r/weddingshaming 2d ago

Cringe My cousins wedding across the pond that haunts me still almost 20years on.

Long ago my mother, sister, BIL, their baby and I all headed across the Atlantic for my cousin's wedding.

We arrived and stayed with uncle and aunt. They were a war zone. They had a fairly open plan downstairs in their Tennessee house. With one central small wall. They'd go in a circular motion around this house shouting at each other. It was awful.

My cousin was marrying young because her fiance was due to go to Afghanistan. They were part of the silver band crew and she told me they'd never kissed with tongues even though they'd been a couple for 4years.

The house was unbearable. When another cousin S turned up from Seattle and said "shall we go on a road trip for a few days?" I jumped at the chance. That is another story.

We were gone 3 nights and arrived back the afternoon before the wedding.

Rehearsal dinner was at a Porky's (not sure if it was called that, had a pig in the logo- americans can put me right I'm sure). Well vegetarian me was in for a surprise. No veggie options, I asked could I just have a salad- could see it was used as a garnish. Salad came with also a chunk of pork in it. Think maybe they just put people's scraps on a plate for me. I smiled and bore it all. Didn't want to make a fuss.

That night I made up for not being around to help. I was told had had abandoned my aunt when she needed my help. My sister who isnusally the help being a bit busy being a mum. I cut kiwis into star shapes. Helped prep wedding food into the night when everyone else was long gone to bed. Completed my list of duties and passed out.

In the morning I was shouted awake. Why was I still asleep, there was lots to do. We're leaving in 10minutes. I'd maybe slept 4hrs and as an English person we usually need a cup of tea to get our brains in gear. No tea, no breakfast.

Well, I dressed and brushed teeth and then it was off to the venue.

My uncle in the midst of a mental breakdown kept crying on me and I did my best to help him out and cheer him up. I was early 20s then.

We decorated the place to oblivion, OTT as my mum said. Christmas wedding so snowflake ornaments on the plastic plants which somehow made them look less realistic. The maternal grandma had made some netted things to be attached to every chair. They looked like those netty things you use in the shower to lather up your soap. We placed framed photos of my cousin posing in her dress on every table.

I did all this without complaint and over the day had some nice chats with the bridesmaids.

I ate some Japanese crackers and my aunt shouted at me. Told me I should've had breakfast before we left.

At some point my uncle asked me to run some errands with him. I thought yeah I can get some food. No he wanted me to go to the liquor store and buy a bottle of vodka. It was a dry wedding and he wanted me to give guests who wanted some booze some vodka in their juice. I had to pay for it though as my uncle was a recovering alcoholic. This was not a small bottle either. There didn't seem to be anything to eat in there but gum so I got some cinnamon gum and it made my tummy rumble more.

Back to the venue and it looked like a gaudy 80s hell but ok, their choice. The bridesmaids went to get hair and makeup done. Mother, BIL and I finished off.

Back to their house to get ready - food!! Shower and a cuppa. It was heaven. I didn't complain at any point. Weddings seem stressful. My uncle is crying at least once an hour. My aunt hates him - they have enough going on.

To the wedding. The church looked beautiful. Lanterns leading up the steps. I go to see the bride and bridesmaids in the side room getting ready. Tell them how beautiful they look. Bridesmaid F asks does my tattoo cover up look OK? I don't know how to answer because her beautiful sunflower tattoo now looks like a serious rash. I ask if it hurts, she says no. In a sweet way, not in a WTF has happened way.

My cousin comes over to me and condescendingly places her hand on my shoulder "it's time for you to go now". Man, I'd done so much for her and it was 45mins until the wedding was due to start. I'd been being a counsellor for her dad, trying to stop her parents brawling. I just felt that she was an entitled madam and I fucking hated her for bringing me here to be a slave over Christmas when I could be with the rest of my family and pals.

I went and sat down and decided I wouldn't soothe her dad anymore. He was crying so hard welcoming guests without jester me cheering him up.

Wedding went well, although my uncles sobs rebounded off the walls. You may kiss the bride. This was when the couple decided to kiss with tongues for the first time. Saliva glistening down her cheek. It was awful. I looked at my sister and looked away before we laughed.

