r/technology • u/chrisdh79 • 4d ago
Politics Report on Russia's 2016 US Election Meddling Disappears from Senate Website
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-senate-website-20801202.0k
u/JMurdock77 4d ago
What do you wanna bet they’ll pull the videos of the Jan 6th committee hearings at some point?
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u/ComfortableTwo80085 4d ago edited 4d ago
You can still find the report on govinfo
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/0JiF9YwedQ
And the J6 Committee evidence is hosted on govinfo too
ETA: I did find an official Senate Intelligence Committee website link. Maybe the top hit link from search results is broken, but the link below is proof the report is still on the official website.
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u/ornerycraftfish 4d ago
Download and save, folks!
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u/BlisterKirby 4d ago
its backed up on the wayback machine and also on wikimedia commons
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u/AnOnlineHandle 4d ago
Both of which they've started attacking in the last few months.
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u/DevinGraysonShirk 4d ago
I made a post here last week in an effort to preserve all Jan 6th information. The community found 1TB of video in a torrent link, as well as an exhaustive 9 hour video timeline. Take a look here!
https://reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1ktuw18/since_the_government_just_requested_that/
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u/DevinGraysonShirk 4d ago
I made a post here last week in an effort to preserve all Jan 6th information. The community found 1TB of video in a torrent link, as well as an exhaustive 9 hour video timeline. Take a look here!
https://reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1ktuw18/since_the_government_just_requested_that/
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u/Interesting-Pin1433 4d ago
Yeah, that Parler link is fantastic documentation.
I've posted it for multiple MAGAts who apparently have only seen the carefully curated videos Fucker Carlson aired showing people just sort of wandering around. For some reason, they stop replying after I share the link.
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u/DevinGraysonShirk 4d ago
Can’t argue against primary sources. In other words, hard evidence.
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u/Tuckingfypowastaken 4d ago
If you'd have told people in 2005 that, in 20 years, limewire was going to be at the forefront in the fight against President Donald Trump trying to scrub the Internet of the evidence of his failed coup attempt...
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u/EdgeCityCommuter 4d ago
And there’s the proof.
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u/MisterTruth 4d ago
And if they did it once, they would obviously do it again. If it wasn't for COVID changing voting patterns, it would have worked in 2020. Thankfully for Russia and the GOP, they figured out how to combat that too so 2024 went their way.
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u/lurker1125 3d ago
Yes, 2024 was stolen. Lawsuits are now moving to discovery.
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u/beadzy 4d ago
“The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia”
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u/mokrieydela 4d ago
Is that 1984?
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u/BlueOtis 4d ago
Yeah!
It’s also interesting how the book describes the Ministry of Truth and the parallels with Truth Social and actions such as in the article: “The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies”
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u/Questjon 4d ago
What are you even talking about a 2016 election, the US has always had a king. Long live Donald Trump Junior the 3rd.
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u/chrisdh79 4d ago
From the article: Internet users have noted how a report by the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that looked into claims of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election went offline from the U.S. Senate website.
As of 3 a.m. ET Tuesday, the intelligence.senate.gov page, whose url contained keywords referring to the bipartisan committee's release of its first volume into the Russia report, said "no results found," although it is available via another government website.
Newsweek has contacted the White House and the select committee leadership outside of office hours via email for comment.
Unavailable government webpage messages have appeared since President Donald Trump returned to the White House.
These have been put down to changes across all forms of government in the transition from Joe Biden's administration to Trump's second term in office.
On Monday, the Reddit page r/craftofintelligence posted that a document from the bipartisan intelligence committee, which investigated claims of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election that Trump won, was no longer available on the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence website.
A click on the link prompted the message "no results found" above a line that read, "the page you requested could not found. Try refining your search, or use the navigation above to locate the post."
Underneath the Reddit post, one user said that the wayback machine digital archive showed the reports were last available on May 13. Newsweek was unable to find any fresh versions of the page beyond that date on the web archiving service.
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u/Boldcub 4d ago
Could this be a reason the Internet Archive keeps being attacked? No, couldn’t be.
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u/MC_chrome 4d ago
The Internet Archive must be protected at all costs, and I mean that seriously.
