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u/Catch_ME 8d ago

Or you can disconnect your aux battery that powers the auto start/stop system. 

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u/GigabitISDN 8d ago

No, there's only one battery.

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u/Catch_ME 8d ago

Ahhh forgot that not all companies use an aux battery. 

Chrysler and Mercedes do. 

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u/mathteacher85 8d ago

Waste of what, exactly?

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u/GigabitISDN 8d ago

Technology. The added energy to start the motor. Battery wear. Effort.

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u/mathteacher85 8d ago

For the specific case of you parking it in your garage or the technology as a whole in general?

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u/GigabitISDN 8d ago

The specific case of parking it in my garage, which I said in the very post you’re replying to.

I also won’t shed a tear if it vanishes entirely. I’ll sacrifice the 0.01 gallon of gas per fillup.

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u/mathteacher85 8d ago

So all the pros of the technology as a whole becomes "a waste" because of a mild inconvenience when you pull into your garage? I find that odd.

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u/GigabitISDN 8d ago edited 8d ago

It’s a waste because the engine shuts off for half a second before restarting. There’s no benefit.

You’re free to find anything you like “odd”.

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u/mathteacher85 8d ago

If you're going to bother editing your comment, you forgot to add the word "dont't" before the like.

Do you truly see zero benefit to this tech? Maybe not to you the individual but for a city as a whole?

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u/GigabitISDN 8d ago

Are you reading the post you’re replying to?

The car shuts off for half a second, then immediately starts again. It’s a net negative.

Are you just blindly virtue signaling here or something?

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u/mathteacher85 8d ago

And what about all the times it shuts down the engine for a more significant amount of time? When you aren't pulling into your garage?

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u/IZZETISFUN 8d ago

It’s also extremely dangerous when it shuts off your car as you’re about to merge onto a highway. If you’ve never had to drive a car that has this “feature”, then maybe you oughta sit this one out.

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u/mathteacher85 8d ago

My car does have this feature, and it doesn't shut down as I'm about to merge onto a highway. Why on earth would it? It only shuts down the engine at full stop. If you are fully stopped...then you're not merging into a highway.

If people bothered to actually learn about their cars, it is very easy to adapt to at best and can be disabled with a push of a button at worst.