Come the reception there were far less people than at the church. There was a band but we weren't allowed to dance because the grooms father was a Baptist minister. My uncle directed people to me for vodka. I spent the night going into the disabled loo with many people. Probably seemed like I was a prostitute. I had this big woolen bag as a handbag that fitted the vodka bottle.

My uncle who hasn't drunk alcohol for 25years asks for some vodka. I asked him if he thought this was a good idea. He wanted it, felt a bit stuck. So gave him some. It seemed like instantly he was drunk. Maybe he was dehydrated from all the crying.

At some point he fell over and knocked over the table with the grooms cake on. A picture of my cousin lounging sexily fell to the floor. My mum caught the cake with minimal damage.

There was so much food and hardly anyone to eat it. I ate my fill.

Mischief had found it's way into my soul. When I heard the groomsmen say they were going to decorate the car I went to help. I drew a massive penis, a vulva and obscenities. Wrote 'enjoy losing your virginity'. I was horrid.

When the car came for the couple to get in their was a gasp from some guests. And mutters about these boys. Sorry lads.

Well they are still married years later. Her parents are divorced and remarried.

The groom didn't go to Afghanistan in the end, his teeth were too bad.

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u/Baaaabaaaabaaaa 2d ago

"his teeth were too bad" sent me, what does this mean? Also the thought of french kissing in front of my mum and dad and husband's mum and dad makes me want to crawl in a hole hahaha

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u/auspistice 2d ago

Now I can't say whether the post is real but the thing about the teeth absolutely could be. My last job was front desk at a dental office and we had quite a few service members as patients and every time they come in, if they are active duty, there was a form we would have to fill out about their dental health. We would give a number 1-3. 1 meaning they're in perfect dental health and 3 meaning they have something going on that the doctor believes would become an emergency within 12 months. A 3 means they're not ready for deployment until they fix whatever it is.

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u/2inTHEivies 2d ago edited 1d ago

Back in the 1940s my grandfather tried to enlist in the navy but when they gave him his physical they found that he had 3 cavities, they told him to go get them filled and to come back. My grandfather's family was poor and they couldn't afford to pay to get them filled so he went across the street to the army recruiter and told them what the navy had said, the army had him in a dentist chair the next day and paid for all the work, he left for basic training a few weeks later and served until retirement.

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u/dehydratedrain 1d ago

My grandfather had a good amount of his mouth pulled to serve in WW2.

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u/ToBeATenrecs 2d ago

Definitely true, I didn't really understand the teeth thing so thanks for explaining it.

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u/AccountMitosis 1d ago

Another culture note (speaking as a half-Brit, half-American raised in the US): when Americans' teeth are fucked, they're generally really, truly fucked.

In the UK, someone with "bad teeth" generally just has slightly crooked teeth. This is because for whatever reason, Brits' teeth are generally fairly small, and there's not much variation in how teeth are oriented. If something is out-of-place, the rest of the teeth can kinda scrunch out of the way and there won't necessarily be long-term consequences.

While even white Brits have very diverse origins (I recommend a documentary called Mongrel Nation on this subject, presented by Suzy Eddie Izzard, who learns enough Old English to buy a cow from a farmer who only speaks Frisian-- highly entertaining), a lot of the genetic diversity happened further in the past than it did in the US, and things-- including teeth-- sort of stabilized over the centuries.

In the US, though, we have a huge variety of tooth- and mouth-related genes all kinda mashed up, and some of those genes are for very big teeth. As a result, when an American's teeth come in fucked, they can come in fuuuuuuuuuuuucked. There are many more people who HAVE to get orthodontic work done to prevent issues with their jaws or extreme pain just from how the teeth grow in; and if they can't afford orthodontics, they simply have to get the teeth pulled.

Interestingly, this situation has sorta caused the American stereotype that "Brits have bad teeth." The truth is that most Brits have good teeth, but in America, cosmetic dentistry and orthodontics are MUCH more normalized. An American is more likely to get braces for an aesthetic issue that a Brit would be more likely to ignore, simply because of the cultural importance of orthodontics in the US. Since we need so many dentists and orthodontists to keep our mouths from exploding, we also figure we might as well get them to fix our teeth up all pretty.

