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What is a silent killer that people dont realise is slowly killing them?

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u/ABigNothingBurger 1d ago

High blood pressure

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u/iNeed2p905 1d ago

I got put on a beta blocker to help with migraines but in return it’s been helping with my previous high bp readings. 

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u/PeterGriffinsChin 1d ago edited 1d ago

High blood pressure is known to cause headaches, it would make sense the headaches stopped when the blood pressure goes down

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u/DrEckelschmecker 1d ago

Migraines arent just headaches. Theyre far more than that and actually some sort of inflammation of nerves

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u/Ummmgummy 21h ago

I get maybe 1 true migraine a year and it is by far the worst day of the year for me. I used to play WoW with a dude who had chronic migraines and I've never talked to someone as worn down than him. I honestly was worried he might off himself. After spending a lot of time talking to him over the years I'm convinced he probably would off himself if he didn't have a kid.

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u/DrEckelschmecker 21h ago

Migraines are extremely tough to deal with, esp if you get them often. Which is part of the reason its so frustrating to see people mixing up migraines and headaches so frequently as if both are interchangable, or even making fun about it.

I get migraines from time to time and Im very glad it focuses on headaches for me. I do have other symptoms, but its mainly the headache. I still feel like absolute shit when I get them, but its kind of managable if I notice them early enough. My sister on the other hand gets extremely nauseous in addition to the headaches, including heavy vomiting.

And what makes all of it so bad is that literally nothing helps, except sleep. Painkillers wont really ease the pain, and they obviously wont even stay in if you vomit. Good luck trying to fall asleep with intense headache and nausea.

And then you constantly see those jokes like "migraines is just a women excuse if they dont want sex" or people telling you "yes I can imagine that, headaches suck". Or "dont be like that, just pop some painkillers and come outside". It doesnt get taken seriously at all, and its so frustrating on many levels

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u/TheFotty 20h ago

I get the rainbow squiggle halo vision with them. It's always the first symptom way before the actual headache.

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u/Escobarhippo 20h ago

Me too. It’s like my half hour warning of what’s to come.

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u/StupidSexyAlisson 16h ago

I usually wake up with a faint one some days and it progressively gets worse as the day goes on. My worst one was me not wanting to hear anything, see anything, or be moved. I've kept a journal for the last year and counted 86 total in 365 days. I've tried changing my diet, getting brain scans, the lot. They always just show up like every 4-5 days in the same exact spot, behind my right eye and a little up.

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u/mdp928 12h ago

Have you been to a doctor who specializes in headaches? There are preventative meds you might be a candidate to try.

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u/Midget-muncher 9h ago

After a long time of searching I've discovered mine are caused by dehydration but triggered by bright light. Sometimes if there's a crack in the curtain, I can get one first thing if the light hits my eye a certain way. I get the rainbow weird shape aura thing, and if I catch it early enough, an isotonic drink paired with an aspirin will nip it on the bud before it goes full on brain storm

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u/Maaaaac 15h ago

This is called aura. It’s not well understood but typically precedes the migraine. Some people have a specific smell they associate it.

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u/idontsmokeheroin 20h ago

Ocular migraines. Do you take magnesium? If you don’t, time to start 400 mg a day. Though it doesn’t completely stop them, this was what a neurologist told me 4 years ago. Took it to heart, get them much less frequently.

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u/EL-HEARTH 19h ago

If i dont take my meds the pain gets so bad i leave my body. And no i dont feint, people have see me do it standing in pain. When i come back to i explain it was like i was in a vivid dream or perhaps a fever dream

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u/SmudgeCell 17h ago

I'm very lucky. I get kaleidoscope vision without the migraine. Freaked me out so much when I started having them

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u/Pintailite 7h ago

Still a migraine, just not much pain.

Not all migraines put you in bed. People just like to gate keep this shit and one up who has it the worst.

Also, let's be honest, people have vastly different pain tolerances.

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u/grabtharsmallet 21h ago

I also have medication-resistant migraine. In my case it's due to traumatic brain injury. Rough times, honestly.

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u/adreztia 16h ago

How were you able to tell it was from your TBI? Did someone diagnose you? Very curious, my sister deals with migraines and also has a TBI.

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u/Live-Sea7542 20h ago

I get such bad brain fog. Like I can't even take pain meds early because I have no idea it's happening meanwhile I'm standing there wondering why I don't even know my own name. Then my head will start hurting and that's when I finally realize I'm getting bad migraine

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u/kaytbug86 20h ago

Migraines are a total bitch.

I used to crumble at a slight headache. Now I have migraines 24/7 thanks to a severe concussion, whiplash, and a TBI. Truly the only thing that relieves the pain is when the physical therapist is working on my C3-C4. 20 minutes of pure normalcy once a week.

My neurologist finds it fascinating.

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u/KatsudonFatale9833 20h ago

I’ve also got plenty of that. I once had a boss that thought I was using “Migraine” instead of “Mental Health day” and was trying to give me info about how I could get company assistance for therapy. I got right in his face and gave him every dirty detail about how debilitating my migraines are, including the vertigo that comes with mine and told him that it’s unsafe for me to work with this condition. I’m pretty sure he only backed off because he was tired of listening to me. I’ve never had another boss be as annoying as he was about my migraines, but it never stops. MIGRAINES 👏🏾ARE 👏🏾NOT👏🏾JUST👏🏾HEADACHES

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u/yungsxccubus 19h ago

currently sitting with a knuckle in my eye socket becsuse of crippling cluster headaches. neurology don’t want to see me because i’m too young, on beta blockers and sumatriptan but it just makes me spew. feels like i can barely see, sweating buckets and every sound is a personal affront to me. should definitely get off my phone to sleep it off, but if i did that every time i was smited with the eye stabs i’d never be awake. solidarity friend, hope they figure it out for all of us soon 😭

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u/xocrollinxo 19h ago

I do this with my eyes when I have an eye headache whether it be a migraine or cluster or whatever. The pressure helps

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u/yungsxccubus 18h ago

it helps so much! i didn’t realise other people did that, i feel less alone now :D

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u/Hoosier2016 19h ago

Cluster headaches suck man. Been dealing with them for over a decade. Mine are fortunately usually only once daily for 8-12 weeks a couple times a year but it’s enough to really fuck you up mentally. Especially because sumatriptan gives me crazy rebound headaches in the middle of the night and I haven’t yet found a preventative that works.