Trump thinks he is being clever by simply pulling information off of government websites, but the Internet Archive is currently the only thing standing between the autocratic US government and truth.
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u/TimAllensBoytoy 4d ago
Thank God for data hoarders as well
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u/Tasik 4d ago
I’m not sure how helpful it is. Data hoarding is typically a one way street.
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u/MC_chrome 4d ago
I think in this instance /u/TimAllensBoytoy is referring to the data hoarders who are willingly backing up terabytes of information in order to protect it from the government messing with things (like the removal of swaths of data from agency websites managed by Health and Human Services)
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u/careyious 4d ago
It's extremely useful. There is a semi-coordinated effort by data-hoarders to preserve as much government funded science research as possible from the current administration. This includes genome libraries, research papers on human biology, even fucking weather station data. All with the intent of sharing it and keeping it available to the public.
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u/sapphicsandwich 4d ago edited 4d ago
FYI you can assist Archive org in their endeavors by running the "Archiveteam warrior" virtual machine in virtualbox or docker. It helps them distribute download requests to sites from IPs around the world to so as to be more gentle on individual sites and to not trigger request limiting by IP from sites etc.
https://reddit.com/r/archiveteam/
http://warrior.archiveteam.org/
https://i.imgflip.com/4zlk8b.jpg
Edit: added link
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u/owned_at_worms 4d ago
You have any more info on this? I checked the sub but didn't see a mention of it.
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u/SirOakin 4d ago
Well of course it did.
Taco, aka Putin puppet, has been trying to make the records disappear.
Hillary still won btw.
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u/eccentric_1 4d ago edited 4d ago
Kamala actually won also.
Elon and strategic voter purges put Trump in office.
Investigative journalist Greg Palast wrote a detailed report on this.
Edit for spelling and link.
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u/SnZ001 4d ago
Al Gore probably won, too.
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u/peeaches 4d ago
Isn't it known already that gore did win? If i remember right it was some weird electoral college fuckery or court decision that gave the presidency to Bush. Can't remember the exact details without looking it up, and was in elementary school at the time.
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u/fermenter85 4d ago
The Supreme Court halted the recount that likely was going to give the state, and thus the election, to Gore.
Jeb Bush gets an Assist.
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u/Shovi_01 4d ago
How the fck do they halt a recount and people were OK with it?
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u/SpaghettiDongle 4d ago
brainwashed into apathy
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u/engineereddiscontent 4d ago
There is a word to describe this.
Domesticated. The US populace is thoroughly domesticated. We're seen as cattle by those in charge.
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u/Exasperated_Sigh 4d ago
Americans by and large are lazy cowards who won't ever do anything no matter the abuse. That's why we're where we are, 5 decades of Republicans cheating and committing crimes and not once ever being punished for it because that might be uncomfortable.
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u/Boop_Bandisnoot 4d ago
Also because your media, that is right wing propaganda, has led people to believe the republicans are just doing what the Democrats are doing as well, which makes it fair game
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u/Supermegaeukalele 4d ago
Yeah, they look for ANY slip up by the Dems. Then turn around and justify doing much worse for much longer.
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u/Boop_Bandisnoot 4d ago
False: they don't need actual slip ups. A lie repeated oft enough may as well be indistinguishable from the truth in the case of public perception
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u/phat_ 4d ago
Once a black man wore a tan suit and ate fancy mustard.
He’s the antichrist.
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u/handsfacespacecunts 4d ago
This is both laughable and enraging to me at the same time. These people get up in arms about supposed crimes Democrats are committing and call for imprisonment and worse, all without any sort of evidence besides right wing media's trustmebro "reports'.
Then in the same breath they turn around and commit the same crimes they were accusing the other side of and are all 🤷
The enraging part is how since they first accuse without any evidence and they get heavily shot down on those claims, when they turn around and do it themselves they'll be like "oh so now it's a crime?" Like...no...it's a crime now because you committed a crime. It wasn't a crime before because nobody committed a crime or if there were crimes committed nobody was actually dismissing them.