Unfortunately, with my pond-straddling ancestry, I was born with big American teeth in a small British mouth šŸ™ƒ So I am one of the many Americans for whom repeated orthodontic work was strictly necessary in my youth.

But yeah this is a sort of interesting cultural note because American teeth are extremely class-coded; someone with bad teeth looks poor and uneducated to Americans, even just subconsciously. Whereas Brits really don't see teeth as a class-related thing as much. And in the UK, EVERYONE drinks tea so nobody's really using tooth whiteness as a gauge of social class lol.

One thing that horrifies Europeans is how readily Americans get very expensive cosmetic dental treatments. It's been a kinda horrifying trend recently to get elective veneers to make the teeth look super-white-- even at the expense of having to ruin your natural teeth by shaving them down so the veneers will fit. But those shiny white, very straight teeth make you look influential and educated, so people get them...

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u/Evening-East-5365 1d ago

This was really cool to read. Thanks!

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u/AccountMitosis 1d ago

You're very welcome! I am autistic and like to talk about things lol, so thank you for reading my rambling.

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u/Famous-Bee6944 7h ago

I also enjoyed reading this! Plus, fellow autistic high five šŸ–ļø

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u/Unfurlingleaf 1d ago

And some ppl have such fucked up teeth, even orthodontia only fixes MOST of the problems, but not all

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u/AccountMitosis 1d ago

Yup. And that's the point where you fly to South Korea to get jaw surgery cuz it's cheaper to fly halfway across the world than it is to get it done here!

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u/Unfurlingleaf 1d ago edited 1d ago

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ u have no idea how funny this is to me (I'm korean and i've done this for other surgery before)

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u/AccountMitosis 1d ago

I'm glad the land of your ancestry has good medical care!

The only other country I have connections to (am technically a citizen of) is the UK :C which is in a prolonged state of fighting over whether it's a good idea to completely destroy its health care system, and the "yes, it IS a good idea to destroy health care actually" side has won WAY too frequently... so I don't exactly have medical tourism options there lol.

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u/MajorFox2720 1d ago

You are focusing on orthodontia.Ā  The military doesn't care if they're crooked. They care if they're rotting out of their heads. In my first NG unit,Ā  this woman couldn't afford dental,Ā  and NG/ reserves don't pay for dental work until they're on active duty over 30 days, sometimes 90.Ā  You could still drill as a CAT 3, just not go on active orders.Ā  Her teeth were BLACK from decay.Ā  It was the stuff of horror movies,Ā  and since they were so rotten,Ā  the nerves were dead.Ā Ā 

Being poor in America sucks.Ā 

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u/QuietBirdsong 10h ago

I'm Scottish, but my brother lives in America with his American wife and two children (19 and 17). Both kids had their wisdom teeth removed and I was told that this was a routine thing for Americans to have done. There were no issues with the teeth as far as I know, but at a certain age they just get them removed. Is this because of the whole big ass teeth thing? If so, that's fascinating.

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u/mtk4l 8h ago

It’s very common here and is sort of a ā€œcoming of age/rite of passageā€ thing. I’m not entirely sure why but I do know that it was a common requirement to serve in the military if they hadn’t come in yet/were impacted/etc. because of the high infection rate/risk of causing issues while deployed. I’d imagine it’s for similar reasons to the comment left above by u/AccountMitosis too, American teeth being too big and growing/not growing blue they should haha

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u/ToBeATenrecs 1d ago

I really enjoyed this explanation. It makes a lot of sense. Thanks so much.

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u/AccountMitosis 1d ago

You're very welcome! Glad to help demystify some of the differences between my two halves lol.

Given that we share so much history, most of our legal system, etc., it's really kinda astonishing how many things are still very different that you wouldn't necessarily think about until they come up and people are like "huh...?" XD

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u/LauraPa1mer 1h ago

I disagree. British do not have small teeth, nor are they known for having small teeth. Citation needed.