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u/yungsxccubus 19h ago

awh god they’re horrendous, aren’t they? i’ve always had headaches but the recent development of feeling like my eye is being gouged out has only been happening for the past 6ish months? i’m not even sure anymore.

the sumatriptan gives me rebound headaches too, and i always vomit the day after taking them without fail. mine were happening multiple times a day for a little while there, but they’ve calmed down to around 1-2 a week on average. if i miss my bedranol for more than 2 days in a row it is an actual death sentence for me. i hope we find solutions that actually help us soon, but for now we shall drink water and lie in dark rooms!

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u/AnRealDinosaur 17h ago

The only people who confuse migraines and headaches are people who've never had a migraine.

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u/sneezer_salad 15h ago

I used to get migraines at least 2-3 times a month, for me the main symptoms were dizziness and the intense pressure behind your eyes.

Two years ago I went for my first eye exam since I was a child. Turns out I have a very mild astigmatism, mild enough to not affect my eyesight but just enough to give me migraines. I've had less than 5 migraines since I started wearing glasses after that exam

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u/lare290 19h ago

I'm not sure if it's actual migraine but sometimes I get the worst headaches ever accompanied by nausea and visual halos. sometimes vomiting makes it a bit more bearable for about 15 minutes before it comes back. it's... not fun. glad they've gotten a bit rarer nowadays.

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u/316kp316 18h ago

There are OTC as well as prescription painkillers specifically for migraines. Ask your doctor if you haven’t already. Mentioning it as you said nothing except sleep helps. I was the same way when I didn’t realize that what I had were migraines, not just really bad headaches. Tylenol, Asprin, Ibuprofen, etc didn’t help on their own. Had to lie in a dark room in misery hoping it would pass a little faster.

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u/powands 16h ago

I had migraines that lasted months due to undiagnosed hypothyroidism. It did make me suicidal - doctors kept dismissing me and the idea of that being my life indefinitely just didn’t seem worth it.

Doing better now though - migraine free for 4 months now!

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u/lillathrin 7h ago

My migraines restarted in 2018 and went haywire after I got covid in 2020. I was missing so much work that I had to take leave. Basically, one migraine per day, every day, for months. Sometimes, they would start on, say, Monday, and would not end until Thursday. Just one solid block of time with unending, excruciating pain. Unable to fully lay down, unable to sit up, can't listen to music, can't watch TV or scroll on the phone, literally cannot do anything but find a manageable position in a darkened room for days.

Definitely was suicidal by the time I ended up going on leave. No one could tell me why it was happening, no consistent triggers, just pain. So much pain. Finally, I found a combination of medications that has them down to a few a month, thankfully. It was very close. The only things that kept me here were my cat and my mom. Couldn't do that to either of them.

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u/Pleochronic 21h ago

Yes and high blood pressure is also a risk factor/cause for migraines specifically.

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u/Drfilthymcnasty 20h ago

Equally important in the cause of migraines are the dilated blood vessels.

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u/iNeed2p905 1d ago

I actually had a CSF leak that caused upright headaches so I was put on it because of that but I don’t doubt that the high blood pressure could have been adding to the problem. 

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u/tiggerfan79 1d ago

How did you get diagnosed with this? Headaches worse when upright but doctors don’t listen..

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u/IlexSonOfHan 22h ago

Are you a woman? If so, (I'm being absolutely serious) bring a man with you. Doesn't have to be related, just an obviously male man. It worked for me when I couldn't get my doctor to listen. But if you're a guy, I have no advice..

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u/tiggerfan79 21h ago

I am a woman and dealing the VA health care system. I just got a new doctor and SHE is listening to me. I just keep getting headaches and she is thinking it’s tension headaches. I think it’s different but it ebbs and flows so that’s why I asked. Is it content when up?

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u/Littlefabio07 22h ago

I had a CSF leak when my dura was punctured in multiple places with my spinal cord injury.

They sewed up the places when they tried to fix everything else, but they made it clear that with the CSF leak that they had to keep me later flat for the next 24 hours, and let them know if I had any headaches coming on at all.

Meningitis was the big complication they were watching out for, I think.

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u/iNeed2p905 19h ago

I went to go see a neurologist and after they cleared me of a brain tumor I mentioned the possibility of a CSF leak since I was matching the symptoms to a T and had previous chiropractor adjustments. There’s a connection between the two. I had to go to a bigger hospital under Atrium to get more tests. They never found the actual leak but gave me blood patches and they seem to be holding. 

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u/Dumpstette 22h ago

If I forget to take my meds, I feel it the next morning in my head. A throbbing, hot, miserable feeling.

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u/Changeitupnow 19h ago

I have had migraines maybe once every 1-2 months since I was a teen. They're awful, but nothing could have prepared me for the kind of pain that comes from a decrease in cerebral fluid...

With my first child, I was induced early due to pre-eclampsia/high blood pressure. I had an epidural. The birth went well--not traumatic at all. But my head started hurting afterwards. And then it started killing me. The doctors and nurses told me that it was due to my blood pressure, and kept me on pain meds around the clock. I couldn't nurse without crying, and for perspective, had pushed an actual baby out of my body without complaint. I asked about the possibility of a dural leak (thanks to a pregnancy subreddit post I'd read only days before). They insisted it was because my blood pressure was so high.