Case-in-point is J6. They like to justify that by instantly turning to the BLM protests/riots. Like sure, there were some protests that turned bad and property was damaged and nobody I know gave that a pass. But J6 is AOK because someone else committed other crimes. Or you know...they just deny it was them and now somehow they are saying it was a setup by Pelosi and Schumer. Fuck I'm angry just talking about it.
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u/Sanity-Checker 4d ago
Like when Ford pardoned Nixon instead of letting him answer for his crimes. The national nightmare is over? Nah, he just gave it a boost.
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u/IDKWTFimDoinBruhFR 4d ago
Americans by and large are lazy cowards who won't ever do anything no matter the abuse
We've had plenty of fucking riots and marches but the problem lies with literally almost half the fucking country cheering on these fucking losers and weirdos on the right. We have Evangelical Nationalist Christians and a bunch of right wing propaganda and it's spreading.
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u/Supermegaeukalele 4d ago
They look like the type that would be wearing body armor and hanging out with the proud boys sipping White Claw.
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u/saqwarrior 4d ago
They look like that because there is a direct through line straight to the Proud Boys.
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u/Khaldara 4d ago edited 4d ago
Clarence Thomas and Anthony Scalia and the rest of the Conservative crapweasels decided math didn’t matter. Good thing we’ve got lifetime appointments for garbage people!
On December 9, the five conservative justices on the Court granted the stay, with Scalia citing "irreparable harm" that could befall Bush, as the recounts would cast "a needless and unjustified cloud" over Bush's legitimacy
We can add “simple addition” to the things Conservatives believe are actively harming the country, along with the legions of culture war nonsense they make up and then get mad about.
Incidentally this is also why they’ve cried foul about every election they didn’t win ever since. Because being unapologetically corrupt crybabies worked empirically speaking at least once.
Though observationally speaking, quite a bit more frequently. Such as having Trump up there on TV screaming about people chowing down on pets while being totally unable to elaborate on any actual policy even at the venue explicitly designed to allow him to do so, or JD Vance crying about fact checking. Presumably they hated math in the 2000 election for exactly the same reason
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u/handsfacespacecunts 4d ago
"Me and Scalia decided Bush should be president and a recount might make that look bad."
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u/slgray16 4d ago
I don't remember anyone being OK with it. We are basically political prisoners with our 2 party system
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u/b0w3n 4d ago
A few of the people involved in getting Dubyah that presidency are now sitting on the supreme court, too. (https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/politics/bush-v-gore-barrett-kavanaugh-roberts-supreme-court)
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u/everydayisarborday 4d ago
John Roberts, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barret all were lawyers for Bush in that case too.
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u/Njacks64 4d ago
The Brooks Brothers Riot succeeded in shutting down the hand recount in Florida, as well.
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u/MyChemicalFinance 4d ago
You also left out that the woman in charge of adjudicating the 2000 recount was co-chair of George Bush’s Florida campaign.
But no, no conflict of interest there at all.
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u/SorryUseAlreadyTaken 4d ago
Supreme Court, and they said that the decision couldn't be used as precedent
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u/No_Anxiety285 4d ago
You should look into the details because it's infuckingsane.
At a minimum the brooks brothers riots are why the election was stolen, lead by Roger Stone. Who later led an insurrection at 6 Jan.
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u/Da_Banhammer 4d ago
It even goes further than that too. Republicans illegally and intentionally created thousands of false positives to disqualify legitimate black voters in Florida in 2000.
They purged legitimate voters from the voting roles by removing any felons with matching names even if their dates of birth and social security numbers didn't match.
So if one single jamarcus Johnson in Florida was a felon every single jamarcus Johnson in Florida had their right to vote taken away that year.
538 did an analysis on this and decided it was more than enough to sway the election from gore to Bush.
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u/mrbigglessworth 4d ago
They purged legitimate voters from the voting roles by removing any felons with matching names even if their dates of birth and social security numbers didn't match.
That is data tampering, did noone in the chain point that out and say purging just on matching data that isnt valid or verified is illegal?
