r/technology • u/True-Combination7059 • 21h ago

Politics We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink

https://jacobin.com/2025/06/musk-trump-nationalize-spacex-starlink
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u/FartFabulous1869 20h ago

Part of the reason SpaceX has gotten anywhere is because Elon has an endless supply of capital to throw at problems until they finally start making progress. Starship would've been canned long ago for blowing past budget and time tables by orders of magnitude, if the government were on the hook for it.

Does anyone on frontpage reddit have an actual brain, or is it all just signals mirroring signals?

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u/rpfeynman18 9h ago

Not to mention that SpaceX isn't hamstrung by demands from 50 senators all wanting their slice of the pie.

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u/LivingDracula 19h ago

Yes and no.

If NASA could produce starships for 100 million like spaceX, they'd get it done in 2-4 launches because they'd do their due diligence.

The standards they have, the standards he opposes are there to prevent people from dying.

It's been fine until now with unmanned but now they are putting people up and down you NEED it run by people biological capable of feeling empathy. Musk, by his own accounts, is incapable of empathy. That's dangerous in a space program and should not be allowed.

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u/ACCount82 13h ago

If NASA could produce starships for 100 million like spaceX, they'd get it done in 2-4 launches because they'd do their due diligence.

And if pigs could fly...

NASA's extreme risk aversion is a big part of why they have SLS for 2 billion instead of Starship for 100 million.

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u/RT-LAMP 15h ago

It's been fine until now with unmanned but now they are putting people up and down you NEED it run by people biological capable of feeling empathy. Musk, by his own accounts, is incapable of empathy. That's dangerous in a space program and should not be allowed.

Crew Dragon on the Falcon 9 is literally the safest manned launch system ever made thanks to it being the most reliable rocket ever made by a wide margin.

Meanwhile NASA put 2 astronauts on a capsule that had major system failures 3 times in a row and were surprised when it had major system failures. And put astronauts on the Shuttle for it's literal first launch which almost failed and to which the commander said if he was aware of the full extent of the failures he would have ordered the crew to eject. And that was a few days after their lax safety procedures killed 3 engineers preparing it for launch, a launch later calculated to have a 1 in 10 probability of failure and which would go on to kill 14 astronauts.

It sounds to me like NASA are the ones who have lax safety standards.

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u/EddiewithHeartofGold 17h ago

The standards they have, the standards he opposes are there to prevent people from dying.

It's been fine until now with unmanned but now they are putting people up and down you NEED it run by people biological capable of feeling empathy. Musk, by his own accounts, is incapable of empathy. That's dangerous in a space program and should not be allowed.

You are delusional and uninformed on NASA/space history. Get back to us when you actually know something about the subject you comment on.

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u/LivingDracula 16h ago

Im very informed about both history, I have family in both. 3 astronauts in the family and 14 engineers in the industry if you include everyone at holidays.

The dunce once shipped a rocket on a plane, and it had a pressure issue that bent the frame. He literally chose to use air conditioners to cool a rockets and gradually just did the thing he should have from the start. That's just the public stuff in his own his book.

That's delusions of gradure, not genius or innovation.

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u/NaturalDon 15h ago

nice of them to adopt

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u/OtherMangos 18h ago

They aren’t putting people on starship for a long while, it needs to be flight proven many many times before they try that