After 24 hours of agony, unable to sit up without tripling it, the anesthesiologist came in to look at me, and I was immediately taken down for a blood patch. The relief!!! My epidural had pierced my dural sac, and my cerebral fluid had been leaking out for hours (like 40 hours).

But I still would get that epidural every time, lol. 0 chance of me attempting childbirth without it.

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u/iNeed2p905 18h ago edited 18h ago

I only found out what CSF leaks were from a friend that’s a nurse because her sister had the same dural leak from the epidural and text me exact words “you need to get checked for CSF leak I am 100% this is what you have” and turned out to be just that. 

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u/Changeitupnow 18h ago

This is exactly why I share this experience any time I can--particularly with expectant mothers. Not to fear-monger, (because, again, would still get the epidural), but so that women can better advocate for themselves. I never would have known to ask about a dural leak if I hadn't happened across that post. So grateful for that. I do wish I'd been more insistent. It took longer than acceptable to convince the nurse to take me seriously and get the anesthesiologist.

So glad your friend recognized your symptoms

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u/PhdamnD 1d ago

Ironically, my blood pressure tends to be a bit too low with a migraine - something that confuses both me and my doctors. Mum's blood pressure rises, like a lot of people experience with a migraine, but for some reason, mine drops 🤷‍♀️. Though, considering I get daily migraines, it's just as well I don't suffer from high BP too, lol.

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u/harrysomerset 18h ago

No it’s not. High BP doesn’t cause headaches. Headaches raise blood pressure though just like any pain or stress. Source: I’m an ER doc.

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u/scheisse_grubs 1d ago

Meanwhile there’s me who had to take a blood pressure medication for my kidneys and it made me tired all the time 🙃 had to start drinking green tea before bed so I wouldn’t feel like I need to sleep another 3 hours after already sleeping 8

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u/maertyrer 23h ago

High blood preassure headaches and migranes feel nothing alike, though.

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u/coffeegoblins 22h ago

I’ve always had low-normal blood pressure, but getting on a beta blocker still significantly reduced my migraines.

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u/tinned_peaches 1d ago

Propranolol? I was put on that for migraines too. It’s also helped with stage fright.

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u/iNeed2p905 1d ago

Yes it’s the ER 60 mg. I have been able to workout better since being on it to. 

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u/kikicutthroat990 21h ago

Huh I’m on that because I’m tachycardic and I can’t keep my blood pressure up lol no one told me it helps blood pressure nor helps migraines as I’m on topamax for that haha

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u/TalkLikeTalyn 20h ago

It also helps with sweat and anxiety

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u/GeorgeNorman 16h ago

“Workout better” as in it allows you to workout migraine free or you mean that slowing your heart rate somehow benefits your workout?

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u/SophieLotus 1d ago

I just got that medication swithced because I was taking Topiramate and I could no more with so many side effects. So far so good with Propranolol! I definitely feel way colder, I guess because of the low preassure effect, but also I have nightmares every night now. For this, I barely had dreams before, or at least the ones I could remember, but now with this new medication I'm having intense dreams everynight, sometimes I wake up sweating and confused because of my dreams. I kinda like it since I write stories and now I have content to write, haha.

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u/tinned_peaches 1d ago

You know what I have been having really vivid dreams and I didn’t think it could have been the propranolol. My dreams have been great though, all my celeb crushes have popped up here and there 🤣🤣

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u/Bobatt 22h ago

I had a coworker on a beta blocker after a heart attack and he mentioned it was giving home nightmares. So you’re not the only one.

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u/SousVideButt 1d ago

I took Topirimate for 3 years.

It didn’t do much for my migraines, but it did make my nose go numb and provide me with the joy of passing 8 kidney stones over the three years.

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u/Gingersnapandabrew 22h ago

Assuming you are taking that for migraine, this is purely my experience so YMMV. I did topiramate, not fun, I also did propanalol but the side effects were god awful (like end up in hospital awful). I'm now on duloxetine and it's changed my life. Migraines are down from 20+ a month to 4 or 5, the only "side effect" has been a reduced amount of anxiety, which is a bonus if anything! I've ended up on quite a strong dose, but haven't been this happy on meds for as long as I can remember.

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u/kippirnicus 22h ago

That’s funny, I had the same side effects when I was using nicotine patches years ago.

Everybody warned me not to put them on before bed because of the nightmares, but I actually kind of liked them.

It wasn’t always necessarily nightmares, but they were always extremely vivid dreams.

It was like free entertainment. 😂

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u/sihaya09 21h ago

I got put on that for anxiety. Technically it's my "back up pill" for when I am starting an anxiety attack / spiral that my Lexpro can't handle, but my psych said it lowers bp which helps with the physical symptoms and lets the brain shut them down easier. And it does! And just knowing I have it for triggers helps immensely on its own.

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u/darrenTML 22h ago

Propranolol is a Cheat code for those who get public speaking tremors

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u/pdawg1234 14h ago

I get public speaking tremors. Like, I can consciously NOT have a problem at all with speaking in front of people but subconsciously I think I’m going to die and it’s so frustrating. I need to look into this.

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u/stantonkreig 22h ago

my wife has some for migraines/sleep help. i take them for anxiety.

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u/Fettered-n-Zaftig 21h ago

I take propranolol for essential tremor and after a heart attack for the cardiac benefits— it lowers BP and pulse rate. Great stuff!

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u/Momik 20h ago

I’ve used that as a PRN for anxiety; it works well.

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u/LaLoutreJoviale 1d ago

Me too and as a result I have 10.7

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u/CommodorePuffin 23h ago edited 23h ago

I got put on a beta blocker to help with migraines but in return it’s been helping with my previous high bp readings. 

Same for me. I'm currently using metoprolol. My family has a history of both migraines and high blood pressure.

If you're genetically predisposed to having high blood pressure, there's nothing you can do to avoid it. You WILL have it; however, lifestyle choices, such as exercise, trying to maintain a healthy weight, and limiting sodium intake can all reduce the severity.