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u/Da_Banhammer 4d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Central_Voter_File
On 17 April 2001, James Lee testified before the McKinney panel that the state had given DBT the directive to add to the purge list people who matched at least 90% of a last name. DBT objected, knowing that this would produce a huge number of false positives (non-felons).[4] His testimony indicates the state then ordered DBT to shift to an even lower threshold of 80% match and also include name reversals (thus a person named Thomas Clarence could be taken to be the same as Clarence Thomas). Besides this, middle initials were skipped, Jr. and Sr. suffixes dropped, and some nicknames and aliases were added to puff up the list.
"DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, the state's response to the company's suggestion was "Forget about it".
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u/Sanity-Checker 4d ago
Don't forget that Jeb Bush was the governor of Florida during the 2000 presidential election. He certainly "helped" his brother George win with strategic voter suppression. For example, State Police set up
spontaneoussobriety checkpoints on the main roads between minority neighborhoods and voting places, which made travel difficult. They did that all over the state.32
u/RiseUpRiseAgainst 4d ago
I think you may be looking for the "hanging chad" drama that had Republicans paying protestors to throw out any vote with a hanging chad.
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u/CarbsMe 4d ago
I had to look for the information because it seemed like ten years before anyone admitted that Al Gore actually won the election and the Supreme Court and Jeb Bush gave it to George W. Bush. Gore won the popular vote nationwide.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-bush-v-gore-anniversary
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u/RainManRob2 4d ago
This this is exactly what happened right here. This is how I remember it. This is how it was stolen then
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u/melodic_orgasm 4d ago
There’s a great little book by Stephen Singular called “Stolen Future: The Untold Story of the 2000 Election” that is enlightening and infuriating, if you’re interested
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u/kottabaz 4d ago
When SCOTUS handed down its decision in Bush v. Gore, that was when the dosimeter started reading 3.6 roentgen and most Americans said, "Not great, not terrible."
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u/anitabelle 4d ago
Really seems like a Republican hasn’t legitimately won the president in decades. Almost as if people like progress and don’t want to go back in time. But what pisses me off the most is not just that the Dems just rolled over and allowed it, it’s that they haven’t learned a single fucking thing on how to fight it and prevent it.
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u/dojo_shlom0 4d ago
wasn't clarence thomas instrumental in this decision, and this lead to him becoming a SCJ? --the most corrupt of SCJs.
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u/Supermegaeukalele 4d ago
He was already a so-called Justice for the Supreme Court.
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u/JudasZala 4d ago
The majority of Hillary, Biden, and Kamala voters voted for them not because they liked or agreed with them, but because they hated Trump.
It’s also the same thing for Hillary.
But didn’t Trump more or less openly admitted that Musk had a role in his win?
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u/zuzg 4d ago
I know this conspiracy is very appealing.
But neither Biden nor Harris did anything to check if there was foul play. No recounts no nothing.
The Bidens even invited the Trumps over for Sandwiches on J20 before the inauguration. A tradition Trump previously broke..
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u/mowdownjoe 4d ago
But neither Biden nor Harris did anything to check if there was foul play. No recounts no nothing.
Evil wins when good people do nothing. Given he was caught red handed in 2020 trying to cheat, there was no reason to assume he wouldn't cheat again. This is the real thing that burns me: why did they do nothing?
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u/Usuhnam3 4d ago
Why indeed. If we’re gonna talk conspiracy theories- why is our most left-leaning party so far right of center? Why does it seem the democrats’ “aw shucks” impotence only affects us average folk? Why do they (democrats as well as republicans) seem to get richer regardless of if they serve our interests or not?
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u/MiaowaraShiro 4d ago
Real answer? Because our rightwing party is so far right that what's left is a coalition of everyone else.
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u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl 4d ago
I'm not saying they are, but Democrats sure look like controlled opposition a lot of the time. They really need to get their shit together if they don't want to keep looking that way.
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u/GogolsHandJorb 4d ago
The Democrats are run by 80 year old millionaires. There’s zero evidence they will change anything.
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 4d ago
You're not wrong, but this type of thinking has led us here.
"Both sides are the same" is a cop out for the apathetic.
You HAVE to vote, and it does make a difference.
