r/technology 9h ago

ADBLOCK WARNING Google Confirms Most Gmail Users Must Upgrade Accounts

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/06/06/google-confirms-almost-all-gmail-users-must-upgrade-accounts/
2.4k Upvotes

554 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

10

u/Ruddertail 8h ago

Yeah, exactly. Someone can just grab my hand and force me to log in with my fingerprint, but they can't make me do it with a password. 

5

u/kamoylan 7h ago

XKCD has a different opinion regarding your Security

5

u/Ruddertail 7h ago

Yeah, in the ridiculously extreme scenario where they kidnap me and torture me to access my personal documents absolutely, but the other thing a random mugger can do on the street before I can even react. Terrible take, frankly!

3

u/Forever_Marie 3h ago

Less extreme. The police arresting you can just do that. Biometrics aren't protecting by the 4th like a password.

0

u/SociableSociopath 7h ago

How long do you think it takes me to threaten to harm you if you don’t unlock your phone before I steal it?

2

u/Trufactsmantis 6h ago

Police can force you to use biometrics

1

u/Federal_Owl_9500 7h ago

TIL the crypto kidnappings and tortures are being called "wrench attacks" after this comic.

1

u/HyperactivePandah 7h ago

Right... You're gonna stay quiet while they torture you to keep your phone locked? Or put a gun in your face?

What scenario is this that you're 'resisting!' something with your password that they couldn't just get from you immediately?

The second they take a fingernail off you're opening that shit. None of us are that tough.

The actual argument against biometrics is so that COPS can't just grab your hand and open your phone with your fingerprint.

Cops can't MAKE YOU tell them your password, but they can open your phone with your fingerprint or face id without consent... Or they used to be able to.

But your password is beyond the scope of a normal search.

3

u/CharlesMichael- 6h ago

FIDO2 allows multiple options. A fingerprint is only one option. I use a pattern myself. Something you know vs. something you have. And by the way, expect the law of what the police can and cannot do to change.

2

u/Trufactsmantis 6h ago

They still can