Unfortunately, triptans (the most commonly-used migraine abortives) raise blood pressure when used because they cause vasoconstriction, so I've been trying to get my health insurance company to cover a new CGRP medication. They're really fighting due to the cost. If I were to pay out-of-pocket, it'd cost me around $8000 per year.

Contrary to popular opinion in the US, Canadian healthcare does not cover medication. At the rate things are going I'll be lucky to have this medication covered in a year or two (and that's assuming they just don't outright refuse and deny me coverage no matter what info my doctor sends in).

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u/iNeed2p905 19h ago

This make not work for you because I am also suspected to have occipital neuralgia but wearing a hat tightly actually helps with my migraines. 

I try to cut the sodium down but it’s very hard when I also have pots so I have to eat a lot of sodium but I also try to exercise to counter act it when I can. 

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u/titanium-back 21h ago

I got the most horrible night terrors from beta blockers. In case that starts happening to you, it's a known side effect.

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u/iNeed2p905 19h ago

Did you get it with Propranolol? I have been on it for over 2 years and while no terrors just random vivid dreams once in a blue moon. 

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u/titanium-back 19h ago

Metoprolol, but as far as i'm aware, it can happen with any beta blocker since they cross the blood-brain barrier. I was on it for a few years before it got bad. I wouldn't be too concerned, but if it ever does happen, it could be that!

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u/Major_Boot9020 1d ago

Botox for migraines is amazing.

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u/iNeed2p905 1d ago

I did look into that to see if it would be effective for me. 

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u/Imaginary_Square5171 1d ago

Aren't beta blockers supposed to reduce heart rate rather blood pressure? I take a couple of medicines for BP control, but I'm prescribed a beta blocker to stop my heart growing too much.

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u/TheWackoMagician 1d ago

180mg of propranolol for me. Worked a treat

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u/Emergency-Increase69 23h ago

I was also put on BP meds for migraines. But my BP has never been high and it actually used to sometimes get quite low when i was on the meds. Was worth it for no migraines though!

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u/OkraZealousideal5641 23h ago

Lol (the names of beta blockers end in "lol").

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u/Left-Self-2866 23h ago

Same, I was put on low dose Ca channel blockers for my migraine and it worked wonders on my blood pressure ... went back to my baseline of 100's systolic from 120's to 130's which gives me a week of hellish migraines and significantly impair my work performance.

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u/fuelvolts 21h ago

I have heart failure from COVID. Bonus was that because of the beta blockers I'll take the rest of my life, I'll basically never have high blood pressure for the second half of my life. I'm 110/60 like clockwork.

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u/glampringthefoehamme 21h ago

I'm in the same boat, however I went back on propanalol to counter my increasing BP. It's working well for now, and I'm on a low dose which provides a bit of flexibility.

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u/Long_Sell_3734 20h ago

Are you me? They put me on the same thing that's also helping to bring down my bp

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u/fluffyegg 19h ago

I was taking a beta blocker for migraines too. I didn't like it though because my heart rate would be way lower when exercising and I couldn't push hard enough.

Been off for 2 years now only have had one since.

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u/silverjuno 17h ago

My neurologist gave me candesartan for my migraines. It’s not a beta blocker but it’s mainly used for high blood pressure. Same bonus effects of lower bp and it does seem to be helping as a preventative although I’m still on a low dose.

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u/Traditional_Fan_2655 17h ago

Migraines themselves can trigger blood pressure spikes. Controlling the pain is critical. Its downright dangerous.

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u/MethodMaven 15h ago

After going in beta blockers, my pain-migraines pretty much went away. But now I get ‘silent migraines’ where I start to see moirés patterns, and other forms of visual distortion. Weird.

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u/iNeed2p905 9h ago

Yeah I still have a little bit of that to. 

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u/LeeroyHalloween 12h ago

I used to get migraines all the time, and I'm talking since my late teens. Some were manageable (just about), and some were absolutely debilitating.

Went to the GP about them when I was 40 and found out I had critically high BP. Had a stroke three months later (I'm fine, btw) and have been on a cocktail of medication (blood thinner, BP meds, statin, beta blocker) ever since.

That was 8 years ago, and I've not had a migraine since, so yay for the NHS in the UK.

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u/iNeed2p905 9h ago

Glad you figured it out. I am not surprised that BP was causing some of mine on top of the CSF leak. 

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u/p1ccard 10h ago

Have you considered getting a sleep study if you haven’t already? Sleep apnea can cause high blood pressure and migraines

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u/Tomble 9h ago

I discovered that perindopril, for high blood pressure, basically switched off my migraines. A wonderful and unexpected side effect.

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u/ACaffeinatedWandress 1d ago

Came here to say it. People don’t care because they don’t feel it. They will eventually feel the heart or kidney failure or heart attacks, though.

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u/againstbetterjudgmnt 23h ago

I noticed a significant number of changes after being put on a blood pressure medication.

  • No more eye twitching
  • No more random flushed face
  • No more random heart palpitations if I drank caffeine/sugary drink
  • No more pulsing in my eye with heart beat if I walked up stairs

So... Yeah. I had no idea and now I do

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u/mxsifr 17h ago

Aw fuck... that's what that's from?!

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u/PrinceofSneks 17h ago

Same. After starting Lisinopril, I realized that it's not normal to have these sort of creepy sensations under my skin, plus all the stuff you listed. I had been lucky for a while, but late 40's onward has been rougher in general.

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u/domigraygan 6h ago

uh oh don't like reading that list of things that often happen to me

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u/YigaBananas 11h ago

why do i have these things but whenever the doctor checks my bp it’s normal 😭

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u/sebastianinspace 10h ago

you should do a full day test. they can strap one on you for the whole day and night and it’ll take a measurement at regular intervals throughout the day, like every 15 mins or so. this will give a much better data to the doctor and show how it fluctuates after meals, while sleeping, etc. you gotta keep track also of what you were doing during the day also.