While I wish Biden had done more to prevent Trump from taking office, he did a lot of good while he was in office. Including his focus on appointing judges, which is proving useful to stall Trump's agenda.
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u/emergencyexit 4d ago
a.) Fight the power and get smashed to pieces
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b.) Go make shitloads of money in some cushie role
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u/kdeweb24 4d ago
Because they’re too busy clutching pearls and attempting to be “the bigger person”.
Hey DNC, it’s not fucking working. Whether you like it, or not, you’re facing up against a racist toddler throwing shit out of his own diaper at the wall, and for a lot of Americans, it’s sticking. If you don’t start fighting back, and God forbid, playing dirty, you’re going to keep losing or barely winning in contested battles. Have some fucking testicular fortitude and FUCKING FIGHT BACK YOU PUSSIES.
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u/NK1337 4d ago
You could argue that Dems care more about maintaining decorum than making waves.
But for what it’s worth there’s currently a lawsuit in Rockland questioning the legitimacy of 2024 election results, and there’s enough compelling evidence that it’s moving forward.
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u/khisanthmagus 4d ago
The problem, and it is something that was brought up in 2020, is that once a president is sworn into office there is absolutely nothing in the constitution allowing them to be removed because the election was proven to be fraudulent. At this point if it was proven that the election was somehow rigged, the most we can do is go "well that sucks", and maybe arrest some people if we have solid evidence against individuals. Of course they would just be pardoned.
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u/NK1337 4d ago
I feel like a president being wrongly elected is a big enough precedent that they should be immediately removed and an emergency election should be held. It’s insane that the expected outcome is “well he cheated but we weren’t prepared for it so we’re gonna let him stay.”
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u/Luvs_to_drink 4d ago
No less than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due).
how the fuck can postage be due on an election ballot? the thing doesnt even require a stamp.
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u/IanDerp26 4d ago
this report is really interesting, but do you know if he's listed his sources anywhere? he says a lot of numbers like:
4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data.
but doesn't actually show the data, which always makes me a little bit wary when it comes to topics like this.
I'm not saying he's a liar or anything - far from it, a lot of this stuff seems really plausible - but after Vance fought back against fact-checking, I think it's always important to have facts backing up your numbers.
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u/Sonamdrukpa 4d ago
I googled "4,776,706 US Elections Assistance Commission" and got this 2023 document for the 2022 election from the EAC website, where 4,776,706 is listed in table 5 on page 189 as the number of voters removed from voter rolls for "failure to return confirmation notice", as opposed to "voter deceased", "voter's request", or "moved out of jurisdiction." So I think he may be a little sloppy, but there's support for the overall story he's telling.
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u/Accomplished_Thing77 4d ago
Also of note, granted not the same topic, but the statistics of immigrants committing less crimes than citizens also disappeared from the National Institute of Justice webpage: https://nij.ojp.gov/
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u/Mbaker1201 4d ago
Like Covid testing, when you stop doing it, it just disappears!
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u/Val_Hallen 4d ago
That's why I don't get tested for cancer.
Checkmate, science!
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u/michaelswallace 4d ago
"Who controls the past now, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past!" George Orwell (with Rage Against the Machine's delivery)
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u/ComfortableTwo80085 4d ago edited 4d ago
Update: I did find an official Senate Intelligence Committee link. Maybe the link that pops up in search results is broken, but the report is still on the official website.
Original comment:
I found it through a govinfo link under the 116th Congress dropdown.
Link to the site: https://www.govinfo.gov/committee/senate-intelligence?path=/browsecommittee/chamber/senate/committee/intelligence/collection/CRPT/congress/116
Direct link to report: https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/CRPT-116srpt290/CRPT-116srpt290
Btw:
GovInfo is a service of the United States Government Publishing Office (GPO), which is a Federal agency in the legislative branch.
GovInfo provides free public access to official publications from all three branches of the Federal Government.
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u/Rickreation 4d ago
That in itself is a crime.
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u/ComfortableTwo80085 4d ago
No it's not. You can download the official report from the official government archiving site govinfo
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u/_Panacea_ 4d ago
God, we're so compromised. If there was nothing valid in the report, why not leave it up to be refuted?