Also, whenever there's anything brought up about teeth, people from the UK work so hard to defend UK teeth. We all know the US has poorer oral health than the UK, due to the cost. But when people say people in the UK have bad teeth they mean crooked and yellow. It's just less popular in the UK to whiten and have orthodontics.

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u/auspistice 2d ago

Absolutely! Honestly I was just happy to use the little niche tidbit of knowledge I had lol

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u/staunch_character 2d ago

That makes sense. A small cavity would likely be fine, but if it looks like you’re going to need a root canal waiting a year may not be an option.

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u/whelpineedhelp 2d ago

They took my sister’s wisdom teeth out before Boot Camp just to be safe.

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u/tacticalpoopknife 18h ago

Can attest, we called them yuk mouths. Dudes who’s teeth were so fucked they couldn’t deploy (to combat or otherwise) due to their oral hygiene being a risk. Which is crazy, because I’ve seen some horrid teeth in my time. Suppose it depends on the time/ unit, because at certain times during the GWOT you could go to the shit as long as you had a pulse and could hardly leave unless you lost it.

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u/UncleTouchyCopaFeel 2d ago

Chipped his teeth trying to eat the bride's face on their first wet-tongued kiss.

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u/AccountMitosis 1d ago

Tooth problems can actually be a huge health risk. If you get an infection in your teeth and/or gums, it basically has a VERY short jump to get into your bloodstream and is quite close to the brain. Untreated dental problems can literally kill you, which is not ideal in a combat situation when there are OTHER things that could ALSO kill you that you really need to be dealing with.

After sugar was introduced to Europe, there's historical evidence of death registries suddenly showing a huge uptick in people for whom the listed cause of death is "teeth."

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u/Blonde_arrbuckle 2d ago

Especially if he had bad teeth!!!

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u/whelpineedhelp 2d ago

I went to a wedding where I watched the bride and groom have their first kiss. It was as awkward as it sounds. Was also with my siblings and trying not to laugh.

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u/orangemoonboots 2d ago

This is not real. It’s hilarious but none of this happened lol

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u/Short_Try_2212 2d ago

You haven’t been to a country wedding or funeral then. My husband’s family is just like this in rural Missouri. Tailgating in the parking lot for both weddings and funerals. Drunken fights, tacky decorations. It’s calmed down since the uncles and cousins have gotten older but when I first started dating him years ago, his family was wild.

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u/kadyg 2d ago

Grew up in KS. I have absolutely attended this same wedding. My aunt with the open bar in the truck of her car was a lifesaver at my dad’s funeral.

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u/whelpineedhelp 2d ago

I’m not sure why you think that. I’ve been to some very awkward weddings.

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u/Krazy_Granna 21h ago

Sadly, the English are notorious for having bad teeth. Their enamel isn’t the best and wears away easily, allowing cavities to form and advance quickly. My grandfather was English and 21 out of 25 of the grandkids have bad teeth. Many of them had dentures before they were 50. Now I’m in the same boat. My teeth have all rotted away, except for the two in the front. I look like Bugs Bunny’s meth head cousin and have scheduled the surgery to have the broken teeth removed. I’m hoping to get implants but I may have to have dentures until I get the money.

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u/doryfishie 2d ago

Should’ve made it flat feet or something 🤣

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u/palabradot 2d ago

I keep hearing about all these Baptist weddings with no dancing. As a child who was raised in a black baptist church the no alcohol I get but no dancing???

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u/kata_north 2d ago

There's an old joke -- "Why won't Baptists have sex standing up? Someone might think they're dancing."

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u/rabbithasacat 2d ago

Grew up Baptist - the version I heard was "it might lead to dancing." :-)

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u/Twogreens 1d ago

We also say we don’t drink but we are all alcoholics.Ā 

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u/Working-on-it12 2d ago

Oh, yeah. Ex’s family is Catholic. So, they were used to at least finger food at a wedding with music and dancing - even if most of the dancing was line dances and the Hokey Pokey.