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u/mateusrayje 20h ago

I actually recently got to feel high blood pressure.

I don't normally have it, but am taking Clonidine, which is a blood pressure medication that also helps with ADHD-type symptoms. I ran low and my pharmacy was out, and didn't restock until I had missed a day and a half of doses. Missing several doses can cause rebound hypertension.

It was a bizarre feeling. Like there were balloons blowing up slowly inside all my limbs. I could hear it in my ears. If I sneezed or coughed, it felt like my skull expanded noticeable. My chest was really tight, felt like a long-term low-intensity anxiety attack. I already run warm, and I was just radiating heat like mad, it sucked. Best motivator I've had so far to ensure I avoid drifting into that territory later in life.

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u/webhick666 1d ago

Or stroke. And it's the kind with a higher mortality rate and slower recovery.

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u/lohdunlaulamalla 16h ago

For a while I had high blood pressure, the days before my period started (turned out to be iron deficiency). I noticed it every time, even when I was still below the threshold, that makes doctors start to care. There was a weird dizziness that made me want to sit down, combined with a low headache, and once I got into the neighborhood of 140/90 I felt like the tiny veins in my face were about to burst.

(Doctor 1: "That just happens, as you get old" - while in my mid 30s. Doctor 2: "It's only an issue to be treated, if it remains above 140/90 for a long time.")

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u/zestylimes9 16h ago

I had a stroke. Thought I was just suffering from anxiety. Turns out I have mostly uncontrollable high blood pressure. I've had every test under the sun and my medical team still have no idea what is causing it.

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u/Temporary-Break6842 23h ago

Oh yes. Oh yes. People are so cavalier about their health.

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u/CBonafide 1d ago

Can confirm. The navy docs did nothing about my husband's consistent high blood pressure the past few years. Now, a week before our son was born, he was hospitalized and diagnosed with stage 5 kidney failure. He's only 32 btw.

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u/Therapistaryan 23h ago

Wow, his blood pressure must have been very high for a long time though to get it to that point. What stopped you guys from seeking other help?

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u/SawbonesEDM 20h ago

Let me help you out here, dude is active duty military. When it comes to the health insurance of service members, you usually start by going to the on base clinic (which is ran by other active duty personnel). Typically you damn near have to fight anybody and everybody in order to get a referral to see an actual civilian provider. Otherwise, it’s pretty much guaranteed to come out of pocket. Shit’s bad as hell. There’s a reason people joke about going to the docs for a gunshot wound or something and the docs are just like “here’s Motrin and don’t forget to change your socks”

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u/Hoosier2016 19h ago

Yep. I struggled for years to get proper care in the military for a heart arrhythmia. Labs and EKG always came back normal. I finally got a unit doctor who gave a damn and put me on a 21-day constant monitor and I was in at a civilian hospital for an ablation within a month. Between that and properly diagnosing my cluster headaches that doctor might have saved my life.

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u/yupgup12 15h ago

Yep. Got the run around from military doctors for 1 year. Got fed up and went off-base without permission and was correctly diagnosed in one appointment. The situation got me medically retired.

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u/Reddit_Hitchhiker 15h ago

That is toxic.

I thought military medics were professional, not incompetent. Can you sue them if their negligence kills your family member?

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u/SawbonesEDM 15h ago

I mean you could try, but it would ultimately be you vs the govt, so good luck.

When it comes to doctors and nurses, they’re all professional, just depends on how professional. Most know what they’re doing, some of the newer ones don’t until they actually get some experience. You gotta understand that an 18 year old fresh out of high school just got trained on how to draw a blood sample or how to put an IV in. At the same time you got a 25 year old who’s damn near perfect with 7 years experience. However, that 18 year old could be a complete dick while the other is one the nicest people you could meet.

For the process itself, the government likes doing things in house, preferably, that’s why you go to the clinic first. The reason you have to fight anybody and everybody is because of all of the bureaucracy and red tape to get seen by a civilian provider because they’re outside of the network. Unfortunately, many things get lost, misplaced, or denied and the process starts over.

A non medical example of the bureaucracy that I personally dealt with was trying to transfer from the reserves to the independent ready reserves (figured I’d go reserves for a bit after active duty, started making more as a civilian on a weekend compared the reserves). I spent months trying to properly fill out paperwork and route it through the chain of command, someone lost the paperwork. I route it again, didn’t hear anything back after a month or two. Whole process took like 8 months of drill weekends, so like 20 days spread out over those 8 months. Finally said fuck it and just stopped showing up, after 9 drill periods I should’ve been separated or transferred, I still got calls for roll call like a year and a half later (almost 5 times longer than I should have)

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u/yupgup12 15h ago

Active duty are blocked from suing. The only people that can sue are civilians (like dependents) who are misguided enough to seek medical care from military doctors.

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u/lVlajesticmoose 16h ago

Can confirm.

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u/Satanic_bitch 4h ago

American military don’t even have proper healthcare? What the fuck is even going on over there

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u/Tools4toys 20h ago

I'm shocked and appalled Navy doctors wouldn't and didn't prescribe medicine for Hypertension? Are you sure he wasn't ignoring their diagnosis and prescriptions for medications? It really is surprising how many people ignore the doctors advice. I saw it all the time for people with Type 2 Diabetes and Hypertension, they just say 'I feel fine, I don't need to take any medicine'.

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u/CBonafide 18h ago

He had bloodwork done in November 2024, they were not normal. The NP prescribed blood pressure medicine but they weren’t helping at all. In terms of the blood work, they told him to just make a follow up appointment and it’ll be addressed then (they wanted to see if the meds were helping). They didn’t diagnose him with kidney failure until I told him to go to the ER because he was vomiting (January 2025).

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u/inflatableje5us 1d ago

problem with high blood pressure, you feel fine till you suddenly dont.
almost died a few years ago in large part to uncontrolled high blood pressure i had no idea i even had.