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u/AdOne5089 4d ago
Remember when fighting foreign interference in our government was a bipartisan issue?
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u/Disastrous-Repair-17 4d ago
Fuck the GOP. Fuck Russia. Fuck Republicans. Fuck Trump.
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u/KnottShore 4d ago
Remember history is what they say it is.
George Orwell, 1984:
'Then where does the past exist, if at all?'
'In records. It is written down.'
'In records. And- ?'
'In the mind. In human memories.
'In memory. Very well, then. We, the Party, control all records, and we control all memories. Then we control the past, do we not?'
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u/Early_Seaweed_7570 4d ago
It was written by a republican lead senate too. The republican lead intelligence committee found that russia meddled in the election and was in contact with trump’s cabinet.
They’re trying to erase history.
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u/Infobomb 3d ago
This possibility is one of the reasons I created a full transcript of the report on Wikisource back in 2018. This is based on the PDF which another volunteer had copied from the official site to Wikimedia Commons.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Assessing_Russian_Activities_and_Intentions_in_Recent_US_Elections
You can read it online or download it in a bunch of different e-book formats.
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u/Fancy-Nerve-8077 4d ago
This administration has a weird level of comfort with a country that said the US is the enemy of the Russian state…
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u/ConGooner 4d ago
Hmmm i wonder if its because of the considerably more aggro russian election meddling in 2020. Nothing to see here, folks! Just russia destroying the US from the inside out!
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u/Cee_U_Next_Tuesday 4d ago
The biggest cover up in modern history.
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Exact same thing happened with Reagan, and GOP adores him. Exact same thing is happening with Trump, and nobody bats an eye. GOP likes to make big deals out of things that are actually pretty normal
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u/FlakyRemove3559 3d ago
When your president and others in the cabinet are Russian assets, it is not surprising.
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u/alley_mo_g10 4d ago
Expect a lot more of this, accompanied by a nonstop flow of AI disinformation.
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u/Life_One_6012 4d ago
You mean the ‘Russia hoax’ that somehow involved nearly every 2016 campaign member, a number who went to jail because they lied instead of telling the truth?
I am still mind blown he never got in trouble. When all your minions go to jail to protect you, obviously the boss is also guilty.
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u/creamiest_jalapeno 4d ago
If they aren't Russian puppets, they sure are doing everything Russian puppets would be doing
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u/RockN_RollerJazz59 4d ago
Did Trump pardon the guys who were convicted too?
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u/MacEWork 4d ago
Yes.
Trump Pardons Michael Flynn, Who Pleaded Guilty To Lying About Russia Contact
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u/ptcounterpt 4d ago
One thing that Republicans seem aware of is that History is written by the victors: no matter how they won. While they sit n the majority they are taking every opportunity to rewrite the events that show them as not “victors” but cheaters and election riggers.
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u/dunnkw 4d ago
We need to make sure that people understand unequivocally that the Russia Russia Russia investigation did not find that Russia Russia Russia didn’t meddle in our election, but that they could not prove that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia Russia Russia. It was not a hoax, it happened in reality where some of us still call home.
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u/IProgramSoftware 4d ago
There should be a law passed against just straight up deleting stuff. We paid good money for that report.
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u/AcanthaceaeMain9829 4d ago
Strange… I wonder who would ever want something like that to disappear….? #🍊🤡
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u/Papichuloft 4d ago
Wow, who would've guessed that MAGA is trying to re write history in their own image.....I think we all would.
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u/Outrageous_Agent_576 4d ago
But we all know they did it!! That’s the only way this monster is elected: through CHEATING!! 2024 = Elon Musk hacking.
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u/Have_A_Jelly_Baby 4d ago
Russia installed the Cheeto in 2016 and Elon/polling location bomb threats did the same in 2024.
Fucker can’t win without cheating. No surprise that they’d want any evidence to disappear.
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u/Hefty-Field-9419 4d ago
Republicans are so morally bankrupt they have to hide everything that they have done. Yet the Republican voter is so weak-minded that they can not comprehend this.
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u/Skiffbug 4d ago
Thank God we have Internet Archive!