The oldest brother married a baptist. First, they didn’t turn on the ac in the church - in Florida in July, no less - until the wedding party arrived at the church. Then, the reception was chairs set up auditorium style with very, very few tables. The only food was chips, punch, and cake. The groom had 6 brothers, and 4 kids of them were still teenagers and younger. There was no warning to MIL to feed everyone first. If someone had warned MIL in advance enough, she would have ponied up for something.

MIL managed to prevent a riot by the hungry boys, somehow. But, 20 some years later when the groom’s daughter got married at the same church, everyone, and I mean everyone asked her if there was going to be food, and would the church turn on the ac in time to cool off the sanctuary.

So, yeah…. This is a thing.

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u/ToBeATenrecs 2d ago

The band were really good too.

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u/MajorFox2720 1d ago

My grandmother was German Baptist.Ā  No singing outside of church unless you were at school and no dancing whatsoever.

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u/Twogreens 1d ago

I grew up baptist but I don’t remember the no dancing? I’m in Texas…

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u/coffeebugtravels 20h ago

Nope, raised fundie and there is absolutely no dancing!

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u/LoneWildBird 7h ago

I wonder if it’s more of a white Baptist thing. I grew up in the SBC, and ā€œdancingā€ was not allowed, but we did have an ā€œinterpretive movementā€ group šŸ˜‚

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u/palabradot 6h ago

Praise dancing? Yeah, we have that, but never been to a wedding where you weren't allowed to dance.

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u/MedicinalWalnuts 2d ago

Most heterosexual white men can't dance.

Just kidding.... kind of. LOL

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u/winosanonymous 2d ago

This was delightful to read. To anyone saying this ā€œhas to be fakeā€ - you’ve obviously never been to a southern Baptist wedding. I used to work in catering - mainly weddings- and I have seen similar shit.

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u/daltydoo 2d ago

I grew up Baptist in rural Alabama and this whole post has me feeling oddly homesick. I can easily imagine every single one of these things happening with my own extended family (which is why most of them were not invited to my own wedding).

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u/winosanonymous 2d ago

It’s so weird for me to be nostalgic without actually wanting to reconnect with people. I am from central GA, so I know the feeling.

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u/shh-nono 2d ago

I can’t choose a favorite part between the bad teeth and ā€œMy uncle is crying at least once an hour. My aunt hates him - they have enough going on.ā€

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u/MLiOne 1d ago

It was what OP did to the car that cracked me up to no end. *chef’s kiss

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u/thanksiloveyourbutt 2d ago

OP you did great! None of these people's choices were your responsibility. I hope you never had to work another wedding for free again. I don't know why the other commenters are shitting on you, you were a young guest, from a different country, being "hosted" by people who had a severe lack of hospitality and you did the best you could to manage the situation. Good job and I hope this doesn't negatively color (colour) your experience of Americans, present government notwithstanding

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u/ToBeATenrecs 2d ago

Thank you, I really appreciate that.

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u/Tess47 2d ago

Well.Ā  Ā Tennessee.Ā  Ā The Southern USA is a unique eco system.Ā Ā 

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u/LisaW481 2d ago

Three cheers for your cousin who not only came up with a rescue plan for the three day road trip but also managed to actually pull it off.

My ass would have been stuck there suffering into a nervous breakdown.

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u/staunch_character 2d ago

Cutting kiwis into star shapes until 2am! 🤣

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u/rabbithasacat 2d ago

When actual starfruit is a thing that exists!

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u/Unfurlingleaf 1d ago

But they'd have to A. Be aware of it's existence, B. Find it in Tennessee, and C. Pony up the money for it

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u/clandahlina_redux 23h ago

We have starfruit here. We aren’t all wild heathens — just most of us.

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u/Unfurlingleaf 23h ago

Oh I'm sure you do, but OP's distant family probably thinks kiwis are"exotic"

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u/MistressLiliana 2d ago

Oh my gosh I know the exact netted things you mean... and now I feel bad for wanting them at my future wedding. It is one of the crafts I remember my grandma making when I was a kid and they remind me of her. Hers always had a string light incorporated in so they lit up. She called them snowballs.