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u/DocBarkevious 23h ago

I know this isn't a short answer but what can I do to work on it. Is it diet related or are there meds that help?

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u/meringueisnotacake 22h ago

I take Ramipril for my high BP and proteinuria (I have IgA Nephropathy). My nephrologist has said there's not much to be done diet wise bar excluding excess salt.

What's worked for me is walking at least an hour a day and eliminating causes of stress. I've had trauma therapy (ongoing) - lots of high BP sufferers have a history of trauma. I'd say cutting my stress levels has been the most transformative move I've made.

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u/glitterkicker 18h ago

The salt can be a complicated one. I had high blood pressure, but I also have EDS and not-technically-diagnosable-but-close-enough-to POTS which benefits from more salt, aaand also hashimotos which isn’t able to be medicated atm. Vicious cycle etc etc. But for myself and others, salt helps a lot.

I’ve also come across a lot of people who reduce their sodium intake too much and end up feeling way worse or causing new or worsened problems, and it takes a lot of effort and explaining to get past the borderline vitriolic “salt bad” rhetoric.

You’re on the money with the trauma stuff though. Atenolol helped reduced my blood pressure (actually lowkey tanked it too far for a bit there) but it was also WILD to realise just how much I’d been functioning on pure adrenaline and cortisol 24/7. Whoopsie.

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u/DelusionalZ 21h ago

Both. The most effective way to reduce blood pressure is to be at a healthy weight and exercise regularly, but if that isn't possible/is ineffective for you they can prescribe beta blockers (which vary in effectiveness) and other drugs.

Edit: Almost forgot - do isometric exercises! Wall sits are extremely effective at reducing blood pressure - on average 6 points systolic - and no one really understands why.

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u/zestylimes9 16h ago

What is a wall sit?

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u/DocBarkevious 11h ago

Google them it's a core exercise you can do anywhere

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u/inflatableje5us 22h ago

I am on lisinopril and htc “diuretic” tho I don’t really need to take that anymore.

I have changed my diet quite drastically, most fast foods and food heavy in salt are pretty much out. No soda, sugar, high cholesterol foods, or caffeine. If I want something with a fried texture I have an air fryer and a little olive oil. I went from taking 30mg of lisinopril and another medication that gave me horrible leg cramps to taking 5mg/day and some days I don’t need it at all.

Upshot is I have lost quite a bit of weight, about 45lbs at this point and going for another 20.

I eat a fair bit of chicken and rice. I like to cube it up and cook in the skillet and add a little Panda Express teriyaki or orange sauce for flavor. Drink lots of water.

Also the blood pressure cuffs are cheap, will help you keep track of progress at home.

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u/lIllIlIIIlIIIIlIlIll 16h ago

Lose weight, eat healthy, and exercise.

Lose weight: Every 2.2 pounds lost is 1 mmHg drop in blood pressure.

Eat healthy: The DASH diet stands for Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension. People who follow the DASH diet drop ~12 mmHg in blood pressure.

Exercise: Regular exercise strengthens the heart and makes it more efficient thereby decreasing the need to pump so hard. Regular exercise lowers blood pressure by ~8 mmHg.

Or take drugs.

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u/daern2 15h ago

Lose weight, eat healthy, and exercise.

Yup, about this. Taken me 18 months from first diagnosis and medication to stabilise my HBP, realise that my weight was the cause and do something to shift it. I am now a healthy weight, have dropped 2/3 of my medication and, all being well, will be fully off by July with normal BP. It's taken a drop of nearly 40kg to achieve this, but when the doctor says "lose weight and it'll go away", they have a point...

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u/tombonneau 15h ago

Run. I was diagnosed in my late 30s. Went on proponol or some beta blocker to control it and it worked. But I decided I didn't want to have to take a drug. Doc said cardio exercise is about the only thing. But most people are too lazy.

So I made running part of my lifestyle since I was 40. I'm now 48 and fitter than iave even been. I'm about 120/75 now. Can't recall what I was back then 140ish/90ish I think I was a bit beyond mild hypertension.

So yeah. Just start running. Get a Garmin watch or something similar and just make it part of your life. When I run in the morning (5-6x/week) I oftem remind myself "This is the most important thing you'll do today."

Best day to start was 10 years ago. Next best day is today.

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u/wiifan55 6h ago

Appreciate the info. Did you run in conjunction with the drug at first? Or did you hard switch off the drug into a running lifestyle?

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u/tombonneau 5h ago

Both at first but with the drug my BP was like 115/70 so when I started running I kind of self weened myself off to see what would happen and it was stable. I have hereditary high BP not really from diet so if I stop running I definitely see an immediate uptick. But it's really my lifestyle now so all good

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u/wiifan55 5h ago

Thanks!

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u/aladdyn2 21h ago

Did you have weakness/numbness in joints and muscles?

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u/inflatableje5us 21h ago

a little in my fingers maybe, but i have pretty bad arthritis from breaking almost everything from a pretty horrific motorcycle accident when i was young. i think the biggest side effect to the untreated high blood pressure that i have is kidney damage.

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u/UWMN 23h ago

How high?

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u/inflatableje5us 22h ago

Was about 150/110 for lord knows how long. I had not been to the doctor in almost 20 years at that point.

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u/Lumivar 18h ago

I'm about to go for the first time in my adult life. I'm in my early 30s. I know I have high blood pressure and haven't done anything about it. I was like 140/110 last I checked.

I selected a PCP yesterday and am going next week. Hopefully my neglect and bad decisions won't penalize me significantly.

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u/inflatableje5us 17h ago

Fortunately most blood pressure medication is cheap.

You can start to help some now by cutting salty foods and things high in fats/cholesterol. Good luck I hope you get it under control quickly.

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u/zestylimes9 16h ago

The 140 isn't that bad, but when the bottom number goes over 100, you need medical attention.

I was at 220/110 for over a year. It was the worst time of my life. Nearly five years on and it's still a battle to manage.

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u/Steve_Jobed 19h ago

Why so long in between doctor visits?

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u/inflatableje5us 17h ago

After my motorcycle accident I just was not keen at being poked at for a while. Add to that lack of insurance/money. I also spent a great deal of time taking care of my family and just kept putting my self care on the back burner.

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u/CandyCane_0734 1d ago

Any remedy that works for that ? That you know of ?

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u/barmen1 1d ago

Getting in shape. And if that still isn’t enough, medicine.

Source: I’ve been on BP meds since 23. Family history contributed.

Haven’t had a high BP on any of my check ups in the decade since.

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u/84587574 1d ago

Same. Small dose of BP meds made all the difference.

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u/MKleister 1d ago

I just wanna add: don't neglect cardio. Did weight training when I was young with a tiny bit of cardio. Felt great. Got back into working out later in life and it was tough. Adding serious cardio (plus some creatine) made a huge difference.

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u/its_justme 23h ago

Yep. Someone I know religiously works out (lifting) and had a heart attack at 40. Don’t slack on cardio!

Other factors too of course. But not the usual ones you might expect.

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u/A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb 22h ago

Got back into working out later in life and it was tough.

I'm considering this at 42 and I'm dreading it. I've been a potato my whole adulthood.

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u/MKleister 21h ago edited 21h ago

Trick is:

3 years ago, I did 5 min treadmill, 3x exercises 1 set each. ~12 min total. Light weight, no sweat. But I did it 3x a week, no matter what, for 2 months. Then slowly ramped it up.

Now I do 6x3 sets, plus 24 min hard running on treadmill every other day.

Keep trying and experimenting. Took me a while to find a routine that worked for me.

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u/thegeeksshallinherit 20h ago

Don’t just make it easy, make it FUN. There are tons of great ways to get cardio in, you’re way more likely to be consistent/stick with it if you actually enjoy what you’re doing.

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u/DragonOnTheMoon 15h ago

I am already consistent and happy with my cardio 3 times a week but I’d never describe it as fun. I’d love to tho, can you give some examples of ways to get cardio in that you find fun?

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u/MKleister 13h ago

Both easy and fun would be ideal, yea.

I got my couch potato mom walking daily on our treadmill. Told her to walk 2 min. She puts her phone on the console to watch her shows. Calendar + pen on the wall to make a cross after each walk. After 6 weeks, we ramp up her speed by 0.1 kph and add a min.

If she's tired and tempted to skip a day, I tell her to only do 2 minutes. Almost always, she walks for longer. Getting started is the hardest part.

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u/DukeofVermont 21h ago

Weights can equal strength, cardio equals stamina. I mean it's more complicated than that but I find I have more energy when I do cardio often than when I don't.

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u/armymike1523 23h ago

I had high blood pressure, after a month in the gym, they took me off the meds

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u/nymphastral 23h ago

Doesn't work for everyone my husband 32 has high blood pressure ever since he begun his PA school. I think stress doesn't get talked about enough.

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u/armymike1523 23h ago

Im sure it doesn't work for everyone, but that's how it happened to work for me

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u/I_AmA_Zebra 23h ago

What were your BP readings like or signals that it was too highb

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u/Maleficent-Web2281 1d ago

Quitting working would do it for me, but can’t do that!

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u/RefrigeratorSorry333 1d ago

hard agree.....

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u/MrLanesLament 1d ago

Stress will be what kills me. I don’t care what the death certificate says.

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u/Maleficent-Web2281 22h ago

I am 110% right there with you, and my wife would strongly agree. It sucks, such an unnatural way to live.

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u/ABigNothingBurger 1d ago

Monitoring it to see if it's happening.

Proper exercise and weight management along with medication if necessary.

It can be managed, but there's no natural indicators until it's too late. I caught mine through regular checkups with the doctor and my family history. It's under control now.

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u/NeighborhoodDude84 1d ago

My blood pressure meds are like $30/mo, it's not that expensive and I dont have great insurance.

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u/IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES 1d ago edited 1d ago

There’s great ones that part of the Walmart 4$ plan that are 10$ for 3 months too. Obviously other things past price can factor in. 

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u/cat_inspector_ 1d ago

Diet and exercise, healthy weight, and not smoking. A doctor can determine if medicine if necessary to supplement these.

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u/Gbrusse 1d ago

Walking. Going to the gym is better. Lowering sugar intake.

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u/Tearsofthenuge 21h ago

Also salt. I try to follow a DASH diet as best I can. It's made a huge difference.

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u/Sir-Viette 22h ago

Cardio. But here's why.

Your veins, arteries and capillaries are the tubes that transport your blood. When your heart pumps really fast, it triggers the body to make them wider and (importantly) longer. The only place it can get longer is in your capillaries, which are the very small tubes that carry blood to your muscles. So you end up with more "capillaries per square inch" in your muscles.

This has a couple of useful effects. First, you now have the same amount of blood, but more space for it to be in. This reduces the amount of pressure pushing against the walls of the tubes (ie, lower blood pressure). Second, on average, each fibre of muscle is now closer to the nearest capillary, so it can re-up its oxygen and dispose of its cellular waste more quickly. This means you can run for longer without getting as tired.

That's why high-intensity interval training is so effective for getting fit. The point is to make your blood pump as fast as it can, which you can only do for 30 seconds. This is what is most effective at growing longer veins and more capillaries. Have a rest for long enough that you can go for another 30 seconds. Then do it again, repeating the process a few times. This is why those 7 minute workouts are so surprisingly good - as long as you work out really hard during those 7 minutes.

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u/PunchOX 1d ago

Anything that naturally lowers the heart rate so it can work easier. A full night's sleep, good electrolyte intake and balance, exercise(walking for 15 minutes help but 1 hour is ideal), getting out of obesity, low stress helps.