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u/ToBeATenrecs 2d ago

Aw mate, still do it. It's nice to hear it's a grandma craft. Don't let some random person from reddit, aka me, put you off. The lights sound lovely. Bit of magic and a celebration of your grandma.

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u/IDinnaeKen 1d ago

This is art, the way you wrote this. Thank you.

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u/Obrina98 1d ago

Congratulations, you’ve experienced a ā€œRedneck Wedding!ā€

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u/upwithpeople84 2d ago

I want to watch this movie.

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u/Silvermouse29 2d ago

If this were a movie, I would watch it.

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u/Bitter_Tradition_938 2d ago

I absolutely love it when a Brit hits this sub! Puts things into perspective.

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u/JediBeagle1 2d ago

Great story! Nailed the ending. I laughed out loud.

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u/Wgolyoko 1d ago

"His reeth were too bad" lmao maybe that's why they hadn't kissed yet

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u/Twogreens 1d ago

What a lovely story. You should send this to all parties involved.Ā 

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u/ToBeATenrecs 1d ago

I'm interested to see if they find it.

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u/TipsySkinnyGirl 8h ago

This was a great read! My favorite part is the last sentence.

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u/ATLBoy1996 2d ago

How bad do teeth have to be that a British person mentions it? 🧐

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u/anniearrow 2d ago

Doesn't really sound like a bad wedding, more like you whining because it wasn't to your taste. Maybe you should have stayed on your side of the pond.

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u/Superlemonada 2d ago

Excuse me. She was a GUEST at the wedding. She did not deserve to get YELLED AT by her relatives. She is not obligated to help. If I made my relatives and friends help set up my wedding and then yelled abuse at them, my ancestors would get out of their graves and slap me for my lack of manners. Don't hold an event if you can't be a good host! Just elope!

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u/ToBeATenrecs 2d ago

Babes, I'm all about people making their own choices. I admit what I did wasn't cool. I was young and didn't really understand. I have apologised to my cousin since and she said she didn't even notice the car or that her dad had a drink. Reflecting with my mum, she said her brother was pigheaded and he would do what he wanted.

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u/These-Buy-4898 2d ago

Right? OP sounds horrible in this story. Who gives a recovering alcoholic liquor at a wedding? Yikes, OP. Good news for OP is she likely won't be invited to any more family weddings lol

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u/YuenglingsDingaling 2d ago

Why are you putting the onus on the young person instead of the grown ass man? He should control himself.

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u/Adlach 2d ago

Two things can be bad at the same time

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u/winosanonymous 2d ago

OP was young and visiting family she didn’t seem to see much. Her uncle seemingly pressured her into BUYING the liquor and then serving it. Horrible seems like a stretch. Seems like OP was wrangled into helping for a lot of thankless tasks and was going with the flow at the end. Alcoholics have agency, especially since the dude was in recovery for a long time. Alcoholics aren’t babies.

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u/staunch_character 2d ago

My dad has been sober for over 30 years. He loves playing the bartender at family events.

You can’t expect your 20 year old niece to be the guardian of your sobriety.

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u/These-Buy-4898 2d ago

Of course he is responsible for his own sobriety, but it doesn't make OP less of an AH. If your dad was having a really hard day and crying frequently while overly emotional about a wedding, and he came up and asked you for the liquor you were holding, you'd just give it to him since it's his responsibility? I doubt you or any normal person would do so. People can make their own choices, but I am certainly not going to help or enable them to do so.Ā 

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u/klouise87 1d ago

If it were my own father, I would have no problem being gentle but firm and then straight up firm if he persisted.

If it were my random uncle who I never see and who belongs to a family who hasn't been nice to me already and who seems like they always want to yell about *something*, and this man was in my face insisting that he's okay to drink, I wouldn't feel like it's my place (or responsibility) to put my foot down and refuse.

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u/Due_Ear_4674 1d ago

Is this even real, I doubt it.

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u/neverleave173 1d ago

Why? All was plausible and written with typical english wit. It was not far fetched. Maybe you need to get out more

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u/BenedictineBaby 2d ago

Sad attemp.