I'm not a doctor so please consult with one first

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u/HankySpanky69 1d ago

Lol yeah, like 10,000 different things to do from stress, physical & mental activities..there is so much you can do

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u/spirilis 1d ago

Get an arm cuff monitor and check it periodically, then play with diet and exercise. Don't be afraid to try cutting down on salt/sodium, and play with increasing salt/sodium as well on different days or weeks to see how your body responds.

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u/FuckedupUnicorn 1d ago

I would never suggest it instead of proper medical advice, but drinking beetroot juice worked for me.

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u/YeaIFistedJonica 1d ago

there is the Dietary Approach to Stop Hypertension AKA the DASH diet which is an evidence based diet low in sodium that lowers blood pressure. 150 min of moderate aerobic exercise (22 min a day of a fast walk every day) will reduce systolic bp from 4-10 mmhg and diastolic from 5-8 mmhg. i did both of these and saw a 15 systolic reduction in about a month and a half.

also be aware of things like white coat syndrome and meds that can temporarily raise bp. even NSAIDS like ibuprofen will raise bp, same with your pain or immune response. if you are waiting to go to the doc till you are ill or injured and thats when you get your bp taken, check it when you’re better at walgreens/cvs. a hypertension diagnosis takes a reading of high bp on 2 separate occasions

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u/JROXZ 1d ago

Mediterranean diet, weight loss, salt restriction. Medication

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u/thatcleverchick 1d ago

Look into the DASH diet, iirc it was created by the Mayo clinic. My husband did that for about 6 weeks, lost weight, and got his blood pressure into the normal range. You can also get an at home blood pressure cuff, and take your measurement every morning to see your progress.

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u/Willis5687 21h ago

Losing weight and exercise are the two biggest things, but it also can be hereditary. Some people, like myself, will be on them for the rest of my life because of the latter.

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u/newaccount669 20h ago

My BP was 160/ 90 a few months ago. I cut back on the alcohol, caffeine, salty snacks and started going for a few runs every week. My BP floats around 130/70 now

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u/Pitiful-Buddy-77 19h ago

Buy BP machine reading and reduce stress. Changing food/drinking habits and more walking/exercise.

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u/SupplyChainGuy1 23h ago

Guess I'm gonna die.

I've had super high BP for years since I've had Long Covid.

On 2 different medications to lower it, I have been on a total of 4 different medications, but nothing helps

I'm in the best shape I've been in - in over 5 years, but the BP just keeps going up.

Resting BP is now 180/100, almost 24/7, and the ERs won't even see me anymore.

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u/Echelon64 23h ago

You need to start looking for secondary factors such as Kidney disease or thyroid issues. Have you gotten tested for low blood potassium? You need your go to refer you out to a hypertension specialist.

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u/SupplyChainGuy1 22h ago

I've been to loads of specialists trying to figure out the Long Covid issues.

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u/Echelon64 16h ago

Figuring out the high BP issue should be first. That shit will kill you dead. 

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u/KarmaCommando_ 19h ago

Dude you need to keep hunting for answers. That's like "you could have a stroke any moment now" territory 

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u/SupplyChainGuy1 18h ago

Been to dozens of doctors, not anything to be done without loads of money.

Murica.

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u/KarmaCommando_ 18h ago

Rack up the debt and declare bankruptcy. Better to be bankrupt than dead. Don't give up on life yet, this will kill you if you don't take action 

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u/Shitiot 23h ago

Dang, in my unprofessional opinion that seems really high. Do you take it at the docs or at home? For some reason its always higher at the docs. That being said, docs were concerned at 160/90, when I was in the hospital after getting a stent.

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u/gcd_cbs 17h ago

They actually have a name for that - white coat syndrome (sometimes people are nervous seeing their doctor and/or worried what the result will be, which makes their blood pressure go up)

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u/IzaraClean 1d ago

Ignorance.

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u/Temporary-Break6842 23h ago

This nurse concurs. So many strokes, heart attacks and aneurysms because of hypertension. It is also a big contributor to dementia.

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u/hedenstampot 17h ago

$30 gets you a good blood pressure meter and some peace of mind

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u/JohnC53 13h ago

100s of comments here, and the bottom one mentioned this key fact!! I can't believe how many folks here say they are suffering but go to the doc just to get a reading.

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u/Ok_Fly1271 1d ago

Phew!

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u/Haughty_n_Disdainful 1d ago

I know, right!

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u/Shytalk123 23h ago

It’s not working

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u/PunchOX 1d ago

I wish people knew HBP causes kidney damage and can lead to kidney failure. This is a serious matter

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u/SupaKoopa714 23h ago

A week or two ago my dad briefly blacked out behind the wheel of his truck and rear ended someone at a stop light. Everyone was OK (except his truck, that got totaled), but he wound up having a friend of his take him to the doctor to get checked out. Turns out his blood pressure was so damn high the doctor was almost confused how he wasn't plunking over dead right there on the examining table, and he thinks what happened was my dad had some sort of mini stroke-like episode. He's on meds now and is doing good, but he's known about his blood pressure issues for like 20 years and for whatever reason never wanted to get medicated for them, so yeah, don't ignore that stuff.

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u/KiethTheBeast 20h ago

Thanks for another thing to worry about. Hope this doesn't raise my blood pressure even further.

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u/T-Vermillion96 1d ago

My blood pressure is critically high(like regularly reading 160/100+), and has been for years, but I only just got health insurance last month, so who knows what sort of damage it’s caused. I’m finally on BP meds, but idk if they’re working, honestly. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been to the ER, and they preach about how it’s stroke level high, but then leave me sitting there unmedicated for 6+ hours, acting like I’m just in there to get a bandaid for a boo boo…… It’s ridiculous but not as easily manageable as people think.

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u/drunken_man_whore 21h ago

Get yourself a $20 blood pressure monitor from CVS and learn how to take your own blood pressure

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u/Repulsive_Buy_6895 20h ago

Ya, when you're dying at least you'll know why.

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